X3/X4 BMW iX3

[dalab]

OUR CONCLUSION

You go out and realize that nothing was missing during the first test drive. The new BMW iX3 (2020) is an electric vehicle in which the driver does not complain about a lack of performance and is happy with a decent range. Despite its high weight, the electric SUV is quite agile and has decent comfort features. It was to be expected that those properties under the BMW logo were not available at a discounted rate. Buyers must be adequately solvent.

Neuer BMW iX3 (2020): Erste Testfahrt | autozeitung.de

Mit dem neuen BMW iX3 (2020) steht die elektrische Version des X3 in den Startlöchern. So lief die erste Testfahrt!

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[Matski]

 

[Rolf]

Range is better than E-tron and EQC while iX3 is better priced than these two, at least where I live. Good alternative for those who don’t like a duckfaced, poor quality Model Y.

Its not that much better priced in Germany and is slower in acceleration and only RWD compared to the EQC and E-tron. This car is a wasted opportunity for BMW. They following the same recipe on basing it on an existing platform that is not built from the ground up as an electric vehicle so has many compromises.

 

[hovabongZA]

It's getting better reviews than I had expected. Of this is anything to go by the INext wil be exceptional considering this is a half effort.

 

[Cashmere]

German pricing revealed for the iX3:

I am guestimating that the Made in Germany Model Y will probably cost around 55,000 to 57,000 Euro when it launches this year.

 

[klier]

Its not that much better priced in Germany and is slower in acceleration and only RWD compared to the EQC and E-tron. This car is a wasted opportunity for BMW. They following the same recipe on basing it on an existing platform that is not built from the ground up as an electric vehicle so has many compromises.

And the EQC is not? Or does having AWD magically change things? And the E-Tron, same story. Please....

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

And the EQC is not? Or does having AWD magically change things? And the E-Tron, same story. Please....

The idea of the shared platform was to keep the price low. And looking at the price, no success in this area can be celebrated.

 

[klier]

The idea of the shared platform was to keep the price low. And looking at the price, no success in this area can be celebrated.

A BMW is a premium product. What are you even saying? That BMW should price its cars like a Ford or VW?

The idea of the shared platform was because there was no other idea. No other platform, yet the wanted an electric car to be part of the cool guys. Pretty simple.

When iX comes to market, they will be able to scale that platform for different models, and the iX3 can be phased out. The X3 is relatively old to begin with. Still the best compact premium SUV out there btw

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

A BMW is a premium product

Not the brand determines whether a car is premium or not, but the substance. iX3 has no corners, because all of them are cut.

 

[Centurion]

German pricing revealed for the iX3:

I am guestimating that the Made in Germany Model Y will probably cost around 55,000 to 57,000 Euro when it launches this year.

Not cheap. It's biggest rivals won't necessarily be other EVs but the 330e and 320e.

The clincher will be the price difference between the hybrid and EV after discount. If the difference is 30%, some customers might struggle to buy the EV is the hybrids have more flexible options, body styles.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Not cheap. It's biggest rivals won't necessarily be other EVs but the 330e and 320e.

The clincher will be the price difference between the hybrid and EV after discount. If the difference is 30%, some customers might struggle to buy the EV is the hybrids have more flexible options, body styles.

The competitor of the model Y is the X3. 330e and 320e compete with the Model 3, which now costs 35 000 Euro, imported from China with the Lithium Iron Phosphate battery, that is good for 10 000 cycles of charging (LiIo 1 000 cycles only). The price is before the incentives.

 

[Centurion]

The competitor of the model Y is the X3. 330e and 320e compete with the Model 3, which now costs 35 000 Euro, imported from China with the Lithium Iron Phosphate battery, that is good for 10 000 cycles of charging (LiIo 1 000 cycles only). The price is before the incentives.

Ops. Got confused by Cashmere's post. I mistook it for pricing for the all electric 3-Series as I thought that German pricing for the X3 had already been revealed.

 

[klier]

Not the brand determines whether a car is premium or not, but the substance. iX3 has no corners, because all of them are cut.

Yeah whatever my man

 

[Rolf]

And the EQC is not? Or does having AWD magically change things? And the E-Tron, same story. Please....

They all a wasted opportunity but they used existing platforms to be able to brought to production quickly. Me personally I would rather spend the extra 4K and opt for a 545e PHEV saloon, it has a 60km Electric Range and a 800km petrol range so you getting the more convenient option for longer journeys. Plus massively faster performance as well

 

[David Brent]

They all a wasted opportunity but they used existing platforms to be able to brought to production quickly. Me personally I would rather spend the extra 4K and opt for a 545e PHEV saloon, it has a 60km Electric Range and a 800km petrol range so you getting the more convenient option for longer journeys.

You won't get anywhere close to 860km out of a 545e. Don't forget it has a smaller tank (46 litres) due to the batteries. One of the few drawbacks of my 330e is the limited range on long journeys, and therefore more frequent fill-ups. And that 60km range on battery you can forget at highway speeds. And once the battery is expired, the fuel only consumption will be higher than a ICE-only engine like a 530i. Based on my experience in my 330e Touring, in the 545e xDrive (only model available and 4WD will mean higher consumption), you will get around 35km from a full charge at 120km/h speeds, and then around 40 litres of fuel at 7.0 l/100km will give you 35km + 571km = 606km. At best.

Still better than a full electric BEV, but just wanted to make clear the reality.

 

[bimmer6]

German pricing revealed for the iX3:

I am guestimating that the Made in Germany Model Y will probably cost around 55,000 to 57,000 Euro when it launches this year.

The pricing has been out for months already.

Considering that Tesla doesn‘t offer any discounts the two cars should be very similar in price in the end.

 

[Centurion]

They all a wasted opportunity but they used existing platforms to be able to brought to production quickly. Me personally I would rather spend the extra 4K and opt for a 545e PHEV saloon, it has a 60km Electric Range and a 800km petrol range so you getting the more convenient option for longer journeys. Plus massively faster performance as well

This will be a dilemma for some. BMW's BEV cars are launching at a time when the brand's hybrid range is starting to look very compelling and meaningful electric only range.

 

[bimmer6]

This will be a dilemma for some. BMW's BEV cars are launching at a time when the brand's hybrid range is starting to look very compelling and meaningful electric only range.

Well you only think so till you‘ve actually driven a hybrid for a bit of time. We had a C 300e for a bit more than a month and before we got it I thought a hybrid might be the best out of both worlds.

Now I know it just a bad compromise and I would always go for a proper EV. The electric range at 5-10 degrees was at best close to 30 kilometers (something like 55 were promised). That‘s poor efficiency for an electric drivetrain and you don‘t get real highspeed charging in any hybrid yet, so the useful electric range is very limited.
Then they are very heavy and the trunk is considerably smaller. Electric driving was cool cause it was so comfortable, smooth and quiet but then the petrol engine would kick in sounding like a diesel tractor. So you’re enjoying driving all electric only to see the range diminishing quickly to then having to use the petrol engine which is just uncomfortable, noisy and polluting in comparison. For me it was a very unpleasing and stressful driving experience.
That‘s why would always opt for a BEV now if you don’t have to very long trips frequently. Hybrids are compliance cars to meet the CO2 thresholds and to ease the transition in the automotive industry. I‘m afraid they might even put most customers off electric cars cause of the poor experience with the electric range in most plug in hybrids.

 

[bimmer6]

Well you only think so till you‘ve actually driven a hybrid for a bit of time. We had a C 300e for a bit more than a month and before we got it I thought a hybrid might be the best out of both worlds.

Now I know it just a bad compromise and I would always go for a proper EV. The electric range at 5-10 degrees was at best close to 30 kilometers (something like 55 were promised). That‘s poor efficiency for an electric drivetrain and you don‘t get real highspeed charging in any hybrid yet, so the useful electric range is very limited.
Then they are very heavy and the trunk is considerably smaller. Electric driving was cool cause it was so comfortable, smooth and quiet but then the petrol engine would kick in sounding like a diesel tractor. So you’re enjoying driving all electric only to see the range diminishing quickly to then having to use the petrol engine which is just uncomfortable, noisy and polluting in comparison. For me it was a very unpleasing and stressful driving experience.
That‘s why would always opt for a BEV now if you don’t have to very long trips frequently. Hybrids are compliance cars to meet the CO2 thresholds and to ease the transition in the automotive industry. I‘m afraid they might even put most customers off electric cars cause of the poor experience with the electric range in most plug in hybrids.

oh and obviously maintenance costs for a BEV will be way lower.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Well you only think so till you‘ve actually driven a hybrid for a bit of time. We had a C 300e for a bit more than a month and before we got it I thought a hybrid might be the best out of both worlds.

Now I know it just a bad compromise and I would always go for a proper EV. The electric range at 5-10 degrees was at best close to 30 kilometers (something like 55 were promised). That‘s poor efficiency for an electric drivetrain and you don‘t get real highspeed charging in any hybrid yet, so the useful electric range is very limited.
Then they are very heavy and the trunk is considerably smaller. Electric driving was cool cause it was so comfortable, smooth and quiet but then the petrol engine would kick in sounding like a diesel tractor. So you’re enjoying driving all electric only to see the range diminishing quickly to then having to use the petrol engine which is just uncomfortable, noisy and polluting in comparison. For me it was a very unpleasing and stressful driving experience.
That‘s why would always opt for a BEV now if you don’t have to very long trips frequently. Hybrids are compliance cars to meet the CO2 thresholds and to ease the transition in the automotive industry. I‘m afraid they might even put most customers off electric cars cause of the poor experience with the electric range in most plug in hybrids.

The worst about hybrids is that the electric motor is very weak and there is nothing in common with the torque of a true EV. The electric drive is almost only cruising and slight acceleration and really creates a wrong impression about real EVs.