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[fortuner]

Well let’s hope Checo wakes up and stops playing Me nice guy to Max. The picture to see checo dad was sad.

Congrats to GR.. many more to follow hopefully.

That brat admitted he went into Lewis what a ass

 

[TopspeedPT]

^^ Absolutely ridiculous.

...or not

Max being Max once again. Didn't help Perez during the race...

 

[TopspeedPT]

so looking back at the race

chaotic from the start
Merc were surprisingly well of when their main competition (Charles and Max) couldn't battle with them
Lewis knew Max was attacking from the right and he still turned to hit the apex despite giving room on entry
dick move by Max not letting Checo get those points
sad day for Mclaren fans

Watch again.

Hamilton vs Verstappen - Brazil 2022

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[bmwz4coupe]

Saying that Verstappen is not a team player is an understatement. Another example of the same is Alonso. And outside F1; Cristiano Ronaldo. What they have in common is that they only care how themselves are doing. They don’t give a damn how the team is doing, as long as they are winning and shining

 

[Sunny]

Saying that Verstappen is not a team player is an understatement. Another example of the same is Alonso.

Another example - Senna. Another. - Schumacher. Another - Alonso, Another - Hamilton (vs both Alonso and Rosberg - don't act like it didn't happen). Another - Vettel. In other words, pretty much every multiple world champion (Except Mika) since the 80s. Doesn't justify what Max did. But it is par for the course.

 

[kiki voinea]

Another example - Senna. Another. - Schumacher. Another - Alonso, Another - Hamilton (vs both Alonso and Rosberg - don't act like it didn't happen). Another - Vettel. In other words, pretty much every multiple world champion (Except Mika) since the 80s. Doesn't justify what Max did. But it is par for the course.

Can you name one event with one driver that was a turd , BUT had NO stakes in the game?

I read about Senna all over the place , especially his "romance" with Prost. But ALWAYS there was a stake in the middle.

So , please , name one driver from what you named , and one event , when they where a**holes but there was NO stake in the middle.

 

[Sunny]

Can you name one event with one driver that was a turd , BUT had NO stakes in the game?

I read about Senna all over the place , especially his "romance" with Prost. But ALWAYS there was a stake in the middle.

So , please , name one driver from what you named , and one event , when they where a**holes but there was NO stake in the middle.

Sorry, I am not sure what you mean by "stake in the middle".

 

[kiki voinea]

Sorry, I am not sure what you mean by "stake in the middle".

Ex: Senna vs Prost , 1989 , the stake was Championship.
Hamilton vs Rosberg , really? They where always in a battle for the 1st place.

2022 : Verst vs Perez , battle for ??

 

[Sunny]

Ex: Senna vs Prost , 1989 , the stake was Championship.
Hamilton vs Rosberg , really? They where always in a battle for the 1st place.

2022 : Verst vs Perez , battle for ??

Ah got it. What is your point? That Max is a bigger asshole? Sure. I can see that. And what?

Fact is, they are all assholes by my standard. But I also have 0 WCs.

 

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[kiki voinea]

Ah got it. What is your point? That Max is a bigger asshole? Sure. I can see that. And what?

Fact is, they are all assholes by my standard. But I also have 0 WCs.

We can agree on that. For sure

But my only take is that you said that they (others than Max) did it also. And I wanted to know when they where , and if there was any factual reason behind it.

But , I also have 0 WCs.

So damn...

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

But , I also have 0 WCs

#Me too

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Another example - Senna. Another. - Schumacher. Another - Alonso, Another - Hamilton (vs both Alonso and Rosberg - don't act like it didn't happen). Another - Vettel. In other words, pretty much every multiple world champion (Except Mika) since the 80s. Doesn't justify what Max did. But it is par for the course.

I see a lot of similar arguments in all sport diciplins; that to be a champ you need to be an asshole or an ego etc. This is pure BS. Just looking at the other champs with «normal» personality proves the contrary. And this is not black or white, you have different grades. The three I mentioned are clearly in the worst class, and you could also put Michael Schumacher in the same group. Hamilton, for example, is always protesting with team decisions but he understand team play, and he is to smart to not obey.

 

[LaArtist]

I see a lot of similar arguments in all sport diciplins; that to be a champ you need to be an asshole or an ego etc. This is pure BS. Just looking at the other champs with «normal» personality proves the contrary. And this is not black or white, you have different grades. The three I mentioned are clearly in the worst class, and you could also put Michael Schumacher in the same group. Hamilton, for example, is always protesting with team decisions but he understand team play, and he is to smart to not obey.

That last part, thats it.
Max is a dumb f#ck, he is like a slow hillbilly of f1. Even more amazing that he has as many wins as he has when he is mentally challenged.

 

[martinbo]

Max Max Max Super Max Max Super Super Max Max Max Super Max Max...

Eventually, it's gonna go to your head...

 

[Matski]

I see a lot of similar arguments in all sport diciplins; that to be a champ you need to be an asshole or an ego etc. This is pure BS. Just looking at the other champs with «normal» personality proves the contrary.

I'm not sure I'd generalise either way, I do think though, that to make a career in motorsport as a driver means you are more likely to have been moulded into a two faced, tantrum prone, spoiled, self-important, egotistical twat-bag.... and if you happen to become a champion, people are more likely to see that.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

I'm not sure I'd generalise either way, I do think though, that to make a career in motorsport as a driver means you are more likely to have been moulded into a two faced, tantrum prone, spoiled, self-important, egotistical twat-bag.... and if you happen to become a champion, people are more likely to see that.

Yes, people tend to stereo-type. My point is that world champs are not all the same, even if many of them will have elements of egocentric personality.

 

[Matski]

My point is that world champs are not all the same, even if many of them will have elements of egocentric personality.

I'd agree with that, but it's no surprise that it often gets mentioned in the context of motorsport.

Pretty much the nicest, most sincere and inspirational sportsman I've ever met is the 1997 & 1998 CART Champion (and mulitple olympic gold medal winner)... but I have to confess, many other drivers I've 'met' that I would consider my favourites (including multiple WTCC, BTCC and DTM champions), actually don't come across that well in person.

 

[Sunny]

I see a lot of similar arguments in all sport diciplins; that to be a champ you need to be an asshole or an ego etc. This is pure BS. Just looking at the other champs with «normal» personality proves the contrary. And this is not black or white, you have different grades. The three I mentioned are clearly in the worst class, and you could also put Michael Schumacher in the same group. Hamilton, for example, is always protesting with team decisions but he understand team play, and he is to smart to not obey.

Lol, Hamilton - the same one who ones leaked team performance data after being out qualified by Button? The same one who disobeyed multiple team orders to not back Rosberg into Vettel in 2016? The one who disobeyed team orders to let Alonso pass in 2007 Hungary GP quali? Or, wait for it - the one who threw a hissy fit cause he thought Button unfollowed him on Twitter?

Or Vettel - who disobeyed team orders and passed Webber, not to mention crashed into him?

So I don't know who is left? I seriously can't recall a multiple F1 WC ((besides Hakkinen) who has not been a selfish dick at some point or another in the last 30 years or so I been following F1. If you know of one, let me know. Are there different grades of assholes, sure. But potayto, potahto.





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[bmwz4coupe]

Are there different grades of assholes, sure. But potayto, potahto.
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Of course there are different grades. And the point is that its not fair to put all the others in same group as the likes of Verstapppen & co.