Donald Trump's mansion is for sale

[450SEL6.9]

What makes Victor Horta's buildings particularly interesting is the use of raw industrial elements used in a decorative way -- the steel beams, rivets and bolts are all still visible -- the engineering of the building is also decorative -- this was a totally new concept inspired partly by Charles Darwin and his observations of architecture in nature, but also by the new industrial age.

Personally, I have never been a huge admirer of Horta. My opinion of his works varies from hot to cold. I generally don't like such obviously industrial elements in a residential home, but he didn't do too many of those. That type of design is not uncommon and not exclusive to Horta. I've seen so many converted commercial buildings that look like that and I can't say I'm a fan.

 

[SDNR]

What about the Austrian architect Josef Hoffmann ...his work was at the cutting edge of design.

This interior from 1902 is the dining room at the "Palais Stoclet" mansion in Brussels, Belgium. The paintings are by Gustav Klimt.

 

[450SEL6.9]

I've seen that building before. My friend goes to design school and I saw a picture of that Hoffmann building. We both agreed, sadly, that it looks like a rather well known morgue in Hong Kong.

This is a good day for new threads. Siko put up one on the new armoured Mercedes S600 Guard.

 

[audi_rudy]

Hey Rob that house is very nice i have seen it i live about 15 minuets away from Newport and all those houses over there are amazingly beautiful. Someday im going to have to go over there and take photos for all you guys. Many of those mansions over there are open to the public because they are owned by land trusts and such. One of the nicest over there is the Breakers you should check it out on the web.

 

[Osnabrueck]

I saw a walkthrough of the Trump property on TV last weekend and was thoroughly unimpressed. It's like a bland, Home Depot vision of what a constitutes a luxury estate.

Cool stuff Rob. What would we do without you as our "in house authority?"

 

[Imhotep Evil]

Hmmm, that is an interesting question BMWFREAK.

Classicist style architecture is an almost universally understood language today -- and for the most part, it is used to express wealth, power, and prestige. Most of these huge mansions completely lack a sense of scale and proportion -- proportions are of utmost importance in classicism.

Yes, I agree Roberto.

The Rosecliff mansion was built in 1902 and has very good proportions,

Agreed.

but the Trump mansion, like so many others, seems to lack a genuine sense of elegance.

And coherence too.

The

 

[Imhotep Evil]

Actually, they are not at all true to the time they were built in. The marble house mansion was built at the end of the 19th century -- it is an imitation of the Louis XIV style from the 17th century.

The true style of the late 19th century was more like this:

Designed by the Belgian architect Victor Horta in the Art Nouveau style.

What makes Victor Horta's buildings particularly interesting is the use of raw industrial elements used in a decorative way -- the steel beams, rivets and bolts are all still visible -- the engineering of the building is also decorative -- this was a totally new concept inspired partly by Charles Darwin and his observations of architecture in nature, but also by the new industrial age.

True, but Art nouveau would not reject some of those previously shown elements.
Art Nouveau wasn't just steel and glas.

 

[450SEL6.9]

One of the nicest over there is the Breakers you should check it out on the web.

Breakers is an Italian palazzo style mansion. I think it's nice, but I prefer the English mansions.

 

[NarutoRamen]

while those are nice houses gentlemen...I'm a simpleton and respect the value of money. Thus, I'll be happy with a 5 bedroom house on a few acre (spelling?) lot. With a nice back yard and long front yard with a nice tiled garage...that's how i like it...simple and gorgeous.

 

[CarGuy]

Lmao for 120 milion dollars I whould get mylself a nice car collection and a 10 million dollar house

 

[SDNR]

Tru
Art Nouveau wasn't just steel and glas.

Well yeah, I am aware of that Imhotep Evil, It was just that Horta's architecture was particularly Modern at that time. Art Nouveau was a style or decorative/applied art, not a movement. The Art Nouveau style is a part of the Modern movement.

 

[SDNR]

Hey Rob that house is very nice i have seen it i live about 15 minuets away from Newport and all those houses over there are amazingly beautiful. Someday im going to have to go over there and take photos for all you guys. Many of those mansions over there are open to the public because they are owned by land trusts and such. One of the nicest over there is the Breakers you should check it out on the web.

That would be great audi_rudy, I would love to see them myself one day ...they are interesting houses.

 

[SDNR]

Cool stuff Rob. What would we do without you as our "in house authority?"

I wouldn't say that Josh ...but thanks

 

[SDNR]

while those are nice houses gentlemen...I'm a simpleton and respect the value of money. Thus, I'll be happy with a 5 bedroom house on a few acre (spelling?) lot. With a nice back yard and long front yard with a nice tiled garage...that's how i like it...simple and gorgeous.

LOL, well I wouldn't choose to live in such a huge house either ....in spite of what it appears, I am not any where near as materialistic or showy as I might sometimes seem

 

[Osnabrueck]

I'd have no problem living in a house the size of Kentucky, so long as it was a fabulous piece of architecture. Trump's mansion, on the other hand, is a crass embarrassment with wanton disregard for good taste or fine craftsmanship.

Rob, I'm of the mind that the persuit of fine objects, cars and the like don't necessarily equate to being showy or materialistic. There's people who gravitate twoards luxury paraphernalia because of cachet and then there's those who can appreciate the truely finer things in life.

The greatest estates aren't necessarily the largest or most feature-filled just as the world's finest watches aren't diamond encrusted or cast from solid gold.

 

[warot]

I saw this on VH1 a while ago... one of the most expensive houses in the US.
Don't like it to be honest. I could never live in a house that big.

 

[SDNR]

I'd have no problem living in a house the size of Kentucky, so long as it was a fabulous piece of architecture. Trump's mansion, on the other hand, is a crass embarrassment with wanton disregard for good taste or fine craftsmanship.

Rob, I'm of the mind that the persuit of fine objects, cars and the like don't necessarily equate to being showy or materialistic. There's people who gravitate twoards luxury paraphernalia because of cachet and then there's those who can appreciate the truely finer things in life.

The greatest estates aren't necessarily the largest or most feature-filled just as the world's finest watches aren't diamond encrusted or cast from solid gold.

I cannot express to you how much I agree with you Josh ...everything you have said here is precisely what i believe too.

 

[rightnow]

To sterial in my opinion, too much space. Would just look silly to lie there by the pool all by yourself..

 

[Osnabrueck]

I'm loathe to defend the Trump mansion, but it is unfurnished.

 

[rightnow]

Yeah i know, but still!