Horrible crimes in Canada

[Osnabrueck]

LOL hopefully they label the "not as cruel" eggs such, just so that you don't mistake them for the "cruel as you could get" ones.. Anyhow, yeah, you can't always buy the slightly more expensive ones hoping they're form happier chickens unless they're labelled as such..

I'm specifically talking about eggs sold in Germany, which are clearly marked according to certain criteria. It's easy to differentiate the "cruel" eggs from the "less cruel" eggs. All one need do is pay another 20 cents. Seems like the two varieties sell on a 1:1 ratio.

Funny how there's a generation gap when it comes to giving a rip about animals. I never ran into an elderly person in Germany who'd buy the more expensive eggs.

 

[Snake Vargas]

I say all of 'em:
- The poacher, for doing whatever they do to make money, though arguably they have to make a living somehow and just happened to choose an unpopular occupation..
- The buyer, for creating a market for the items, although they could say that as long as it's legal, then why shouldn't they be allowed to have it?
- The government, for not having enough leadership to make a stand on issues that are important for the environment and other ethical issues, though they could say they're just doing exactly what their people want - what I'm saying is that perhaps not enough people care enough to take a stand against <insert name of issue here>.

They, and I realise in some cases "they" could be "we" or "I", are all to blame in part, but in most cases they're not really motivated by pure evil. Makes it hard, eh.

I'm specifically talking about eggs sold in Germany, which are clearly marked according to certain criteria. It's easy to differentiate the "cruel" eggs from the "less cruel" eggs. All one need do is pay another 20 cents. Seems like the two varieties sell on a 1:1 ratio.

Funny how there's a generation gap when it comes to giving a rip about animals. I never ran into an elderly person in Germany who'd buy the more expensive eggs.

Ok, that's easy then. In Australia they also tend to label them, but I'm not aware of any legal requirements to label in any particular way.

Whilst I'm speculating, I might as well say that old people might have done it hard in times gone by, and spending more to get what they see is the same end product is really against their instincts, even if they're not especially poor anymore. Maybe buying more expensive eggs is the pastime of the wealthy. Maybe just like choosing not to be a fur farmer is a concern for Canadians, and not Russians, where you might take whatever job comes your way.

Maybe Maslow's hierarchy of needs does have a bit of substance after all.

 

[Osnabrueck]

Well, whether we're talking about seal killing, fur farming or sturgeon poaching, there's always the question of who should be blamed in each case - the guy who does it, the person who buys the stuff or the government that allows it to happen? Or all of 'em?

I blame all of the above. However, we can place a reduced blame on people who are preoccupied with mere survival.

If I put myself in the shoes of an African poacher, what's the loss of a rare animal when I've got nothing to eat? It's ludicrous and insulting for people developed nations to say "do the right thing" when the allure of poaching is so severe.

Or what about a seal hunter, who's been reared by a hunting family that goes back generations? Can I blame somebody who's grown up in this environment? No. I place the blame at the feet of consumers and the Canadian government.

There's solutions to all this, but it comes through compromise.

 

[MikeJ]

A couple of video clips about foodstuffs:
Store Wars
Meatrix