GMA Gordon Murray Special Vehicles

[Centurion]

OT: is the Brunei Royal family still commissioning unique builds? I figure all the hubbub Jefri caused, they were taking a more low-key approach.

Not all one-offs are shown to the public. Some are never driven at all and go straight from factory to a home or storage facility. This includes Ferraris, Lambos and Bugattis. This is either for privacy or ego reasons.

The rules of selling to the ultra rich are:
-Avoid saying no to a requests.
-Instead you turn them away with a high price, sometimes they will check you on it and say let's go.

The who commissioned the GMSV S1 LM and ordered 5, own 2 T.50 and one of each of the other cars that Gordon Murray automotive have built.

 

[KiwiRob]

The S1 LM is a weird one to me. It's not even designed by Gordon Murray and apparently all 5 are going to the same customer. It's a glorified F1 T50-Restomod with a Gordon Murray badge more than anything.

If you watched Harry's video Dario said it's not using the T50 chassis, its completely bespoke and the design came from the owners own designer. From what I have read elsewhere the man who commissioned these cars is the same guy who bought the F1 HDF that lived in NZ for $19.8m a couple of years ago.

I think the 24 looks like mid engine homage to the R35 GTR.

 

[Centurion]

Another very interesting point is thet Gordon Murray SV is a completely independent business from Gordon Murray automotive. It has its own staff and profit & loss.

These cars are not vanity project but commissions that are profitable! Good way or shielding the main business from potential design related law suits.

 

[klier]

I bet many T.50 owners wish they had this instead.

Actually, they made it for the ones who weren't able to get their hands on a T.50
All 7 versions of the other are sold to one single person.

If you watched Harry's video Dario said it's not using the T50 chassis, its completely bespoke and the design came from the owners own designer.

But Dario is selling his product and is full of BS. Completely bespoke my f' ing ass. Changing a mounting point here and there sure doesn't make it something completely else. It's a glorified T.50 indeed.

 

[Centurion]

But Dario is selling his product and is full of BS. Completely bespoke my f' ing ass. Changing a mounting point here and there sure doesn't make it something completely else. It's a glorified T.50 indeed.

I agree. They would not have the resources and time to develop multiple completely bespoke vehicles in parallel. Neither would it be economically responsible for the business or the customers.

 

[Revvd]

Actually, they made it for the ones who weren't able to get their hands on a T.50

Ok, let me rephrase it then... I bet many T.50 owners wish their cars looked like this.

 

[klier]

Ok, let me rephrase it then... I bet many T.50 owners wish their cars looked like this.

Let me get this straight too.....which one do you actually mean, the Temu F1 or that blue abomination?

 

[Revvd]

Let me get this straight too.....which one do you actually mean, the Temu F1 or that blue abomination?

That would be the blue abomination

 

[Matski]

Both look better than the T50 to me <shrug>, I don't love any of them though.

 

[Jonathan19]

Gordon Murray Special Vehicles Has 12 Projects Already In The Pipeline

Gordon Murray Special Vehicles Has 12 Projects Already In The Pipeline

Four of those undertakings are reportedly coming soon.

carbuzz.com

 

[SNB]

Gordon Murray Special Vehicles Has 12 Projects Already In The Pipeline

Gordon Murray Special Vehicles Has 12 Projects Already In The Pipeline

Four of those undertakings are reportedly coming soon.

carbuzz.com

I hope they do an “updated SLR”, the way Gordon intended it rather than the way Mercedes wanted it.

 

[KiwiRob]

I agree. They would not have the resources and time to develop multiple completely bespoke vehicles in parallel. Neither would it be economically responsible for the business or the customers.

If the owner is paying 20m each or some other silly number like that a lot can be accomplished.

Small companies like GMA, Pagani, and the rest aren't spending hundreds of millions on vehicle development, they don't sell anywhere near enough to cover those costs.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

If the owner is paying 20m each or some other silly number like that a lot can be accomplished.

Small companies like GMA, Pagani, and the rest aren't spending hundreds of millions on vehicle development, they don't sell anywhere near enough to cover those costs.

The most expensive part is to prepare the product for mass production. A single prototype costs about 2m Euro to produce. So everything above is a profit.

 

[klier]

Small companies like GMA, Pagani, and the rest aren't spending hundreds of millions on vehicle development, they don't sell anywhere near enough to cover those costs.

They don't have to, because if there is a problem with your car, you just bring it back to them and they fix it.

And when VW has a problem with one of their cars, they will have to recall hundreds of thousands of cars, which would cost them hundreds of millions of dollars.
Which is why they spend billions of R&D trying to avoid that.

But small companies like Pagani and GMA sure as hell don't have a couple of different platforms laying around.

 

[Jonathan19]

S1 LM in Papaya Orange

S1 LM in a classic Marlboro livery

S1 LM Based on the ‘Harrods’ #51 F1 GTR that took the final podium position in the 24h of Le Mans back in ‘95

From Monaco Auto Design

 

[martinbo]

The appropriation is appalling.

 

[Centurion]

If the owner is paying 20m each or some other silly number like that a lot can be accomplished.

Small companies like GMA, Pagani, and the rest aren't spending hundreds of millions on vehicle development, they don't sell anywhere near enough to cover those costs.

Pagani one off models still share alot of parts like engine, headlights, tail lights and interior with the base cars. The GMSV does not. It also includes a higher displacement engine. Those modifications need R&D, testing and optimising.

The most expensive part is to prepare the product for mass production. A single prototype costs about 2m Euro to produce. So everything above is a profit.

That might be true for track only cars. But not for road legal production cars. If you want it homologated for several continents, new headlights, tail lights, engines, tyres and crash structure needs tested.

This includes going back to the drawing board several times based on learnings. All of which are also impacted by the customer's standards and demands.

 

[KiwiRob]

These cars are all built under the low volume or single vehicle type approval. It's a completely different world, if they had to go through a full type approval process non of these low volume or bespoke vehicle would exist today. A prime example is Lanzante road legal conversions of the 935, AM Vulcan, various Pagani models, its all done under low volume vehicle type approval rules. the UK makes this really easy.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/2908/regulation/4/made/data.xht#:~:text=Interpretation%20of%20%E2%80%9Clow%20volume%20type,as%20the%20vehicle%20in%20question.