S-Class (W223) Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W223) Facelift 2024

[leylandi]

I don't think they'll remove the e-performance add-on from the S63. Perhaps it could be converted into a long-range hybrid like the E53. Removing e-performance would mean throwing away all the investment.

 

[Swissbob]

I guess they’ll remove the E-Performance and put it in a SWB.

 

[MichiB]

I guess they’ll remove the E-Performance and put it in a SWB.

This would be great - without the AMG pomp

 

[Serpens]

I guess they’ll remove the E-Performance and put it in a SWB.

Perhaps in Europe. They're not going to bring the SWB to the U.S., that's a complete nonstarter.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I mean it could just be a case that they'll make a regular, non-AMG V8 PHEV with actual EV range.
Something like 525PS V8 + 125PS E-motor and 25kWh battery

 

[klier]

Some, speculative information regarding the FL W223. Please don't shoot the messenger! lol

1. The S63 will come with a significantly simplified variant, maybe without much going on in terms of electrics, making it more suitable for more global markets and more appealing from a weight POV.
2. The Manufactur program will be expanded significantly for LWB cars in more global markets.
3. The grill is somewhat like the GLC EV in overall shape, but, 'Much more elegant. A bit Bentley like'.
4. Reveal will be first half of 2026 for summer deliveries in Europe.

This all sounds pretty great. We will keep you alive for now.

I mean it could just be a case that they'll make a regular, non-AMG V8 PHEV with actual EV range.
Something like 525PS V8 + 125PS E-motor and 25kWh battery

Why would that be less complicated?

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

This all sounds pretty great. We will keep you alive for now.



Why would that be less complicated?

Less obtuse suspension geometry that's more focused on comfort, rather than having to stride across two different remits. The P3 set-up itself is a bit more complicated as it is 'F1 inspired' or whatever, than a P2 set up where the e motor is just shunted into the transmission.

I dunno. Just speculation.

 

[GTA45E]

A milder S63 supposedly without the AMG sport package, yet AMG stated back in June of this year that it would further distinguish itself
from its Mercedes siblings because this is what customers want.

“Customers love the distinctive AMG look and the differentiation it brings,” Schiebe told Motor Trend. “Our future cars will be more expressive in that dimension. If you look into the future, I would say you can expect cars that will be more visually differentiated—AMG will be doubling down on design. Our design language will be more expressive.”

You Won’t Recognize AMG’s Cars Two Years From Now | Carscoops

AMG’s new direction promises stronger visual identity and greater enthusiast-focused appeal

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Personally I am all for this. Mercedes needs to focus on bringing quality back to the S with this face/lift.
No more creaking plastics to the touch and glossy finishes. The S needs to shine here in a good way and bring back customers it has lost to the competiton. If its anything like the W214 E-Class, it will be on a positive note already. It will get better from here onwards I believe.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I guess they’ll remove the E-Performance and put it in a SWB.

I suspect we will just get the usual LWB, but in 2 variants.

A SWB S63 would be a dream come true for me, short of an S coupe.

 

[Jacke]

Parts leaked for the new S Class

can see more pics here https://www.instagram.com/p/DRWupxsEsI7

 

[klier]

Whoa that's quite the leak. Audi single frame style grille on a front design which appears heavily influenced by what looks like the E class..

With the same bumpers we've seen for 15 years on every Benz.

 

[Uygar]

I guess I was right with the E-Class like grille and the black surround.

 

[klier]

I guess I was right with the E-Class like grille and the black surround.

Yeah they managed to take the worst design element of the E class front and put it on the S class.
I absolutely hate the current MB senior management including the top design chiefs.

Sensual Purity should be rephrased to Generic Aerodynamic. Catchy, right? Generic Aerodynamic (™), by Gorden Wagener. GA by GW (™)

 

[SKY]

Looking at this, it’s hard to say which German brand is on a deeper design crisis. A couple of years ago I would have said Audi straight away. But MB has definitely taken the lead.

 

[MAJESTIC]

Looking at this, it’s hard to say which German brand is on a deeper design crisis. A couple of years ago I would have said Audi straight away. But MB has definitely taken the lead.

How did you come to this conclusion? Besides the EQ cars, that are being phased out, which Benzes are in design crisis?

 

[sako97]

The whole car will imminently be leaked if MB keeps messing around and prolonging the release like all their other pending facelifts.

 

[Uygar]

Probably the most realistic one. I also photoshopped some of the stuff to make it more in line with the leaked images.

 

[Rolf]

It does look like the front end with some E-class elements, but headlight shape is different where it blends into the grill surround and the grill will be much larger and I dont think they will use black surrounds but maybe more chrome.

Well we have to wait and see when the official first images appear.

E-class front end for comparison

 

[Uygar]

It does look like the front end with some E-class elements, but headlight shape is different where it blends into the grill surround and the grill will be much larger and I dont think they will use black surrounds but maybe more chrome.

Well we have to wait and see when the official first images appear.

E-class front end for comparison

They will use black surround. It would’ve looked horrible if those were all silver or chrome.

 

[klier]

I dont think they will use black surrounds but maybe more chrome.

Well we have to wait and see when the official first images appear.

If you look carefully at those leaked images you'll see that there appears to be a dividing line between what will the chrome part and what will be the black part.

They will use black surround. It would’ve looked horrible if those were all silver or chrome.

The part with #510 on it is the chrome part of the grille. #505 and #500 are the black parts (I don't know what the difference is between those two)