Mercedes Vision EQXX

[Mr. Mercedes]

They gotta do something. Electric cars are going to advance at an even faster pace than ICE did. The EQS will be an antique on 18 months at the pace EV tech is going.

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I wonder how adaptable and modular these MB platforms are? Tesla has managed to keep virtually the same car (interior and exterior) on the market for year on year. They have just updated the motors, batteries etc. I doubt MB would be cuaght out with a platform that's redundant in 24-36 months.

 

[Deleted member 57437]

This looks quite good actually.

However, as others have said, MB has a really bad history translating cool concepts to production cars, so better don't get too excited.

Only the 2003 IAA Vision CLS comes to mind as an extremely accurately translated concept. The C219 indeed came very, very close. Other than that, the GLC concept coupe was translated accurately. Other concepts were, at best, "85%" cars (Vision S-Coupe, Vision AMG GT (4))-and far more were very, very distant from the following production versions.

 

[Rolf]

On January 3rd, Mercedes presents the Vision EQXX with world-class efficiency, aerodynamics and a range of 1,000 km.
The length of the Concept EQXX is just under 5m in EQE format.

The battery size should be in the range of 80 kWh.

For a range of 1000 km, the consumption would have to drop to 8 kWh. Single-digit kWh consumption per 100 km is a novelty among electric car drivers.

The Vision EQXX does not make any concessions in terms of design, but thanks to active aerodynamic elements it should still have an optimum Cd value of only 0.17 and undercut the Mercedes EQS (0.20) once again.

The windshield is a little steeper than in the EQS. The greenhouse is narrower above the belt. In addition to the phenomenal drag coefficient, this also ensures a small frontal area.

The wheelhouses are slightly exposed. The wheels on the rear axle are not covered and the track width on the rear axle is therefore not narrower. This also ensures good directional stability.


In addition, it should be a front-wheel drive, since here the recuperation is better with only one driven axle (with a high recuperation on the rear axle this would block). You would have to do without recuperation power with rear-wheel drive. This is probably also due to the fact that the tires will be narrower in order to minimize rolling resistance.

There is an active cooling vents on the front. Normally they are closed for better aerodynamics. If they are opened, the air outlet is on the front hood in front of the A-pillars. The warm air is directed around the A-pillars without turbulence.

Solar modules should be integrated on the roof up to the trunk lid. The peak power is presumably in the range of 200 watt peak.

Further efficiency measures were carried out on the electric motor including peripherals and silicon carbide inverter (SiC). The exact details are not yet known.

The weight should be reduced by around 300 kg compared to an EQS.

The EQXX vision is intended to break the previous limits in the areas of range, efficiency and charging. The experts from the Mercedes Formula 1 team are also working on this.

Parts of these new technologies will then be incorporated into the MB.EA architecture from 2025.

Source - JESMB

 

[Deleted member 57437]

The EQXX is significantly more compact than the EQS, I suspect.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

This could, finally, be a BEV for the likes of me (high annual mileage). If it looks good, can be “fueled” within 10 minutes and has a comfortable drive, I say: why not.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

The EQXX is significantly more compact than the EQS, I suspect.

It must be, looking at those aerodynamic figures. I guess smaller (width) lower, but not necessarily shorter (length).

 

[Yaz]

EQ-CL or SL?

 

[Mick Briesgau]

EQ-CL or SL?

Apparently it’s only a vision. It will not come to a production car as such. Ideas and technology of the EQXX will be found in several future cars.

 

[J.E]

It does look a little bit like the Vision Avatar concept. It's got the same flared wheel arches.

 

[Ozy]

The front is like the Kia EV6

 

[SKY]

Apparently it’s only a vision. It will not come to a production car as such. Ideas and technology of the EQXX will be found in several future cars.

Including design cues? I've been thinking recently about the car brands that make the grille its main design characteristing on the front end. On EVs, those brands are "forced" to use one of those shield grilles like Audi and MB do.

So maybe this concept serves as a preview of how an MB EV would look without a fake grille. AMG One could serve as inspiration.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Including design cues? I've been thinking recently about the car brands that make the grille its main design characteristing on the front end. On EVs, those brands are "forced" to use one of those shield grilles like Audi and MB do.

So maybe this concept serves as a preview of how an MB EV would look without a fake grille. AMG One could serve as inspiration.

Very well possible. Experimental MB/Vision of the past usually had some new design cues for the future.

 

[leylandi]

On Monday 3 January 2022 at 6.00 pm (CET), Mercedes-Benz will unveil the all-electric VISION EQXX in a digital world premiere on the Mercedes me media online platform. The software-defined research prototype is the most efficient vehicle the brand has ever built. It is a statement that underscores not only the innovative strength of Mercedes-Benz, but also its stated aim to “Lead in Electric” and “Lead in Car Software”. Cross-functional development teams brought the VISION EQXX to fruition in record time. Board members Ola Källenius and Markus Schäfer, Chief Design Officer Gorden Wagener and experts from the development teams will describe the pioneering spirit and the exceptional teamwork that made this possible. Follow the world premiere live on https://media.mercedes-benz.com/vision_eqxx and watch it afterwards on-demand. From 5 to 8 January 2022, the VISION EQXX will be the highlight on the Mercedes‑Benz stand at CES 2022 in Las Vegas.

 

[Deleted member 57437]

On Monday 3 January 2022 at 6.00 pm (CET), Mercedes-Benz will unveil the all-electric VISION EQXX in a digital world premiere on the Mercedes me media online platform. The software-defined research prototype is the most efficient vehicle the brand has ever built. It is a statement that underscores not only the innovative strength of Mercedes-Benz, but also its stated aim to “Lead in Electric” and “Lead in Car Software”. Cross-functional development teams brought the VISION EQXX to fruition in record time. Board members Ola Källenius and Markus Schäfer, Chief Design Officer Gorden Wagener and experts from the development teams will describe the pioneering spirit and the exceptional teamwork that made this possible. Follow the world premiere live on https://media.mercedes-benz.com/vision_eqxx and watch it afterwards on-demand. From 5 to 8 January 2022, the VISION EQXX will be the highlight on the Mercedes‑Benz stand at CES 2022 in Las Vegas.

Very, very interesting.

Vision IAA 2015 meets Porsche Taycan ?

 

[dalab]

Novel silhouette but I see unreal that someone fits back there, so I do not know if it really is just a showcase to show range, something different for Mercedes is also welcome the rear lights of the 50's, cool

 

[Deleted member 57437]

Novel silhouette but I see unreal that someone fits back there, so I do not know if it really is just a showcase to show range, something different for Mercedes is also welcome the rear lights of the 50's, cool

Lord knows if this is a prelude to the design of an actual future production automobile. But hey, at least it has real door handles. That could be a sign.

 

[fortuner]

No ways will the rral car look like this just look at the Rear slope thats like a CLS ...no chance of the real deal looking like this its going to be another Vision EQS to Real EQS story sadly

 

[fortuner]

Lead in car software ....is this the multimedia system eg MBUX ?

 

[Rolf]

This car is a reminder of the American cars of the 60's and 70's with their massively long bonnets and boots and smaller cabins.

Maybe the EQXX could have a massive 700ltr boot so then Mercedes could drop the T-wagon as well lol. the boot looks almost as long as the cabin!!

 

[Deleted member 57437]

The 1966 Mercedes-Benz SLX concept car: