Lucid "Introducing Lucid Air Sapphire: The Pinnacle of Electric Performance."


Lucid is a luxury EV maker founded in 2007. Majority-owned by the Saudi PIF, it builds the ultra-efficient Air sedan and Gravity SUV. Official: Lucid
Disagree, £250K for a, and yes I'll keep repeating it, 5 seater 4 four saloon chasing down and beating out hypercars is steal, bargain of the Century perhaps? It's apparently on hypercar pace on the racetracks too~ remarkable.

As for asethetically inside or out I thinks she's nice.🙂
Yea , maybe. But one thing is for sure: Lucid Air customers are not GCF users. And they pretty much don't care about it. Sales numbers are bad. Lucid is doing layoffs.

Rivian on the other hand , is booming.

But in general , GCF users are a pretty niche clientele ( for some reason , everybody here loves manual cars , even though pretty much any DSG from a Golf is better than any manual ; everybody here loves expensive rare quirky cars , even though that is a bad business model ; and so on )


Let's wait and see the future of Lucid Air. My bets are against it...

And my reasons are many : Expensive , laggy software , too minimalistic interior for a >100k car , etc.

Just look at Model S. It's crap in terms of sales. But they have the Model 3 and Y to compensate .

Lucid has the cheaper Air. And it does not look well at all .

By the way : Lucid has a inventory of cars....And that is bad business for a new brand

EDIT: If beating hypercars is a criteria , Plaid is a waaaay better value ( half the price ) .
 
Disagree, £250K for a, and yes I'll keep repeating it, 5 seater 4 four saloon chasing down and beating out hypercars is steal, bargain of the Century perhaps? It's apparently on hypercar pace on the racetracks too~ remarkable.

$250,000, in £ it's likely to be more.

A performance bargain perhaps, but in the real world, what does 'chasing down and beating out hypercars' actually mean? Seeing who can hit the 20mph limit down Knightsbridge High St the quickest? Joining the Sub 60 club and setting a new lap record on the M25ring, then going directly to prison because of the 800 surveillance cameras?

I've often said that Hypercars themselves are a bit pointless, but at least if you take away the performance you still generally have something that looks good, sounds good, and feels good, and I'm really not sure the Air offers that, at least in enough quantity to justify $250,000.

Even if you're prepared to ignore those things and just want the performance, the Model S Plaid is half the price, and flexing any performance advantage the Sapphire has over the Plaid, on public roads, has all kinds of less than ideal outcomes. Zero-to-Magistrates court in 4 seconds or less.

So... yeah, it's a lot of performance for the money, but it does also seem a bit pointless.
 
$250,000, in £ it's likely to be more.

A performance bargain perhaps, but in the real world, what does 'chasing down and beating out hypercars' actually mean? Seeing who can hit the 20mph limit down Knightsbridge High St the quickest? Joining the Sub 60 club and setting a new lap record on the M25ring, then going directly to prison because of the 800 surveillance cameras?

I've often said that Hypercars themselves are a bit pointless, but at least if you take away the performance you still generally have something that looks good, sounds good, and feels good, and I'm really not sure the Air offers that, at least in enough quantity to justify $250,000.

Even if you're prepared to ignore those things and just want the performance, the Model S Plaid is half the price, and flexing any performance advantage the Sapphire has over the Plaid, on public roads, has all kinds of less than ideal outcomes. Zero-to-Magistrates court in 4 seconds or less.

So... yeah, it's a lot of performance for the money, but it does also seem a bit pointless.

Then everyone should sell their Bugatti's? They won't? What use are they in London? Or Edinburgh then?

"It's apparently on hypercar pace on the racetracks too~ remarkable."

That's's exactly what it means, it needs no explanations.

I'm aware of the Tesla Plaid.
 
Yea , maybe. But one thing is for sure: Lucid Air customers are not GCF users. And they pretty much don't care about it. Sales numbers are bad. Lucid is doing layoffs.

Rivian on the other hand , is booming.

But in general , GCF users are a pretty niche clientele ( for some reason , everybody here loves manual cars , even though pretty much any DSG from a Golf is better than any manual ; everybody here loves expensive rare quirky cars , even though that is a bad business model ; and so on )


Let's wait and see the future of Lucid Air. My bets are against it...

And my reasons are many : Expensive , laggy software , too minimalistic interior for a >100k car , etc.

Just look at Model S. It's crap in terms of sales. But they have the Model 3 and Y to compensate .

Lucid has the cheaper Air. And it does not look well at all .

By the way : Lucid has a inventory of cars....And that is bad business for a new brand

EDIT: If beating hypercars is a criteria , Plaid is a waaaay better value ( half the price ) .

What I said above? How many Holy Trinity owners are here? Exactly. Yet there are hundreds if not tens of thousands of pages of, well I won't say some of it hardly debate, spread all across the Internet. You know the score I don't need to tell you that, opinions and experiences vary massively, therefore so will the relaying of them.

I spend time with, or did, I've left some, with Solus manufacturer boards with actual owners, so my take is different a little to those that watch or video's or read magazines in isolation, I go into as much depth on some cars without putting a deposit down as it were, the MOST.

The Lucid Air Sapphire is one of them. But less so now because I for whatever reason enjoy the pre production prototyping more.

Because the Model S Plaid, I really got into it 12 months ago because I studied it beyond the numbers. As best you can!

As for Lucid, generally yes we will see. There's nothing else anyone can do.
 
Then everyone should sell their Bugatti's? They won't? What use are they in London? Or Edinburgh then?

Errr...

I've often said that Hypercars themselves are a bit pointless, but at least if you take away the performance you still generally have something that looks good, sounds good, and feels good, and I'm really not sure the Air offers that, at least in enough quantity to justify $250,000.

I'd imagine people find their Bugatti's desirable even if they're not able to reach its Vmax. All I'm saying is that I don't really see that with the Air.

"It's apparently on hypercar pace on the racetracks too~ remarkable."

That's's exactly what it means, it needs no explanations.

You say 'on racetracks too', implying that the comment about chasing down hypercars was something it did on public roads, but that aside, yes, if you're looking to set an impressive lap time it may well be a much cheaper, quieter, less engaging way of doing it than many hyper cars... great... errr... maybe.
 
for some reason , everybody here loves manual cars , even though pretty much any DSG from a Golf is better than any manual ; everybody here loves expensive rare quirky cars

pffffttt... no they don't

<goes off to check e-mail to see if bespoke engine parts from America have arrived with UK engine builder yet or if the the specialist that's taken 7 months to sort out the 6MT 1350kg RWD saloon car built as a homologation special, has made any further progress, so I can pay them 50% more than I paid for the car>

.. okay, maybe they do.
 
Lucid is a bit of a conundrum to me: they have by far the best EV tech and arguably the most innovative product however sales aren't up to expectations. Is it that they're not performing in EU? Why are people not buying the Air? Is it really the price (they dropped it a few days ago)?
 
Is it that they're not performing in EU? Why are people not buying the Air?

Not exactly awash with sales and service locations on this side of the Atlantic...

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Lucid’s Peter Rawlinson is highest paid auto CEO in 2022 with $379 million compensation! (?)

"The results of this year’s Automotive News/Equilar CEO Compensation Survey have revealed some very interesting tidbits about the earnings of some of the automotive industry’s key leaders. In 2022, the highest-paid automotive CEO was Lucid Motors CEO Peter Rawlinson, and at the very bottom of this year’s list lies Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who topped the 2021 list of highest-paid auto CEOs.

Lucid CEO Peter Rawlinson’s compensation package in 2022 reached a very impressive $379 million. This was comprised of a base salary of $575,000, which is pretty modest by auto CEO standards, and stock awards, which totaled $372,928,375. Rawlinson also realized $5,504,378 in stock option gains for a total compensation of $379,029,183."

 
2024 Lucid Air Sapphire First Drive Review: Crystal Blue Persuasion
The superlative sedan makes 1,234 horsepower and costs a cool quarter-mil.

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Brett T. Evans

By: Brett T. Evans

VERDICT 9.5 / 10
– Encino, California

Thanks to electrification, we are in a new era of automotive records. Every day, powerful and torquey EVs redefine what it means to be fast, offering such blistering acceleration that it would break the rules of any NHRA-sanctioned event. But even with that in mind, there was no way I was ready for the outrageous thrust offered up by the electric world’s newest record-breaker.

The 2024 Lucid Air Sapphire has a three-motor powertrain doling out up to 1,234 horsepower and 1,430 pound-feet, making it the world’s most powerful production four-door sedan in history. Upgraded from the already-quick Air, it vaults to 60 miles per hour in 1.89 seconds, a tenth quicker than the Tesla Model S Plaid, and will reach a manufacturer-claimed top speed of 205 mph. There was no way to test that last number in my 25-minute first drive of the flagship Air, but rest assured, we launched the thing again and again. And then once more for good measure.

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Like Strapping Into A Rocket
With Lucid Director of Vehicle Dynamics David Lickfold sitting in the passenger seat providing me with driving prompts, I assumed the brief spin in the Sapphire would be relatively sedate. After all, this is one of the company’s few production-intent examples, and we’d be motoring around in some unusually heavy mid-afternoon traffic for suburban LA.

I couldn’t have been more wrong. With the car set in its least aggressive “Smooth” drive mode, there’s still 767 hp on tap to give the Lucid plenty of shove when you dig into it – which David asked me to do in the middle of a sweeping corner on a six-lane road.

Ignoring every instinct, I followed his orders and was met with a butterfly-inducing shove to the lower back. But surprisingly, the car demonstrated impressive stability thanks to the tri-motor layout with a single motor on the front axle and a pair of motors for the rear, each one controlling a wheel. This gives the Lucid genuine torque vectoring, and in Smooth, the car will underdrive the outside wheel. This counter-intuitive behavior actually prevents the Air from feeling twitchy, unsettled, or tail-happy, even when giving it the boot through a corner. Driven thus, the Sapphire feels much like any other Air.

For our next exercise, we toggled the drive mode into the middle-ground “Swift,” enabling more dynamic torque vectoring from the rear motors. As we approached a freeway on-ramp with a tight, 160-degree turnaround, David told me to pin the accelerator just past the apex. As promised in our engineering discussion, the Sapphire applied more power to the outside rear wheel, tightening up the cornering line brilliantly before the ramp straightened out and we rocketed toward triple-digit speeds. I won’t cop to anything specific, but the experience was gut-wrenching and addictive.

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After a couple of exits – just enough time on the freeway to notice a hint of tire roar but impressive straight-line stability – we headed toward the winding sweepers of Sepulveda Boulevard. Here, David switched the car from Smooth to Swift, then up to the most aggressive Sapphire mode, with each successive changeup bringing palpable changes to the power delivery, torque vectoring, and adaptive damper tuning. Yet even in the hardest-core mode and its attendant, constant 1,121 hp (or the headline-grabbing 1,234 hp when launching from a stop), the Lucid remains reasonably genteel, with an avowedly firm ride but otherwise smooth behavior.

The true test of its control came as we conveniently approached a red light, first in line. Still in Sapphire, David had me hold the brake, then pin the throttle to engage launch control, an apt descriptor when the light turned green. Without a hint of wheelspin, the Lucid fired off the line like a 5,336-pound Olympic sprinter, yet the most awesome part of the experience was the relentless shove as the digital speedometer twinkled into ever-higher numbers. Even at freeway speeds, the Sapphire is able to deliver longitudinal G-forces that would rival some sports cars from a standstill, with little of the tapering that’s become emblematic of EVs.

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The experience proved to be too addictive to resist, and with the engineer’s permission, I launched the car from a stop sign once more, hitting an easy 60 mph within a few hundred feet. And the stopping power, formerly a blind spot in the Lucid performance portfolio, is outrageous. Not only is there sophisticated regeneration with one-pedal driving, but the upsized carbon-ceramic brake rotors also get pinched by 10-piston front calipers and four-piston rears. More of this, I say.

Electric Love
Underneath the Sapphire’s superlative power and acceleration lies the same graceful luxury sedan we first experienced last year. Somehow, adding an entire Nissan Z’s worth of horsepower hasn’t upset the Lucid’s smooth around-town manners, with an acceptably firm, well-damped ride courtesy of the stiffer coil springs, adaptive dampers, and thicker front and rear anti-roll bars.

The revised performance credentials don’t come at the expense of style, either. Every flagship Air comes with an eponymous coat of Sapphire Metallic paint, with a black-painted roof that ditches the overhead glass to save weight. Wheels measure 20 inches up front and 21 inches in the rear for more brake cooling, and bolt-on aero discs will come with each car for when range is a higher priority. A deeper chin spoiler and carbon-fiber rear ducktail add downforce, with smoother underbody elements to reduce lift. Best of all, the Sapphire comes with several little California bears on the exterior, a Lucid calling card that I adore.

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Go Fast, Go Far
While some performance EVs sacrifice lots of range to meet their lofty speed goals, the Lucid Sapphire will achieve 427 miles on a single charge. That’s down a bit on the 469 miles on offer from the Grand Touring trim, but the Sapphire can still cover the distance from the Golden Gate Bridge to Los Angeles City Hall in a single charge. And like the rest of the Air lineup, it has a maximum DC fast charge rate of 300 kilowatts, replenishing its 118.0-kilowatt-hour battery from 20 to 80 percent in just 15 minutes.

Its closest competitor is the Tesla Model S Plaid, which has marginally slower acceleration and a top speed of “just” 200 mph. The Model S doesn’t go quite as far in a charge, with an EPA-rated range of 396 miles with 19-inch wheels or 348 with 21s. But then again, it is a full hundred grand cheaper than the Lucid, starting at $108,490 and rising to $132,990 fully equipped.

In spite of its hometown competition from Tesla, the Lucid Air Sapphire feels like a much more fleshed-out idea. The cabin is richer, the suspension and braking upgrades are more comprehensive, and the driving experience feels more polished than any newcomer automaker has a right to. With poise and grace around town giving way to addictive thrust at the stoplight, my short time behind the wheel of the Lucid Air Sapphire was the best kind of tease."


(WEIGHT 5,336 Pounds or 2420KG's)
 
Lucid’s Peter Rawlinson is highest paid auto CEO in 2022 with $379 million compensation! (?)

"The results of this year’s Automotive News/Equilar CEO Compensation Survey have revealed some very interesting tidbits about the earnings of some of the automotive industry’s key leaders. In 2022, the highest-paid automotive CEO was Lucid Motors CEO Peter Rawlinson, and at the very bottom of this year’s list lies Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who topped the 2021 list of highest-paid auto CEOs.

Lucid CEO Peter Rawlinson’s compensation package in 2022 reached a very impressive $379 million. This was comprised of a base salary of $575,000, which is pretty modest by auto CEO standards, and stock awards, which totaled $372,928,375. Rawlinson also realized $5,504,378 in stock option gains for a total compensation of $379,029,183."
Someone could say that they paid him with colored mirrors
 
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Haven't seen this video yet given the length, but yes SG makes good insightful content. One of the three car channels I subscribe to.
 
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