Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[dalab]

It will be very interesting to see the approach that they will give to this baby G, the same smaller, or something different, retromodern or something else...
If they do it well they will sell even what they don't have

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

It will be very interesting to see the approach that they will give to this baby G, the same smaller, or something different, retromodern or something else...
If they do it well they will sell even what they don't have

If they literally just make a 3-door G-wagen with a shorter wheelbase, they'll sell millions of the bastards.
The G-wagen shape is iconic, and for whatever reason insanely desirable.

Personally I don't get this obsession with SUVs, but I suppose if I need something off-road capable, it'd have to be a G-wagen - not that I could ever afford one in this economy

 

[Tourbillon]

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[Centurion]

An SV variant is also on the way aimed at the AMG G63.

The SV is surplus to requirements. What the defender has showed is that optics matter more to people than specs and "luxury.

The vast majority of Defenders sold have a 4 cylinder engine - some have aftermarket kits to resemble a G-Class with 800-900hp.

 

[Tourbillon]

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[tristatez28lt1]

Honestly why bother with the Concept CLA as the new halo EV and advertising the crap out of it? Its efficiency, miles per kWh, is beaten by the Air 5.25 vs 5.27. The only difference is that the Lucid Air has been in production over a year and the CLA is a concept without any real world data.

 

[klier]

Honestly why bother with the Concept CLA as the new halo EV and advertising the crap out of it? Its efficiency, miles per kWh, is beaten by the Air 5.25 vs 5.27. The only difference is that the Lucid Air has been in production over a year and the CLA is a concept without any real world data.

But does the Air come with a full LED interior? No, I didn't think so!

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Honestly why bother with the Concept CLA as the new halo EV and advertising the crap out of it? Its efficiency, miles per kWh, is beaten by the Air 5.25 vs 5.27. The only difference is that the Lucid Air has been in production over a year and the CLA is a concept without any real world data.

What an odd thing to say.

Its like asking "Why bother marketing the Audi RS4 as the halo mid-size performance sedan, when the BMW M5 CS exists and is faster".

The CLA is not in the same market segment as the Lucid Air. Its smaller and cheaper.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

What an odd thing to say.

Its like asking "Why bother marketing the Audi RS4 as the halo mid-size performance sedan, when the BMW M5 CS exists and is faster".

The CLA is not in the same market segment as the Lucid Air. Its smaller and cheaper.

It's being heralded as the most efficient car ever similar to the EQXX - which was a joke as it was a two off with a carbon tub and similar to the XL1 in its significance.

 

[Tourbillon]

Mercedes-Benz threatened with recalls of Euro 6 cars over defeat devices!

Reuters

September 15, 202310:03 PM GMT+1Updated 2 days ago

"BERLIN, Sept 15 (Reuters) - Mercedes-Benz (MBGn.DE) could face another wave of recalls after German transport authority KBA deemed inadmissible defeat devices installed in some of its vehicles, in a letter leaked by a whistleblower to environmental NGO Deutsche Umwelthilfe (DUH).

In the letter published on DUH's website, the KBA referred to three devices found in cars produced under the Euro 6 standard, the most recent and stringent limits for harmful tailpipe emissions from petrol or diesel-powered vehicles.

Mercedes-Benz was obliged to take remedial measures or face an order to remove the cars from the road, it said, based on a ruling by the European Court of Justice that deemed such devices illegal in certain driving conditions.

The KBA was not immediately available for comment.

In a statement, Mercedes-Benz said it was co-operating fully with the KBA and that it believed it had already developed the technology required to tackle the issue via software updates.

The carmaker had received an extension beyond the originally requested date of July 27 to identify the number of cars affected and address the issue, the carmaker said, without giving the new deadline.

"We currently assume that software updates for vehicles that may be affected by a final decision on the functionalities ... have already been developed and are available in the field," the company added."

Reporting by Victoria Waldersee; Editing by Rachel More and Clarence Fernandez

Mercedes-Benz threatened with recalls of Euro 6 cars over defeat devices

Mercedes-Benz could face another wave of recalls after German transport authority KBA deemed inadmissible defeat devices installed in some of its vehicles, in a letter leaked by a whistleblower to environmental NGO Deutsche Umwelthilfe (DUH).

www.reuters.com

 

[Pagani]

Hm, what is this?! I like what is rumored to be in store for Maybach. Espedrially the first two studies: a reimagined Gullwing and a 4-Dr SEC. https://apple.news/AviEbGBegT26vVsZpd3hDcA

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

So essentially moving the CLS up to a Maybach level, positioning against the RR Ghost or something? Or a 4-door version of the S-class coupe.
Would be lovely.

They need to bring the S-class coupe back. Even if its just as a Maybach (but a normal Benz would be grand) ... with a V12

 

[Merc1]

I love it, Fcuk yeah. Most of those on that list sound great. The EV era is the time to start anew, even for Mercedes-Benz. I especially like this part: “Also high up on their list are extraordinary quality and craftsmanship, world-class safety and comfort, autonomous- ready software and hardware, and EV fast charging in five minutes or less”. Mercedes knows how to do this. Get this right please!


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[AbsoluteUnit]

I love it, Fcuk yeah. Most of those on that list sound great. The EV era is the time O start anew, even for Mercedes-Benz. I especially like this part: “Also high up on their list are extraordinary quality and craftsmanship, world-class safety and comfort, autonomous- ready software and hardware, and EV fast charging in five minutes or less”. Mercedes knows how to do this. Get this right please!


M

They need to bring back physical controls and high quality materials.

In the past, screens and touch screens epitomised luxury and technology, as it was still expensive. Nowadays touchscreens are commodity items. Craftsmanship and tactile feedback are what marks something has feeling expensive.
Mercedes have been too slow in realising this, and vehicle designers for luxury brands have their heads too far up their arse about minimalism and "clean" aesthetics, that they've forgotten about usability and quality in craftsmanship.

Mercedes has the money to do this. And they should do it at all levels, not just in Maybach.

 

[dalab]

Welcome at last all that madness!, although a little tangled (supercars, others from AMG, other derivatives of the current ones, etc.) those that will be very worthwhile are the totally new and bespoke Maybach mentioned despite some things that sound like they are for to be misleading, it is a brainstorm in exploration that if realized will be very entertaining, hopefully it will be soon because more than a year has passed since it was announced

 

[Serpens]

They need to bring back physical controls and high quality materials.

In the past, screens and touch screens epitomised luxury and technology, as it was still expensive. Nowadays touchscreens are commodity items. Craftsmanship and tactile feedback are what marks something has feeling expensive.
Mercedes have been too slow in realising this, and vehicle designers for luxury brands have their heads too far up their arse about minimalism and "clean" aesthetics, that they've forgotten about usability and quality in craftsmanship.

Mercedes has the money to do this. And they should do it at all levels, not just in Maybach.

I don't think Mercedes failed to realize anything. I think they just became obsessed with the market that is buying their most expensive cars in the highest quantity, which is China. Just recently Ola said they're going to focus even more on the infotainment experience because Chinese makers remain ahead of everyone else.

What we're all hoping is that Mercedes can strike a balance and create a blended experience of new and old world.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I don't think Mercedes failed to realize anything. I think they just became obsessed with the market that is buying their most expensive cars in the highest quantity, which is China. Just recently Ola said they're going to focus even more on the infotainment experience because Chinese makers remain ahead of everyone else.

What we're all hoping is that Mercedes can strike a balance and create a blended experience of new and old world.

Infotainment being good has nothing to do with everything being a mirror-finish-fingerprint-magnet touchscreen.

And they should hire proper UX designers to redesign MB.OS so that it looks more modern and doesn't have annoying opaque menus.

 

[Serpens]

Infotainment being good has nothing to do with everything being a mirror-finish-fingerprint-magnet touchscreen.

And they should hire proper UX designers to redesign MB.OS so that it looks more modern and doesn't have annoying opaque menus.

It does if touchscreens are an integral part of the infotainment experience. You'll see with the production CLA interior we're in it for the long haul. Hopefully as this matures they can be more artful for with the implementation and include high quality physical switches/buttons as shortcuts that can compliment to the touchscreens.

You'll also see a new menu structure with the full fledged MB.OS system. The E-class is still "almost MB.OS".

 

[Jonathan19]

Maybach SL?

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[Rolf]

So essentially moving the CLS up to a Maybach level, positioning against the RR Ghost or something? Or a 4-door version of the S-class coupe.
Would be lovely.

They need to bring the S-class coupe back. Even if its just as a Maybach (but a normal Benz would be grand) ... with a V12

A 4dr SEC coupe S-class would be awesome. They need to attack the high end market, but make sure those models have magnificent interiors with brilliant material quality and exclusivity to properly challenge Bentely and lower end Ghost RR models. Mercedes have the potential and sure putting the right minds together in their Manufacturer Line can craft up some fine materials used for the interior of their top end models.