Politics The end of the Trump Presidency

[chonkoa]

To add to the earlier point made, here is a snapshot of the dollar index in the last 10 days. The last time the Dollar was this low in the last 4 years was in the first quarter of Trump's presidency in 2017. This volatility is purely driven by the risk of a peaceful transfer of power. The knock-on effect is the increase in prices of dollar denominated commodities.

 

[chonkoa]

The remotest prospect of a successful 2024 Trump campaign will relinquish the U.S. governments' integrity regarding the adherence to treaties/agreements with the vast majority of potential foreign partners. And that long before November 2024. This, of course, is conditional in that the EU, for example, remains relatively stable. Sadly, what is currently unfolding in the U.S.A. is not necessarily confined to that particular country.

Indeed.
I see the end of his political career. But the rise of DJT is closely linked to the feedback of the effect of globalization. I have always believed that we got it wrong especially with the out-sourcing of our industries.
In the US for example, the ability to own a home is closely coupled to income. Stagnation or loss of income directly affects the housing market. So a persons zip code determines the quality of education especially at the K-12 level.
Now here is the biggest feedback that we never envisaged- the loss of industries also affects the educational system. Our schools are funded for the most part through property taxes. So areas within a certain income bracket that are severely affected will lose their ability to fund their schools properly (programs, quality of teachers etc). So now have generations of kids that have lost the ability to debate,discern, critical thinking is lost. People are more vulnerable to conspiracy theories.

 

[Zonda]

Photoshoped pictures

I'm sure there are plenty. This one however seems legit as far as my filter bubble goes.

Regardless its futile to get caught up in details. His lack of character is beyond obvious.

 

[Bucketslash11]

Indeed.
I see the end of his political career. But the rise of DJT is closely linked to the feedback of the effect of globalization. I have always believed that we got it wrong especially with the out-sourcing of our industries.
In the US for example, the ability to own a home is closely coupled to income. Stagnation or loss of income directly affects the housing market. So a persons zip code determines the quality of education especially at the K-12 level.
Now here is the biggest feedback that we never envisaged- the loss of industries also affects the educational system. Our schools are funded for the most part through property taxes. So areas within a certain income bracket that are severely affected will lose their ability to fund their schools properly (programs, quality of teachers etc).

you just discovered one of the contradictions of capitalism, blaming globalization is the wrong answer, it is simply the necessity of capital to reproduce itself

 

[WBarnes]

Obama is a war criminal
to quote Noam Chomsky:


and to quote Lenin:

True. The CFR is your government whoever you vote for. Nearly all acts which led the US into war since the sinking of The USS Maine to Iraq's WMDs were lied about to greater or lesser degrees, with perhaps the 1991 Gulf War and Korean War being the only exceptions.

To add to the earlier point made, here is a snapshot of the dollar index in the last 10 days. The last time the Dollar was this low in the last 4 years was in the first quarter of Trump's presidency in 2017. This volatility is purely driven by the risk of a peaceful transfer of power. The knock-on effect is the increase in prices of dollar denominated commodities.

That graph is not even remotely scary when placed alongside the graph of the purchasing power of the USD from 1665-1900 and then 1900-2021.

Indeed.
I see the end of his political career. But the rise of DJT is closely linked to the feedback of the effect of globalization. I have always believed that we got it wrong especially with the out-sourcing of our industries.
In the US for example, the ability to own a home is closely coupled to income. Stagnation or loss of income directly affects the housing market. So a persons zip code determines the quality of education especially at the K-12 level.
Now here is the biggest feedback that we never envisaged- the loss of industries also affects the educational system. Our schools are funded for the most part through property taxes. So areas within a certain income bracket that are severely affected will lose their ability to fund their schools properly (programs, quality of teachers etc). So now have generations of kids that have lost the ability to debate,discern, critical thinking is lost. People are more vulnerable to conspiracy theories.

Globalists will of course make an argument for redistributing wealth to the poorer nations, as long as it's your wealth not theirs. After that stage is completed, they will redistribute everyone's wealth to themselves.

 

[WBarnes]

Indeed.
I see the end of his political career. But the rise of DJT is closely linked to the feedback of the effect of globalization. I have always believed that we got it wrong especially with the out-sourcing of our industries.
In the US for example, the ability to own a home is closely coupled to income. Stagnation or loss of income directly affects the housing market. So a persons zip code determines the quality of education especially at the K-12 level.
Now here is the biggest feedback that we never envisaged- the loss of industries also affects the educational system. Our schools are funded for the most part through property taxes. So areas within a certain income bracket that are severely affected will lose their ability to fund their schools properly (programs, quality of teachers etc). So now have generations of kids that have lost the ability to debate,discern, critical thinking is lost. People are more vulnerable to conspiracy theories.

Globalists will of course make an argument for redistributing wealth to the poorer nations, as long as it's your wealth not theirs. After that stage is completed, they will redistribute everyone's wealth to themselves.

The Sinking of The USS Maine - Not even the slightest chance the Spanish did that. They knew that the US had them horribly outmatched and were on to a very profitable thing with Cuban sugar.

Lusitania - A ship carrying 1,000 civilians and lots of munitions during WWI that was told to slow down through an area where they knew a German U-Boat was lurking and given no destroyer escort.

Pearl Harbour - They knew that attack was coming from at least 4 different sources - Diplomatic intercepts, Naval dispatch intercepts, a Yugoslavian spy and Dutch intelligence, which was relayed to a US military guy, who told the War Department it was coming so many times that they told him to stop.

Gulf of Tonkin - The imaginary August 4th attack.

Syrian terror attacks during the 1980s - Blamed on Libya --> Operation Grand Canyon.

Iraq's WMD - An out of date dossier and an inside source (who wanted asylum) who described the production and stockpiling of VX in a way that couldn't possibly be correct but was oddly similar to scenes from The Rock.

Literally nobody could ever discern fact from conspiracy theories, the education system has little to do with that.

you just discovered one of the contradictions of capitalism, blaming globalization is the wrong answer, it is simply the necessity of capital to reproduce itself

It isn't capitalism when you have too big to fails who are constantly having taxpayer's money redistributed to them while they, at the same time, redistribute taxpayer's wealth and jobs to other countries, all in order to have more people to rob at a later date.

Kerry won the 2004 election were it not for electronic voting fraud, but he didn't kick up much of a fuss, because it literally didn't really f'ing matter anyway.

 

[WBarnes]

A lighter note.

 

[Bucketslash11]

It isn't capitalism when you have too big to fails who are constantly having taxpayer's money redistributed to them while they, at the same time, redistribute taxpayer's wealth and jobs to other countries, all in order to have more people to rob at a later date.

that is very much capitalism, when buying elections lead to a greater return on your investment then it is following a key component of capitalism, capitalism literally turns politics into a commodity (commodity fethishism) where politicians sell idealism (lies) to the working class while dividing the working class along lines that don't matter (divide and conquer)

here's a video of an Iraqi ML who can explain why corporatism is capitalism:

 

[klier]

I fully agree with @J.E, these political threads on this website are just sad.

The only thing that will come out of it is people disliking each other. Nothing else.

 

[Bucketslash11]

Globalists will of course make an argument for redistributing wealth to the poorer nations, as long as it's your wealth not theirs. After that stage is completed, they will redistribute everyone's wealth to themselves.

you've got it the wrong way, imperialists loot countries to make themselves and their companies rich, which in turn makes the imperialist nation rich and if the country/workers don't comply with the imperialist nation then they get overthrown (see Latin America)

the secondary point i can't even understand, the only redistribution that happens in society is the theft of surplus vale from the workers to the capitalist class/imperial core

 

[chonkoa]

you just discovered one of the contradictions of capitalism, blaming globalization is the wrong answer, it is simply the necessity of capital to reproduce itself

I agree and disagree with you.
First of all I agree with you on the contradictions of capitalism.
The fundamental essence of capitalism hinges on what entity(actors) manages these two factors: risk/reward, and the return on the deployment of the factors or production, namely Capital Labor, Resources(note I replaced entrepreneurship with resources) and Land. The risk is inherit on the individual/corporations deploying the factors available to create and manage a value chain. Simply put- what is created is more valuable than the sum of the processes. Since everything is denominated in currency, we can lump the entire process as numerical figure in an acceptable currency.
So we can say capitalism hinges on risk/reward and capital efficiency. Prior to globalization the movement of capital was a bit restrictive thus you had businesses that were localized in the value chain creation. What moved freely were raw materials and finished goods through trade. This arrangement never upended the social balance in most western societies pre 2000s
What changed was when capital started moving freely across borders to take advantage of lower components of the factors of production chiefly labor. This meant factories were relocated along with the know-how to places where goods can be produced cheaper. In doing so we gave away our competitive advantage as well the core components of communities.
Now I am advocating undoing what has been done completely, however we need to rethink our strategy and redress certain areas. Not everyone wants to be computer scientist, some people just want to be welders and there need to be jobs for them in the value chain.
Peace.

 

[WBarnes]

you've got it the wrong way, imperialists loot countries to make themselves and their companies rich, which in turn makes the imperialist nation rich and if the country/workers don't comply with the imperialist nation then they get overthrown (see Latin America)

the secondary point i can't even understand, the only redistribution that happens in society is the theft of surplus vale from the workers to the capitalist class/imperial core

But with the current system of globalism, it's the poorer working people in richer nations that are getting poorer whilst all this is happening. Why pay workers a US wage, when they can pay someone else a 3rd world wage.

 

[WBarnes]

Now I am advocating undoing what has been done completely, however we need to rethink our strategy and redress certain areas. Not everyone wants to be computer scientist, some people just want to be welders and there need to be jobs for them in the value chain.
Peace.

Biden ain't going to do that.

 

[David Brent]

I fully agree with @J.E, these political threads on this website are just sad.

The only thing that will come out of it is people disliking each other. Nothing else.

My wife asked me only the other day, "why are you discussing politics on a car forum?" I didn't have an answer.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

My wife asked me only the other day, "why are you discussing politics on a car forum?" I didn't have an answer.

Yes.

In resignation (and because I'm an old fart and little if anything of what I expound on these forums' will genuinely change any diecast opinions), I'll simply revert to something "philosophical" and accept that human beings are unable to learn from history and are simply caught in cyclical reactions to trauma in which sustainable change (healing, unity or whatever) is unachievable.

 

[klier]

My wife asked me only the other day, "why are you discussing politics on a car forum?" I didn't have an answer.

It's wasted time. Talking about cars is too, but really on an entirely different level...

 

[David Brent]

My wife asked me only the other day, "why are you discussing politics on a car forum?" I didn't have an answer.

As an addendum to this; I asked my wife why she insists on always having the toilet seat down. She had a LOT of answers.

 

[klier]

Enamel is cold to the butt, yes.

 

[chonkoa]

I agree and disagree with you.
First of all I agree with you on the contradictions of capitalism.
The fundamental essence of capitalism hinges on what entity(actors) manages these two factors: risk/reward, and the return on the deployment of the factors or production, namely Capital Labor, Resources(note I replaced entrepreneurship with resources) and Land. The risk is inherit on the individual/corporations deploying the factors available to create and manage a value chain. Simply put- what is created is more valuable than the sum of the processes. Since everything is denominated in currency, we can lump the entire process as numerical figure in an acceptable currency.
So we can say capitalism hinges on risk/reward and capital efficiency. Prior to globalization the movement of capital was a bit restrictive thus you had businesses that were localized in the value chain creation. What moved freely were raw materials and finished goods through trade. This arrangement never upended the social balance in most western societies pre 2000s
What changed was when capital started moving freely across borders to take advantage of lower components of the factors of production chiefly labor. This meant factories were relocated along with the know-how to places where goods can be produced cheaper. In doing so we gave away our competitive advantage as well the core components of communities.
Not that I am advocating undoing what has been done completely, however we need to rethink our strategy and redress certain areas. Not everyone wants to be computer scientist, some people just want to be welders and there need to be jobs for them in the value chain.
Peace.

I just corrected my post.

 

[chonkoa]

Now I am advocating undoing what has been done completely, however we need to rethink our strategy and redress certain areas. Not everyone wants to be computer scientist, some people just want to be welders and there need to be jobs for them in the value chain.
Peace.

Biden ain't going to do that.

This was what I meant.
Not that I am advocating undoing what has been done completely, however we need to rethink our strategy and redress certain areas. Not everyone wants to be computer scientist, some people just want to be welders and there need to be jobs for them in the value chain.