GMA Gordon Murray T50 and T50s Niki Lauda

[Tourbillon]

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I put it in both T33 Spider and T50 sections, I didn't want anyone to miss it! Here I think it's definitely justified! Absolutely!

 

[Soup]

 

[Bridster]

An interesting article covering some of the prototypes used in development: GRR - How to develop a hypercar: GMA T.50 prototypes in‑depth

 

[Tourbillon]

Well there's a few! LOL!

 

[Centurion]

It’s a shame that the T.33 is barely a year older but looks 5-7 years younger. Like comparing MP12C to 720S.

 

[Tourbillon]

It’s a shame that the T.33 is barely a year older but looks 5-7 years younger. Like comparing MP12C to 720S.

For me, the biggest take away from above is these are pre production prototype's! If I'm wrong please correct me. But that's more than any manufacturer I've ever known with DVLA proof!

 

[Centurion]

I bet that GMA will do a Mclaren and sell the prototypes, if not keep them on the balance sheet as high value assets.

 

[Tourbillon]

I bet that GMA will do a Mclaren and sell the prototypes, if not keep them on the balance sheet as high value assets.

I asked if they'd done a deal seeing as they were pre production prototype's! They said Hotwheels would very happy to!

 

[Rolf]

It’s a shame that the T.33 is barely a year older but looks 5-7 years younger. Like comparing MP12C to 720S.

If only they didnt install such huge ungainly headlights on the T50 it would look fantastic, but it doesnt hold a candle to the T33, which is so so beautiful.

 

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[Tourbillon]

If only they didnt install such huge ungainly headlights on the T50 it would look fantastic, but it doesnt hold a candle to the T33, which is so so beautiful.

I prefer the rear of the T50. Looks more like a hypercar!

 

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[manuelf]

I love this car (T50) for its overall concept (size, nimbleness, NA highest rev V12, manual, weight, manufacturing and detailed quality) ...
I only haven't really warmed up to its design/looks

 

[Tourbillon]

That's one of the most iconic pictures of this car. Incredible.

As for the front those who've actually seen it right up close in the flesh have said it's stunning! Just give some time my friend for deliveries, we need to see different specifications.

I, also (privately) struggle with it's front end a little and haven't seen an example yet.

 

[martinbo]

I’m with Rolf here, the headlights are just plain ugly. In fact, despite its billing as Murray’s spiritual successor to his own design F1, sadly the T.50 doesn’t hold a candle to its forebear aesthetically.

Make no mistake, I fully appreciate that most of the T.50 is very special and that, obviously, I will never get to experience how much so, but I can’t help but ask - for the money - is it really that special?

And, while I don flame-retardant overalls, I must iterate that I really do get the primary brief of the T.50, which is to be the ultimate road-going performance car experience. That it’s not bent on being a track burning, laptime chasing circuit car is abundantly clear, yet, given its vital statistics it’s also undoubtedly sensational on a race track too - even in road-going trim.

Given my time behind the wheel of various Boxsters and Caymans, I also appreciate the on-road benefits of such a small footprint (it’s said to have much the same) so I only applaud the commitment to compact dimensions. At around 1100kg all up and allied to that sonorous V12, the T.50 will be an absolute event to pilot but, even so, I still find myself asking is its price of £2.5 million that justifiable?

My question is arguably irrelevant given that all were reportedly sold in under a week. Who dare argue with the boutique wants of billionaires? I just wonder which of them will fess up that nearly $3 million didn’t buy them a particularly good looking car. How many will admit that the front is off because the googly (and rather cheap-looking) headlights occupy far too much of the diminutive front-end’s surface area? Form over function - unlike which for the dustbin-fanned backside - isn’t justification here.

In any event, the ramblings of an internet nobody are meaningless when what we’re talking about involves the genuine automotive legend in Gordon Murray - someone who I admire immensely. All I’m saying is that this is a great deal of money even if for a lot of attention to detail.

 

[Centurion]

I’m with Rolf here, the headlights are just plain ugly. In fact, despite its billing as Murray’s spiritual successor to his own design F1, sadly the T.50 doesn’t hold a candle to its forebear aesthetically.

Make no mistake, I fully appreciate that most of the T.50 is very special and that, obviously, I will never get to experience how much so, but I can’t help but ask - for the money - is it really that special?

And, while I don flame-retardant overalls, I must iterate that I really do get the primary brief of the T.50, which is to be the ultimate road-going performance car experience. That it’s not bent on being a track burning, laptime chasing circuit car is abundantly clear, yet, given its vital statistics it’s also undoubtedly sensational on a race track too - even in road-going trim.

Given my time behind the wheel of various Boxsters and Caymans, I also appreciate the on-road benefits of such a small footprint (it’s said to have much the same) so I only applaud the commitment to compact dimensions. At around 1100kg all up and allied to that sonorous V12, the T.50 will be an absolute event to pilot but, even so, I still find myself asking is its price of £2.5 million that justifiable?

My question is arguably irrelevant given that all were reportedly sold in under a week. Who dare argue with the boutique wants of billionaires? I just wonder which of them will fess up that nearly $3 million didn’t buy them a particularly good looking car. How many will admit that the front is off because the googly (and rather cheap-looking) headlights occupy far too much of the diminutive front-end’s surface area? Form over function - unlike which for the dustbin-fanned backside - isn’t justification here.

In any event, the ramblings of an internet nobody are meaningless when what we’re talking about involves the genuine automotive legend in Gordon Murray - someone who I admire immensely. All I’m saying is that this is a great deal of money even if for a lot of attention to detail.

Gordon Murray is a thoroughbred engineer and his automotive designs were always going to reflect that. If a Mclaren F1 and Brabham BT46 had sex, their offspring would be a T50. It his vision, unadulterated and what fan boys are buying when they wire him $3m. If you don’t care about a fan then the T33 is in my opinion a more attractive overall package.

For the buyers who already have a $20-60m car collection, the T50 is more inflation beating than a chateau in France, piece of art, a yacht or shares in a risky tech firm. It’s a great networking tool at well “Wanna come to my mansion and check out my T50?”

 

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[J.E]

Is it safe in a crash? I don't think Gordon Murray cared about the safety at all. I can't imagine that a V12 car this light in this day and age is safe.

 

[Tourbillon]

Is it safe in a crash? I don't think Gordon Murray cared about the safety at all. I can't imagine that a V12 car this light in this day and age is safe.

It's passed all the necessary crash tests. It's homologated. But it doesn't have side airbags. So that tells you everything, and the T.33 has.

Their engineers.