M3/M4 BMW M4 CS - BMW takes wraps off most potent model in M4 lineup

[manuelf]

To be honest: I'm a bit upset/sad
Why? Because the CS would be the perfect package for me! Intelligent honing and fine tuning of the M4 Competition basis. Keeping a perfect elegant look without overdoing it! Delivering a 7:38 at NoS, but still looking reserved WITHOUT a giant wing tacked on the boot! Sporty interieur, tastefull colors and rim design....

BUT... BIG BUT: Quoting 30.000€ on top of the price of a M4 Competition (that is the base prize of a 3 series) for honing/tuning of an existing M4 Comp. is
Here in Germany they quote 117K € for the CS, while a M4CP with DCT costs 88K ...

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Unless the M6 Gran Coupe is out of production then I agree.

Is the M4CS really limited ? If the EOP for the standard M4 is in 2019 and the M4CS will run for
2017-2019 how's it limited? Sounds like marketing to me.

There are only 300 pcs 4CS for the German market (acording to AutoBild), I haven't seen anything for the rest of the world

 

[Matski]

There are only 300 pcs 4CS for the German market (acording to AutoBild), I haven't seen anything for the rest of the world

Germany reportedly got 80 GTS's out of an official production of 700 (though I think it ended up being around 800), so if they were using a similar model, that would indicate around 2500-3000 M4 CS's... though that is only fag packet maths - it doesn't point to it being that limited, but less than something like a Porsche 911 GT3.

 

[Cashmere]

Like the door pull. I would have thought that they would get rid of the metallic door handle handle as well if they're going the extra mile to make a bespoke lightweight door card for the interior.

 

[Matski]

Like the door pull. I would have thought that they would get rid of the metallic door handle handle as well if they're going the extra mile to make a bespoke lightweight door card for the interior.

The pull is for closing the door, the handle is for opening it... surely?

 

[Cashmere]

The pull is for closing the door, the handle is for opening it... surely?

I could be wrong - but aren't the door pulls used for both, opening and closing the doors on cars such as the GT3? Dual purpose = weight saving?

Lol, not that any of this matters. Maybe i'm just looking for a reason to justify why this costs the same amount of money as a Cayman GT4 and all I can think of are door pulls

 

[as7920]

 

[hovabongZA]

There are only 300 pcs 4CS for the German market (acording to AutoBild), I haven't seen anything for the rest of the world

My thinking is that if you want a M4 CS and you've got the money , you'll get it.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

My thinking is that if you want a M4 CS and you've got the money , you'll get it.

No, if I buy myself a car for pure joy it would be E30 M3 or Z3/4 Mcoupe manual

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I love the alcantra steering and the alacantra parts. The car looks good under the bonnet too.

It does, albeit exactly the same as the standard M4.

@Betty Swollocks , so are you going to trade in your new M4 for one of these now?

Nah.

I'm glad BMW are offering the CS, and I knew it was on its way, but it's not what I need. I have my R8 for even more performance. For me, the beauty of the M3/M4 over the years is that it's a fast car but could easily be a family car, and you could pick your auntie up from the bingo and she wouldn't have a clue about the performance on offer. This takes it too much towards a track car.

And the price difference to the CP is insane. 10hp you won't even notice in the same way I don't notice 19hp over the standard M4. The carbon bits you can get separately. It doesn't even come with the M Performance exhaust. And as far as I can tell, the brakes are the same as on the standard M4. I don't like the rims. The OLED rear lights are pretty cool but it doesn't justify a purchase in my eyes.

As much as it seems popular in this thread, I'd like to see the same people put in the position of paying an extra €30,000 over the M4 CP actually go through with it.

 

[SCOTT27]

 

[Sunny]

I could be wrong - but aren't the door pulls used for both, opening and closing the doors on cars such as the GT3?

True.

The M2 CS comes next.

No M3 CS?

 

[SCOTT27]

True.



No M3 CS?

I think it's more of a Coupe thing (for now)

 

[klier]

True.

Actually no, you open the car the normal way on the M4 GTS/CS. It's true for the GT3 if that's what you meant.

 

[mini_cooper4]

Well, it is only a CS, and not a CSL



Price aside, it's good (I'm sure it will be very good) for doing what an M4 should do --- and since it's limited production the price doesn't have to relate to what you're getting for the money - because people will pay it anyway - to be honest I can't look at your avatar without two very recent examples of this practice also coming into my head.

"Price aside" works in fiction.
I see no reason why this car would be limited other than marketing and this makes it even less appealing to me.
Not sure why we are discussing my avatar in a BMW M4 thread.
I need to mention that I'm not a fan of the Maybach-CL or Maybach-G either.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Actually no, you open the car the normal way on the M4 GTS/CS. It's true for the GT3 if that's what you meant.

How can you possibly be confused as to what Sunny was responding to? It's perfectly clear.

I could be wrong - but aren't the door pulls used for both, opening and closing the doors on cars such as the GT3? Dual purpose = weight saving?

True.

 

[klier]

How can you possibly be confused as to what Sunny was responding to? It's perfectly clear.

Looks like it's possible, huh? Not everybody is as gifted as you are.

And next time don't respond if you have nothing whatsoever to add.

 

[Matski]

"Price aside" works in fiction.

Okay fine, you can disregard that portion of my statement - the answer is still the same, it'll be good for doing the things the M4 does, but (hopefully) better. I suspect the actual question was irrelevant though since you clearly were only using it as justification to take a derogatory swipe at those for whom the idea of buying the CS may only fiction for anyway - but still want to discuss its [potential] technical proficiency.

I see no reason why this car would be limited other than marketing and this makes it even less appealing to me.

Generally speaking I agree with you. When the parts catalogue becomes public it will very interesting to see what proportion of the car is actually unique and therefore if there's any real technical justification for the price - or if it is just limited to drive demand in spite of its price.

Not sure why we are discussing my avatar in a BMW M4 thread.

We weren't discussing your avatar, and the reason why I mentioned it was given in my post. Since you then identified precisely what I was referring to, I would have to say that mentioning it in the context of models that are limited to drive demand in spite of their price, was justified.

I need to mention that I'm not a fan of the Maybach-CL or Maybach-G either.

Again, generally speaking I agree with you, at least in principle. But, it's clearly a business model that works - and since it's probably less than 0.01% of fans that have to foot the bill, maybe it's not so bad - it gives us something to get passionate (or a boner) about.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

since you clearly were only using it as justification to take a derogatory swipe at those for whom the idea of buying the CS may only fiction for anyway

mini_cooper4 knows all about fiction.

http://www.germancarforum.com/threads/my-first-ferrari-the-458-italia.51482/

 

[Deleted member 25]

mhhh, is the surgeon guy still around too ?