Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[leylandi]

Things are getting worse in China.

Mercedes CLA zündet in China nicht?

Mercedes verzeichnet einen Rückgang in China von 38% - der Mercedes CLA EQ zündet in China offenbar noch nicht

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[Design FIRST]

Things are getting worse in China.

Sorry to be a spoilsport for diehard M-B fans. But I see very little chance of Mercedes-Benz rebounding in the Chinese market. Reputation and brand equity in general has been on a treacherously slippery downwards slope. Not only in China. Quite tragic, as M-B's engineering prowess and focus on innovation remains extraordinary. Sadly, those impressive credentials cannot seem to sufficiently dilute some glaringly obvious shortcomings. Those being, for example, design, marketing, management, big picture focus.

 

[Uygar]

Things are getting worse in China.

It’s really sad to see Mercedes like this to be honest.

 

[Design FIRST]

It’s really sad to see Mercedes like this to be honest.

It most certainly is indeed.

 

[Dopebouy]

Things are getting worse in China.

i think it’s time Mercedes left trying to please the chinese.
-Diluted their brand with cheap plastics to stay cheap
-Changed their design language to please the “Big” Chinese market
-Offering small underpowered engined to stay cheap

All that & they still cannot please the chinese, it’s just killing the brand.

it’s time Mercedes cut off the GEELY connection & started focusing on it’s ROOTS:
LUXURY, POWER, DESIGN , RELIABILITY & SAFETY

Mercedes needs to do interior designs that define what a Mercedes is & not some screens to please the ‘Chinese’, they were a Rolls Royce competitor at some point & they now NEED to focus on that.

Mercedes needs to make robust BIG engines again even in the C-class. The E-class not even having a V8 is a bad idea what we’re they thinking? They need to introduce zeV12 to the current S-class because efficiency for who?

They need to also leave the blobby designs that were destined for the ‘Big Chinese Market’. Imagine designing a car for a certain type of market & that market ends up not accepting it, Let’s go back to Bruno Sacco Era of boxy & timeless designs then !

Infact they should put inline6 diesel as a minimum in that new VLE when ICE variant is available.

 

[Design FIRST]

Mercedes May Deepen Ties With China On Future EVs | Carscoops

A report from China claims the next-generation EV platform from Mercedes could use Geely's electronic and electrical architecture

www.carscoops.com

Hardly a surprise.

 

[Design FIRST]

...but...

Watch out BMW and Audi, this new electric Mercedes is rather good… | Auto Express

We get an early taste of the new all-electric Mercedes C-Class from the passenger seat

www.autoexpress.co.uk

...it appears that M-B has gotten an awful lot "RIGHT" in and on this car.

I'll be wishing the brand good fortunes on this car. It looks like it could quite possibly be a winner. FAR better than the MMA CLAs IMHO.

 

[Dopebouy]

Hardly a surprise.

They need to cancel this Shit immediately.

“Cut engineering costs” so more plasticky chinese cars with a Mercedes badge then?

They got YASA for goodness sake they do NOT need GEELY what is wrong with them?

 

[leylandi]

Competition with the i3 will be interesting. It looks like it will have a more robust design. The i3 looks nice, but it feels like a small car.

 

[leylandi]

 

[klier]

It most certainly is indeed.

It's because the CLA is small and the Chinese want big.

 

[Merc1]

So the C EV will be technically a brilliant car and EV but terrible looking. Great.

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[BorkLaser]

C400 4Matic EQ for the price of a mid spec C200d in Germany?

Great i guess.

 

[AndreB]

Sorry to be a spoilsport for diehard M-B fans. But I see very little chance of Mercedes-Benz rebounding in the Chinese market. Reputation and brand equity in general has been on a treacherously slippery downwards slope. Not only in China. Quite tragic, as M-B's engineering prowess and focus on innovation remains extraordinary. Sadly, those impressive credentials cannot seem to sufficiently dilute some glaringly obvious shortcomings. Those being, for example, design, marketing, management, big picture focus.

Entry level Mercedes models aren’t really perceived as luxury in the EV space, yet they still command a significant price premium.

Take the CLA for example, it’s about 20% more expensive than a Model 3, but not meaningfully better. That’s the core issue.

 

[Design FIRST]

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[BorkLaser]

Take the CLA for example, it’s about 20% more expensive than a Model 3, but not meaningfully better. That’s the core issue.

You can buy a MAGA hat for 0,99€ on TEMU.
No need to get a Model 3 anymore.

 

[Design FIRST]

They got YASA for goodness sake they do NOT need GEELY what is wrong with them?

The Geely electronic architecture is more about driver assistence, energy efficiency managment, chassis dynamics that are AI assisted and seamless device integration. YASA is primarily e-motor hardware (extremely impressive e-motor hardware).

 

[Dopebouy]

The Geely electronic architecture is more about driver assistence, energy efficiency managment, chassis dynamics that are AI assisted and seamless device integration. YASA is primarily e-motor hardware (extremely impressive e-motor hardware).

I wonder if they can try convincing YASA to start making their own electric architecture that has a battery. Surely they also know alot about being energy efficient. They have their own MB.OS that contains NVIDIA AI systems that they can link this ‘YASA electric architecture’ to.

It could be quite a working formula really, they can break free from that market since its not working for them.

 

[leylandi]

 

[azeez samara]

it looks good under the wrap hoping that it will look good also once the wrap is removed