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[Uygar]

MB.EA C-Class EQ prototypes caught testing in the Italian alpine region:

Looking good. Those wheels are kinda bad though.

 

[Design FIRST]

It appears that the neo-retro faux radiator front shield is pulled further downwards and well into the apron. This seems to add a bit of an athletic dynamic that significantly benefits the visual vis-a-vis the GLC EQ.

 

[Esp5]

Looking good. Those wheels are kinda bad though.

At least they are new, which did not happen with the GLC EV and the CLA, which only recycled the ones already seen in any Mercedes; it looks quite pregnant in those profile photos.

 

[klier]

it looks quite pregnant in those profile photos.

Looking pregnant with a E class.

Yikes. Those rims are absolutely horrible too, as if borrowed from Renault or something.

 

[Uygar]

At least they are new, which did not happen with the GLC EV and the CLA, which only recycled the ones already seen in any Mercedes; it looks quite pregnant in those profile photos.

I’m pretty sure will see those same multispoke wheels on the C-Class as well. They love to re-use their wheels on every single model .

 

[Serpens]

I never thought this model was going to come out ugly and still don't believe it is. What I'm most concerned is the rear light treatment as I haven't even seen a sketch of it.

 

[Uygar]

I never thought this model was going to come out ugly and still don't believe it is. What I'm most concerned is the rear light treatment as I haven't even seen a sketch of it.

Probably something very similar if not the same as the GLC

 

[Design FIRST]

I never thought this model was going to come out ugly and still don't believe it is. What I'm most concerned is the rear light treatment as I haven't even seen a sketch of it.

I suppose that it is not a bold prediction that the MB.EA C-Class EQ sedan will be an accurate precursor of many of the future MB.EA E-Class EQ sedan's design elements. Of course, the E-Class EQ having a larger footprint with an overall length just exceeding the 5000mm mark. In any case, these new EQ sedans will surely be visualy more attractive than the current EQE/EQS sedans. And maybe the upcoming EQ S-Class sedan will be something very special.

 

[Serpens]

I suppose that it is not a bold prediction that the MB.EA C-Class EQ sedan will be an accurate precursor of many of the future MB.EA E-Class EQ sedan's design elements. Of course, the E-Class EQ having a larger footprint with an overall length just exceeding the 5000mm mark. In any case, these new EQ sedans will surely be visualy more attractive than the current EQE/EQS sedans. And maybe the upcoming EQ S-Class sedan will be something very special.

The electric E-class will have a more formal roofline and will have been designed with the grille in mind from the beginning. So I wouldn't put too much weight on the electric C-class design.

 

[MAJESTIC]

The figures presented on that website are always wrong, arbitrary and unreliable, they do not correspond to the official figures presented by the manufacturers.

So I'm assuming you have the correct numbers...?

 

[Esp5]

I’m surprised the E-Class outsold the other Germans by a lot.

I'm surprised the EQE SUV is close to the iX and the CLE outsells the 4 series.

The figures provided by that site are never reliable, the site is not reliable, the figures seem rather invented, I don't know where they came from, you just have to go and see the official reports of the brands for 2024, they have nothing to do with it.

 

[Esp5]

So I'm assuming you have the correct numbers...?

They're available on the brands' press sites, and not even all of them are there. I'm just saying that that site fails in its research and provides erroneous figures as a result. It's never right and the margin of error is shameful.

 

[Esp5]

I’m surprised the E-Class outsold the other Germans by a lot.

Just one example, "Car Industry Analysis" mentions sales of the 5 Series in 2024 at 169,800 units, and the official reality is:

2024

* The 6 GT was discontinued in 2023 so it doesn't count.

The other figures do not match at all either, with differences of up to tens of thousands, it basically provides false information.

 

[Gor134]

"Car Industry Analysis" mentions sales of the 5 Series in 2024 at 169,800 units

This is what Car Industry Analysis mentions:

ICE 5er Sedan - 169,800
ICE 5er Touring - 19,100
EV i5 Sedan - 37,300
6er - 13,100

Total: 239,300

Essentially a 10k disparity between what BMW reported and what Car Industry Analysis reported. I'm pretty sure that's due to him not reporting the i5 Touring sales figures.

 

[Esp5]

This is what Car Industry Analysis mentions:

ICE 5er Sedan - 169,800
ICE 5er Touring - 19,100
EV i5 Sedan - 37,300
6er - 13,100

Total: 239,300

Essentially a 10k disparity between what BMW reported and what Car Industry Analysis reported. I'm pretty sure that's due to him not reporting the i5 Touring sales figures.

Exactly, their figures are not reliable or accurate, none of them match.

 

[Gor134]

What? I just proved they do match?

Their total units for 5er/6er are at 240k, EXCLUDING the i5 Touring.

Estimating BMW sold 1/3 i5 tourings then that's at 250k just like BMW reported

 

[MAJESTIC]

This is what Car Industry Analysis mentions:

ICE 5er Sedan - 169,800
ICE 5er Touring - 19,100
EV i5 Sedan - 37,300
6er - 13,100

Total: 239,300

Essentially a 10k disparity between what BMW reported and what Car Industry Analysis reported. I'm pretty sure that's due to him not reporting the i5 Touring sales figures.

Thank you very much for this explanation. To reiterate my point, the S-Class proves it is the dominating force in the class. It doesn't rely on weird design gimmicks to mimic more prestigious cars... the 3-pointed star says it all and the customers continue to agree.

 

[Esp5]

What? I just proved they do match?

Their total units for 5er/6er are at 240k, EXCLUDING the i5 Touring.

Estimating BMW sold 1/3 i5 tourings then that's at 250k just like BMW reported

So there are 10,000 5 series tourings (i5's) that do not appear anywhere in car industry analysis, the figures for the X7 appear with almost 4,000 units more than the reality, the i5 sedan does not appear in the figures for the 5 series sedan??, in short the figures are distorted, poorly transmitted and in some cases inflated or upside down.

Thank you very much for this explanation. To reiterate my point, the S-Class proves it is the dominating force in the class. It doesn't rely on weird design gimmicks to mimic more prestigious cars... the 3-pointed star says it all and the customers continue to agree.

It's not the point, but according to those figures from Car Industry Analysis, the 7 Series, including the i7 (as it should be), is above the S-Class by 1,100 units.

But it doesn't matter since they don't match the real figures, you have to look at serious sources.

 

[Gor134]

The 7er/i7 is above S Class if you don't include EQS.

If you include EQS, then the total S-line outsold the 7er/i7 line.

 

[Gor134]

the i5 sedan does not appear in the figures for the 5 series sedan??

No it doesn't.

He clearly distinguishes i5 and 5er separately.