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In case anyone missed it. These are the only independently verified Mclaren Speedtail metrics in existence. Look at the in gear point to point numbers in comparison to the Bugatti Chiron.
Speedtail McLaren Speedtail (BP23 Project)
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The McLaren Speedtail is a limited production hybrid sports car manufactured by McLaren Automotive, revealed on October 26, 2018. This car is the fourth edition in the McLaren Ultimate Series, after the Senna, the P1, and the F1. The car is also part of the 18 new cars or derivatives that McLaren will launch as part of its Track22 business plan.
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In case anyone missed it. These are the only independently verified Mclaren Speedtail metrics in existence. Look at the in gear point to point numbers in comparison to the Bugatti Chiron.
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^I know right. Rich (extremely) people problems, LOL!
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McLaren Patent Filing Reveals Advanced Triple-Motor Rear Axle for Electric Supercar
McLaren could be entering the BEV supercar world soon.
www.thedrive.com
"Electric two-seat performance cars are not quite in their prime yet, but companies including Rimac, Porsche, General Motors, and more are working hard to get them on the road. British automaker McLaren just put a horse in the race, too. It already makes the hybrid Artura, but now it's applied to patent a potent three-motor drive system for a supercar likely driven purely by electricity.
The drive unit consists of a differential with an electric motor at every input/output. There's a primary motor at the input and one at each output where the axle shafts exit for a total of three. All of this is housed in one case made of aluminum or magnesium to save weight. The three motors work in tandem to not only drive the vehicle forward but also provide torque vectoring and regenerative braking. By braking or powering one of the two outside motors, the vehicle can move in all sorts of funny ways—and put its power down more effectively.
McLaren's patent doesn't specify the system's total output. It also does not detail any individual motor's output. The drive unit has stated applications beyond BEVs, though. The patent claims this system could be driven not just by a conventional battery pack, but also by a hydrogen fuel cell or a bank of supercapacitors. It also says this unit could be used in a hybrid vehicle, where it would be placed on the front axle with the rear axle driven by an internal combustion engine.
The system does seem particularly well-suited for a fully electric supercar, though. Having three separate electric motors in a hybrid car isn't unheard of, but it adds a lot of complexity. Hybrid cars with multiple motors also don't typically have them located in the same drive unit; they're typically distributed throughout the drivetrain.
Using three motors in tandem with a differential is an interesting choice. Driving one output shaft in a differential will spin the other in the opposite direction unless it has some sort of locking or limited-slip mechanism. This means one of the outside motors driving an axle will also apply a torque in the opposite direction to the other axle. Synchronizing both outside motors might be a challenge, and indeed, it's one McLaren anticipates. The patent states the center diff could be a locking unit, which would simplify the process of the outside motors applying torque strictly for driving the vehicle forward.
This sort of system is reasonably complex, but it could allow for unprecedented levels of control in terms of torque vectoring. This patent was published for public viewing in early January, but only filed in June 2022. In other words, it's a very recent development. It's possible McLaren is figuring out the nuts and bolts of a gizmo like this as we speak."
McLaren continues to amaze! LOL!
McLaren could be entering the BEV supercar world soon.
McLaren Patent Filing Reveals Advanced Triple-Motor Rear Axle for Electric Supercar
McLaren has a history of building hybrid cars like the P1 and the Artura, but a new patent indicates it might try a fully-electric model soon.
www.thedrive.com
"Electric two-seat performance cars are not quite in their prime yet, but companies including Rimac, Porsche, General Motors, and more are working hard to get them on the road. British automaker McLaren just put a horse in the race, too. It already makes the hybrid Artura, but now it's applied to patent a potent three-motor drive system for a supercar likely driven purely by electricity.
The drive unit consists of a differential with an electric motor at every input/output. There's a primary motor at the input and one at each output where the axle shafts exit for a total of three. All of this is housed in one case made of aluminum or magnesium to save weight. The three motors work in tandem to not only drive the vehicle forward but also provide torque vectoring and regenerative braking. By braking or powering one of the two outside motors, the vehicle can move in all sorts of funny ways—and put its power down more effectively.
McLaren's patent doesn't specify the system's total output. It also does not detail any individual motor's output. The drive unit has stated applications beyond BEVs, though. The patent claims this system could be driven not just by a conventional battery pack, but also by a hydrogen fuel cell or a bank of supercapacitors. It also says this unit could be used in a hybrid vehicle, where it would be placed on the front axle with the rear axle driven by an internal combustion engine.
The system does seem particularly well-suited for a fully electric supercar, though. Having three separate electric motors in a hybrid car isn't unheard of, but it adds a lot of complexity. Hybrid cars with multiple motors also don't typically have them located in the same drive unit; they're typically distributed throughout the drivetrain.
Using three motors in tandem with a differential is an interesting choice. Driving one output shaft in a differential will spin the other in the opposite direction unless it has some sort of locking or limited-slip mechanism. This means one of the outside motors driving an axle will also apply a torque in the opposite direction to the other axle. Synchronizing both outside motors might be a challenge, and indeed, it's one McLaren anticipates. The patent states the center diff could be a locking unit, which would simplify the process of the outside motors applying torque strictly for driving the vehicle forward.
This sort of system is reasonably complex, but it could allow for unprecedented levels of control in terms of torque vectoring. This patent was published for public viewing in early January, but only filed in June 2022. In other words, it's a very recent development. It's possible McLaren is figuring out the nuts and bolts of a gizmo like this as we speak."
McLaren continues to amaze! LOL!
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Sick car. Sick picture!
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I'm just slinking this one in here and I'm hoping nobody notices it! I've never in my life heard these numbers, I was cringing at some! Listen for the bloody roof scoop! Ultimately these are extremely wealthy people, but still!
Just a standard F8 will do! If the house gets sold I can sleep in it!
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This is why I find the idea of "usability" a bit laughable when it comes to these cars. They're too expensive—and in this world, borderline unethical—to own and maintain as boulevard cruisers and showstoppers. Unless you know how to really *drive* them around the average circuit—and don't mind doing so. In which case, give me something as driver focused and 'impractical' as the Valkyrie or as 'perfect' and drivable as the 918.
@duesy @Centurion
I'm just slinking this one in here and I'm hoping nobody notices it! I've never in my life heard these numbers, I was cringing at some! Listen for the bloody roof scoop! Ultimately these are extremely wealthy people, but still!
Just a standard F8 will do! If the house gets sold I can sleep in it!
For what I can afford and actually drive to my abilities, I'm quite happy with the Exige or Elise Cup for a track day. Light, not so wasteful and perfectly quick. I'd be even happier in a Dallara Stradale.
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Look through the pictures but be prepared for a shock at the end!
topgear.com.sg
McLaren's The Legacy Lives On Showcase : Twenty-One Pilots
Underscoring the launch of the new McLaren Artura was a showcase of twenty one McLaren vehicles, the first showcase of its kind in the world with $40 million USD’s worth of cars under one roof.
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OK so beautiful pictures out of the way!
"And to achieve said top it has an immensely aerodynamic body with a DRAG COEFFICIENT OF JUST 0.17."
Come again? WHAT?
See I did try to work it out a couple of years ago because without it top speed calculations are nearly impossible.
In the early days I think it was around 0.24- 0.25 I'd need to triple check, but some other time. Later benchmarking it against EQXX was a fruitful pursuit, even more so.
Chris Harris described absolutely beautifully when he was asked what it was like to drive the Mclaren Speedtail at speeds way South of 200MPH in comparison to the Bugatti Chiron.
There's very few people that have driven one or the other or even both. I'd figure even less at very high speeds and less so with his articulated approach and insights.
Anyway, mind officially blown. The figure will need at somepoint an official confirmation but sometimes McLaren won't do it.
"And to achieve said top it has an immensely aerodynamic body with a DRAG COEFFICIENT OF JUST 0.17."
Come again? WHAT?
See I did try to work it out a couple of years ago because without it top speed calculations are nearly impossible.
In the early days I think it was around 0.24- 0.25 I'd need to triple check, but some other time. Later benchmarking it against EQXX was a fruitful pursuit, even more so.
Chris Harris described absolutely beautifully when he was asked what it was like to drive the Mclaren Speedtail at speeds way South of 200MPH in comparison to the Bugatti Chiron.
There's very few people that have driven one or the other or even both. I'd figure even less at very high speeds and less so with his articulated approach and insights.
Anyway, mind officially blown. The figure will need at somepoint an official confirmation but sometimes McLaren won't do it.
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Now THAT'S what I'm talking about. You'd not even believe the online adventures I've been on with that car, LOL!
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Wow!
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Some of the most beautiful cars in the world with the world's worst tasteful steering wheels
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It's an incredible car. McLaren though limited it's top speed because the ride comfort on high speed tyres was not upto their standards.
They should have given clients the choice.
Ah well and it's beautiful yes and the steering wheels are good.
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