Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[Tuffode]

G60 and the upcoming C Class EV both look terrible, at least the C Class is its' own platform so it's not ruining the ICE version as well.

 

[Design FIRST]

I fundamentally disagree with this.
There are cars that I thought were beautiful the moment I saw them, and they remain beautiful forever. I don't think anyone can look at the 300SL or Pagoda SL or the original 635i or Aston Martin DB9 or the Ferrari 458 Italia and so on, and argue that they were an "acquired taste" that they thought were ugly in the first instance. But all of these cars are enduringly beautiful.

I could argue that these examples transcend the ranks of higher volume manufactured 4 door products. I perhaps should have emphasized that I am referring to more commonplace, even ubiquitous, 4 door automobiles.
At least your examples of the 300SL and DB9 (but especially the later Virage) are bonafide works of art at least as much as they are automobiles. As far as more modern Ferraris are concerned, I shouldn't really comment. I've just never been the fan of those.

 

[Matski]

or the original 635i

 

[leylandi]

 

[leylandi]

There is no truth to this. We have developed our own new family of modular engines—FAME (Family of Modular Engines)—which covers all displacements, and are already compliant with EU7, China 7, and U.S. regulations.'

'There Is No Truth to This:' Mercedes Won't Use BMW Engines After All

Chief Technology Officer and member of the Mercedes Group Board of Directors, Markus Schaefer, said that the two rival automakers won't share engines.

www.motor1.com

 

[leylandi]

The Mercedes engine portfolio is newer than BMW engines. It didn't make sense to me.

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[klier]

Ah damn, I was looking forward to humiliating you to no end.

The SL keeps its own crappy pathetic little 4 pot. Noted.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Ah damn, I was looking forward to humiliating you to no end.

The SL keeps its own crappy pathetic little 4 pot. Noted.

Think they're binning that for the M256 tho.

 

[Merc1]

They’d better.

M

 

[Tuffode]

It’s a complete abandonment of the core elements that made most of us BMW fans in the first place. Sporty luxury dynamics and design with driver-oriented sport luxury interiors. What we’re left with now are interiors with surface-level design . They are not true to BMW's DNA.

Most of the 'supporters' here only back this direction because it has a BMW badge on it, not because it’s true to what BMW was.

It's honestly crazy how quickly it happened too. I had a G30 and literally everything was the same as my E39 just done in a more modern way. Same 4 gauge layout, driver tilted cockpit, round steering wheel, same type of headlight switch, interior orange glow at night, same lock indicators on the top of the door, physical controls for literally everything with custom preset buttons, full seat controls with power headrest, even the key had the exact same button layout, same Helvetica font used throughout the car as well as in all the brochures and marketing. Not to even mention the exterior similarities.

In my opinion the F10 and G30 didn't drive like real BMWs with terrible numb steering but at least looking at them and sitting in them they felt like proper BMWs.

G60 and the new lineup as a whole just took a large shit on all of that.

 

[Mars1965]

MB using motors are going to stay 100% "Made in Stuttgart" says Markus Schaefer. Giving a respond to the rumors MB using the BMW 4 cilinder motors. Link: https://www.motor.es/noticias/mercedes-bmw-niega-alianza-motores-2025110070.html

What an arrogant shit brand this is. Using Renault and Geely motors pretending MB is THE brand with "in house MB engines.

Using emission-software for the diesel engines to mislead customers and governments like VW and Audi makes this brand completely untrustworthy.

What a big, arrogant, shitty brand. Living in the past!!

 

[Merc1]

What Geely motor does Mercedes use in which car?

M

 

[leylandi]

A bumpy road on the A4 at 19 degrees Celsius with a 96% charge. The goal was to drive at 160 km/h, despite all the dangers that came with it. So, for 107 km, I mostly drove between 140 and 195 km/h. The average speed was 145 km/h. A truly unfavorable driving profile for an electric car. Average consumption is 20.2 kWh per 100 km. With this driving style, the CLA would have covered 420 km.

Good cruising speed on the moderately bumpy A9 highway at 18-19 degrees Celsius.

130 km/h cruise control, covers 100 km at an average speed of 126 km/h. Average fuel consumption is 13.7 kWh per 100 km. With this driving style, the CLA covers approximately 620 km.

On a slightly bumpy A9 highway at 16 degrees Celsius, we drove 76 km at an average speed of 106 km/h with the cruise control set at 110 km/h.

Average fuel consumption was 12.4 kWh per 100 km. With this driving style, the CLA covered 685 km.

Mercedes CLA auch im Realbetrieb sehr effizient

Erster Erfahrungsbericht vom neuen Mercedes CLA (C174) - auch in der Praxis sehr effizient - gut für die Langstrecke

jesmb.de

 

[Rolf]

MB using motors are going to stay 100% "Made in Stuttgart" says Markus Schaefer. Giving a respond to the rumors MB using the BMW 4 cilinder motors. Link: https://www.motor.es/noticias/mercedes-bmw-niega-alianza-motores-2025110070.html

What an arrogant shit brand this is. Using Renault and Geely motors pretending MB is THE brand with "in house MB engines.

Using emission-software for the diesel engines to mislead customers and governments like VW and Audi makes this brand completely untrustworthy.

What a big, arrogant, shitty brand. Living in the past!!

The new CLA engine is not a Geely engine but designed by Mercedes Benz and manufacturers in China by Geely. Its a fully in house design by Mercedes.

 

[Rolf]

A bumpy road on the A4 at 19 degrees Celsius with a 96% charge. The goal was to drive at 160 km/h, despite all the dangers that came with it. So, for 107 km, I mostly drove between 140 and 195 km/h. The average speed was 145 km/h. A truly unfavorable driving profile for an electric car. Average consumption is 20.2 kWh per 100 km. With this driving style, the CLA would have covered 420 km.

Good cruising speed on the moderately bumpy A9 highway at 18-19 degrees Celsius.

130 km/h cruise control, covers 100 km at an average speed of 126 km/h. Average fuel consumption is 13.7 kWh per 100 km. With this driving style, the CLA covers approximately 620 km.

On a slightly bumpy A9 highway at 16 degrees Celsius, we drove 76 km at an average speed of 106 km/h with the cruise control set at 110 km/h.

Average fuel consumption was 12.4 kWh per 100 km. With this driving style, the CLA covered 685 km.

Mercedes CLA auch im Realbetrieb sehr effizient

Erster Erfahrungsbericht vom neuen Mercedes CLA (C174) - auch in der Praxis sehr effizient - gut für die Langstrecke

jesmb.de

The CLA certainly is quite an economical electric car and I find it more impressive in city driving at lower speeds where if driven frugally 1000km range is achievable if driving a constant 80km/h or 800km at 100km/h.

Another person responded from their driving of the CLA and he achieved some great numbers confirming Mercedes claim of 12kwh power usage. The charging speed is also very convenient and not far off an ICE.

 

[Design FIRST]

The new technologies that M-B and AMG are presenting are mighty impressive. Hats are off to them.

Unfortunately, I am finding myself a bit disappointed by their exterior design direction. Certainly not ugly, of course. Simply appearing...a bit bland mixed with that contrived "neo-retro" radiator shield. Other exhibitors at the IAA Mobility 2025 presented more interesting, more exciting exercises IMHO.

 

[Merc1]

I get that. I think the G Cabriolet, AMG GT Track Sport and FL GLE and GLS will help soothe some of that. At least I'm hoping it will. In the short term, be ready for some disappointment, i.e. the C-Class EV. It's gonna be ugly IMO.

M

 

[Merc1]

Just thinking about it, Mercedes is really going to reveal a lot late this year and all next year - GLE FL, C FL, GLS FL, AMG Track Sport, G-Cabriolet, g-class mini G, CLE63 and the big one the S_Class FL. Hard to imagine that all these will be on sale for the 2027 model year in the USA, but that's what it looks like. Somewhere in there they will roll out more versions of the new CLA both EV and ICE, then the new GLA and GLB. That is lot of vehicles.

M

 

[Rolf]

Probably the next model to debut in the upcoming months will be the new GLB EV. This could be a big seller next to the GLC.

I am curious whether this car will also have the same new grill as the GLC. It will probably look good with this new grill and more rakish than the current model.

The tail lights could be the talking point of this car, they do appear huge.

Interior will probably be a copy paste of CLA.

 

[Rolf]

Just thinking about it, Mercedes is really going to reveal a lot late this year and all next year - GLE FL, C FL, GLS FL, AMG Track Sport, G-Cabriolet, g-class mini G, CLE63 and the big one the S_Class FL. Hard to imagine that all these will be on sale for the 2027 model year in the USA, but that's what it looks like. Somewhere in there they will roll out more versions of the new CLA both EV and ICE, then the new GLA and GLB. That is lot of vehicles.

M

They mentioned at the IAA that they will launch an eye watering 40 new models in the next 2 to 3 years. That is a shit load of cars. I can imagine the journalists will be having a field day as both BMW and Mercedes together will launch 80 cars in the next 2 to 3 years so the journalists will be driving new BMW and Mercedes models through their ass lol.