M5 BMW M5 (F90) - Spy Pics & Info

[SKY]

Spectacular.

 

[SCOTT27]

Its approaching Summer in Munich and yet we still have intermittent snow flurries whilst here in Beijing the sun is shining.
Anyway that's two out of three BMW M models. There is a third.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

If there's an X3 M then there must be an X4 M. However, that was the G series X3 M, and I don't believe there are any spy shots of a G series X4.

M7?

Now that the base M2 has been launched , maybe the M2 GTS or CSL?

I think it's between the M7 and a more hardcore M2.

 

[Fido]

If there's an X3 M then there must be an X4 M. However, that was the G series X3 M, and I don't believe there are any spy shots of a G series X4.

M7?

Now that the base M2 has been launched , maybe the M2 GTS or CSL?

I think it's between the M7 and a more hardcore M2.

Or M5 Touring...

 

[SCOTT27]

Its the Z5 M.

 

[Fido]

This last one isn't Z5M. This have only two tailpipes... Maybe, will be M-Pack.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Thanks @Fido. Someone who knows what they're talking about.

 

[donkeykong]

So is this the result of BMW and Toyota's joint venture?

 

[SCOTT27]

This last one isn't Z5M. This have only two tailpipes... Maybe, will be M-Pack.

Some prototypes start out with two.
But this is not that car. The photographers should look as they done for M5 and X3M

 

[klier]

So is this the result of BMW and Toyota's joint venture?

Yep.

 

[SKY]

Shouldn't we move the Z5 talk to its thread?

 

[Rainer271]

Next Gen F90 M5 to stay RWD, says Van Meel

It may be a hard pill for enthusiasts to swallow, but with with each generation getting even more power, it's apparently only a matter of time before BMW's M-badged cars are no longer rear-wheel drive only.

That's the word according to M division's CEO Frank van Meel. Speaking with Autocar, he said rear-wheel drive would always remain the default configuration for M cars, but an all-wheel-drive option was inevitable. It will have to be rear-biased and will be different than xDrive, but it will still send power to all four wheels.

Traction control, stability control, and torque vectoring technology have improved drastically over the years, but they still aren't enough to reliably and safely put more than 600 horsepower to the ground.

With BMW's M cars getting so powerful, van Meel said it's getting hard to sell them without all-wheel drive in markets like Canada and Switzerland. M-badged SUVs like the X5 M already use all-wheel drive, but (at least for now) its sedans have traditionally done without.

Thankfully, all-wheel-drive M cars are probably still several years off. Van Meel confirmed that the next-generation M5 will stick with RWD. It will also do without most of the autonomous technology the new 5 Series will borrow from the 7 Series.

While we understand why BMW will need to offer all-wheel drive on its M cars, we're thankful to at least get one last RWD M5 before that happens.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...nfirms-all-wheel-drive-m-cars-are-inevitable/

 

[Rainer271]

All you need to know about the next BMW F90 M5

We tell you everything we know about the BMW F90 M5. It will be presented in Paris, will pilot laser and OLED lights, a V8 engine and four-wheel drive xDrive. It will also have the latest telematic functions.

The arrival of the new generation of the BMW 5 Series is imminent. This summer we will see the new 5 Series for the first time, followed by the Paris Motor Show debut in September and the market launch at the end of the year. This new 5 Series will preview the most exciting model of the entire range and a reference in the segment of sports sedans – the BMW M5 .

The new M5 is built under the codename F90 and over the last few months we have seen several prototypes testing on public roads and at the Nurburgring. The super sporty middle class athlete will officially launch in 2017 and will bring some exciting updates to the M5 family. First and foremost, the F90 M5 has received the harsh treatment of weight loss, thanks to the inclusion of exotic materials such as high strength steels or carbon fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP).

The current M5 F10 was already close to two tons weight, so the weight savings in this new generation are crucial for the driving dynamics of the new M5. According to our sources, the weight scale will indicate around 100 kilograms less than the current F10 M5.

THE ENGINE
BMW will stay true to its V8 TwinTurbo engine which replaced the iconic V10 S85 5.0-liter rider on the M5 E60 of the Bangle era. During the development of the new M5 F90, there were several rumors about new engine downsizing, which essentially would have given the F90 M5 a powerplant similar to the one found in the new M4 and M4 GTS. But even the track-focused GTS – with its innovative water injection technology – only outputs 500 horsepower. A respectable figure but still far less than the 600 horsepower delivered by the M5 30 Jahre Edition.

Therefore, the new F90 M5 will use the same base architecture of the current V8, but with a twist. The updated unit has been optimized to deliver maximum power at a wider rpm range, yet the power won’t exceed by much the 600 hp mark. Sources say a 620 hp figure is definitely achievable, but won’t confirm the final power output. Currently, the M5’s rivals are in the range of 550 to 605 hp.

ALL-WHEEL DRIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME
The F90 M5 will also bring the long-time rumored all-wheel drive system to an M5 and future M6 models. The xDrive system will be rear-biased, just like the one in the X5 M and X6 M SUVs, and it will be optional. The xDrive system has been developed specifically for the M5, with a specific task to retain the driving dynamics of a rear-wheel drive sportscar, with the bonus of having an effective grip and traction on all four wheels.

The standard transmission is rumored to switch from the 8-speed M Steptronic to an M-dual-clutch transmission. Sources say this M5 might still offer the manual gearbox for the American market.

LOTS OF SHINNY NEW TECH
The safety equipment and comfort features of the new M5 will be in line with the developments of the new 7 Series and the upcoming G30 5 Series. Functionalities such as autonomous driving, Driving Assistant Plus, Parking Assistant Plus and Remote Control Parking and Connected Drive services that can be found in the new 7 Series will find its way in the new F90 M5.

Optional laser lights will also adorn the M5, while OLED taillights will be among the standard equipment.

In conclusion, the new M5 will be quite innovative when it comes to its tech, but the design is expected to be an evolution of the current M5. It will build upon the G30 5 Series and will incorporate the M-treatment as seen in the image embedded here.

Source: BMWBlog

 

[SCOTT27]

If I commissioned this? I would say no its a very poor rendering because Its a 7er and they know its a 7er. Its not a 5er as the evidence available shows how a 7er is not a 5er etc. And also how long have we known M Sport has the V shaped intake and M has the U shaped intake.
I thought everybody would know this by now.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

If I commissioned this? I would say no its a very poor rendering because Its a 7er and they know its a 7er. Its not a 5er as the evidence available shows how a 7er is not a 5er etc. And also how long have we known M Sport has the V shaped intake and M has the U shaped intake.
I thought everybody would know this by now.

The whole article is rubbish, and I'm surprised you haven't picked up on that. What is surprising is that it's BMWBLOG, which is supposed to have stronger links to official info.

We tell you everything we know about the BMW F90 M5. It will be presented in Paris.

The standard transmission is rumored to switch from the 8-speed M Steptronic to an M-dual-clutch transmission. Sources say this M5 might still offer the manual gearbox for the American market.

Functionalities such as autonomous driving,

The standard 5er will get its world premiere at Paris, so I will be very surprised if the M5 is also there. More like a concept at best. I expect the M5 world premiere will take place at Geneva Mar 17.

The current M5 has the 7-speed M DCT, so I don't know what they're talking about saying it will switch from the 8-speed Steptronic. They're getting confused with the X5 and X6 M.

An official M person has already said there will be no manual gearbox for the U.S. market.

An official M person has also already said the M5 will not have autonomous driving.

 

[martinbo]

I can't wait to get a car with lots of new tech that's shinny.
Thing is... does shinny tech have something to do with the new hockey stick styling element or is it something else that makes your arse pucker up?

It's dreadful piece of text. Sorry BMWBlog - I am quite fond of you...

 

[klier]

It's dreadful piece of text. Sorry BMWBlog - I am quite fond of you...

Yes. Where is the quality control?

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Not only that, but there's a post just above that BMWBLOG piece which quotes M boss Van Meel saying the M5 won't get 4WD either.

 

[JLBM]

Next Gen F90 M5 to stay RWD, says Van Meel

It may be a hard pill for enthusiasts to swallow, but with with each generation getting even more power, it's apparently only a matter of time before BMW's M-badged cars are no longer rear-wheel drive only.

That's the word according to M division's CEO Frank van Meel. Speaking with Autocar, he said rear-wheel drive would always remain the default configuration for M cars, but an all-wheel-drive option was inevitable. It will have to be rear-biased and will be different than xDrive, but it will still send power to all four wheels.

Traction control, stability control, and torque vectoring technology have improved drastically over the years, but they still aren't enough to reliably and safely put more than 600 horsepower to the ground.

With BMW's M cars getting so powerful, van Meel said it's getting hard to sell them without all-wheel drive in markets like Canada and Switzerland. M-badged SUVs like the X5 M already use all-wheel drive, but (at least for now) its sedans have traditionally done without.

Thankfully, all-wheel-drive M cars are probably still several years off. Van Meel confirmed that the next-generation M5 will stick with RWD. It will also do without most of the autonomous technology the new 5 Series will borrow from the 7 Series.

While we understand why BMW will need to offer all-wheel drive on its M cars, we're thankful to at least get one last RWD M5 before that happens.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...nfirms-all-wheel-drive-m-cars-are-inevitable/

This is disappointing to me, no AWD and less autonomous tech. Hopefully it's not true, at the least give us ACC for those long highway trips..

 

[Fido]

Sometimes, guys, you're very hard. The problem is the translation from spanish to english. The original text, in spanish, tells that "the new M5 will have the same systems of autonomous driving that the new 5-Series, quoting some systems".

And this is very different that tell "the new M5 will have autonomous driving".

Second: the spanish original text tells that "in US, the new M5 COULD have one manual gearbox". "Could", conditional, it exist any possibility..

Third: the spanish original text tells that "for the new M5 we will have to wait some months more, because new M5 will arrive later". They aren't telling that the new M5 will arrive in Paris as the new 5-Series.