CLK-Class (C209) CLK63 to eat M6????

[Centurion]

I just read the title of the thread: No fricken way....

Lol. I think the same thing. The CLK is simply not hard core enough to compete with the M6.

 

[PanterroR]

I just read the title of the thread: No fricken way....

Hehe, agreed!

 

[ALI]

And now , that you guys see the final pics and slight performance figures , do you still think the CLK 63 is not hardcore enough to compete with M6 ?

I mean dont get me wrong , I never thought the CLK63 would be this hardcore either and turn out to be such a beauty . But I still want to know how many people have crossed their fingers on their opinion .

 

[LaArtist]

take it from a MB fan.. i would be very surprised if the CLK was faster around the track.. i dont think that will happen..
but in a straight line.. well lets say it will be a very very close race

 

[Alx]

Its for sure a contender.... Lots of torque. I dont see it being faster... It really isnt a track car.

 

[Porsche Guy]

I think BMW is flirting with the boundaries of what is possible considering that they are using NA engines. So they have a V10, then maybe next generation a V12... but it will end there. Eventually, all of the big 3 will hit a ceiling and we will finally be done with the HP war.

a higher cylinder count does not equal more power, in fact it can often lead to less as you have more moving parts which equals more friction and inertia to overcome. I don't think that BMW necessarily needs to make the next M5 have an increase in power like what happened in the case of the e39 to e60. Rather, I'm hoping that BMW works on reducing the weight of their cars, which they have started to do with carbon fiber and lightweight plastic body panels on the M6. I would expect the next M5 to again have a 5 liter V10, maybe 5.5 liters, but use direct injection and perhaps debut camless technology to improve HP. Also, with gas prices on the rise, these two technologies are certainly needed. Both improve MPG on top of HP figures. My M5 gets on average 12 mpg! I don't even want to think what the MPG figure would be with an extra liter of displacement.

 

[Merc1]

I'm still trying to get used to thought of 481hp in a CLK! Makes me shudder to think what the update for the SLK55 to SLK63 will be like.

As far as the M6 I still don't think the CLK63 will be faster around a track and in a straight line it will be close, but I think the M6 will still win by the thinnest of margins.

Then again this CLK63 has been retuned so anything is possible. Now the CLK63 F1 car......

M

 

[NarutoRamen]

to honestly tell you the truth...I definitley don't think that the clk63 can take on the M6. Like others have suggested, in a straight line it might but not around a track. As much as I respect AMG, I don't think they did nearly enough to this clk in order for it to match the M6 around the track. Now which one I would take from the two? I would slightly lean towards the M6 simply because it just looks a little better than the clk...not much, just a little...if you look at the pic on the first page of this thread, just look at the clk's side profile, its just so boring, no interesting lines are there.


But now if you were to bring in the CLK-safety car... ...you all know what i'm going to choose then...that car is beautiful and i hope AMG offers that as a package.

 

[warot]

a higher cylinder count does not equal more power, in fact it can often lead to less as you have more moving parts which equals more friction and inertia to overcome. I don't think that BMW necessarily needs to make the next M5 have an increase in power like what happened in the case of the e39 to e60. Rather, I'm hoping that BMW works on reducing the weight of their cars, which they have started to do with carbon fiber and lightweight plastic body panels on the M6. I would expect the next M5 to again have a 5 liter V10, maybe 5.5 liters, but use direct injection and perhaps debut camless technology to improve HP. Also, with gas prices on the rise, these two technologies are certainly needed. Both improve MPG on top of HP figures. My M5 gets on average 12 mpg! I don't even want to think what the MPG figure would be with an extra liter of displacement.

Right right, I know what you mean. I guess I was just generalizing about cars becoming more powerful. I think you might actually be spot on with the 5.5 liter deal. I can see the few next M5s being V12s... but it's gotta stop there. Maybe I'll have to take my words back in a few years, we'll see.

P.S. M6 for me... I will still stand by the fact that the 6er is still one of my favorite looking BMWs at the moment. Yea, I'm one of those guys.

 

[Porsche Guy]

Right right, I know what you mean. I guess I was just generalizing about cars becoming more powerful. I think you might actually be spot on with the 5.5 liter deal. I can see the few next M5s being V12s... but it's gotta stop there. Maybe I'll have to take my words back in a few years, we'll see.

I really hope that the next M5 has a V10. V10's are more bespoke, IMO.

 

[warot]

I really hope that the next M5 has a V10. V10's are more bespoke, IMO.

I agree with you PG. I think that the V12 should be reserved for the 760i and Li.

 

[Merc1]

Yeah I like the idea of a V10 in a car like the M models from BMW. A V12 would be too heavy I think a M5/6. Now in a M7..........

M

 

[bum-man]

V10's are more bespoke, IMO.

They can be found in pickup trucks. I think they were in trucks even before the Viper debuted the worlds first V10 in a car.

 

[Zafiro]

if CLK63 is faster than M6 in straightline then its faster than E63/CLS63 as well. I doubt AMG is making CLK63 faster than those. The driving experience will be sportier and the car more fun to drive. Also it will beat a CLS63 around a track but loose in acceleration.

PS, I sat in the CLK63 yesterday and the interior quality isnt as nice as I thought it would be, some details details looks cheap but the design from the outside is beautiful.

 

[ALI]

if CLK63 is faster than M6 in straightline then its faster than E63/CLS63 as well. I doubt AMG is making CLK63 faster than those. The driving experience will be sportier and the car more fun to drive. Also it will beat a CLS63 around a track but loose in acceleration.
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I dont agree with you just me , the E63 and CLS 63 both will be quicker than the CLK 63 atleast after 60mph , on the other hand all three AMG 63s will be quicker than the M6 . That doesnt sound nice , but it's true and we will see this in upcoming comparisons . We both know that the 6.3s has the advantages the M6 had over CLS55 , now we are talking about high revvers , high displacement and lots of more torque . The only advantage the M6 has is the 2 extra cylinders , well Ill tell u this much just_me :GOOD LUCK with that . Moreover , we all know how quick MB's 7GTRONIC functions , imagine what happens when AMG modifies that master peace .

PS, I sat in the CLK63 yesterday and the interior quality isnt as nice as I thought it would be, some details details looks cheap but the design from the outside is beautiful

Again I disagree , nothing wrong with the CLK's interior in either quality , materials , and design . Nothing new to the eye I agree , but nothing is wrong with that . besides , atleast the instrument cluster is different .

 

[Zafiro]

I dont agree with you just me , the E63 and CLS 63 both will be quicker than the CLK 63 atleast after 60mph

I wish I was as sure as you

Again I disagree , nothing wrong with the CLK's interior in either quality , materials , and design . Nothing new to the eye I agree , but nothing is wrong with that . besides , atleast the instrument cluster is different .

I didnt say there was anything wrong with the interior but its not perfect either

 

[LaArtist]

is the M6 interior perfect.. i dont remember

 

[ALI]

is the M6 interior perfect.. i dont remember

LMAO ....... MB fanatics Double teaming a BMW fan .


Yes Just_Me , it's not perfect I know . But the quality is good and the it doesnt look cheap , that's what I meant .

 

[Zafiro]

is the M6 interior perfect.. i dont remember

I havent said that either. Its you guys who act like Im saying so

 

[Top Secret]

Warot^ the next gen M cars are going to go turbo to better compete. I think we can expect a turbo charged M5.

Anyone else find this statement weird?

I severly doubt the M Division will go onto turbo'ing their engines.

Anyway. Overall, no, the CLK63 AMG will not 'eat' the M6, but I sure as heck know that I'd take a CLK over an M6.