Concept BMW GINA Light Vision


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y' am VERY sad, first the M1 hommage, georgeous car but not for production, second, gina concept ligth bla bla bla, supercool staff, incredible car, but not for production.
almost 15 years waiting the real bmw supercar,
y'am very sad........................

sorry for my english.
 
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Maybe Z8, not Z4. We can pretty much see how the Z4's going to look. Long and narrow grille in sharkfin fashion.



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Neu ist GINA allerdings nicht. Das Visionsmodell enstand schon lange vor den aktuellen Z4-Modellen, die zahlreiche Produktionstechniken der Vision übernommen haben. BMW nutzt lediglich die Gunst der Stunde und kombiniert deren Coming-Out mit der Eröffnung des neuen Museums.

BMW GINA is freaking 10 years old....
I KNEW I was right about the looks of the interior. It's looking like that because it's very old. That's the sole reason.


Hey klier, I can't understand that text you quoted, but does it say that the design of the GINA is 10 years old, or just that 10 years ago BMW thought up the idea of 'a vehicle with skin and movable body parts' ?

If the design itself is 10 years old, well then that's just amazingly scary to think that cars which are about to debut in a matter of months were influenced from a concept created 10 years ago. How long has Bangle been at BMW? surely this had to have been done after he arrived, and I find it difficult to see that he could have caused such a huge shift in the way BMW thinks about their vehicles in just a matter of a few years.. :eusa_thin
 
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Hey klier, I can't understand that text you quoted, but does it say that the design of the GINA is 10 years old, or just that 10 years ago BMW thought up the idea of 'a vehicle with skin and movable body parts' ?

If the design itself is 10 years old, well then that's just amazingly scary to think that cars which are about to debut in a matter of months were influenced from a concept created 10 years ago. How long has Bangle been at BMW? surely this had to have been done after he arrived, and I find it difficult to see that he could have caused such a huge shift in the way BMW thinks about their vehicles in just a matter of a few years.. :eusa_thin
Bangle has been with BMW since the early 90s i believe..
i wonder, if the skin can be punctured or penetrated..from bangles explication it seems like the GINA has no sheet metal under the skin, is that correct?
 
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If the design itself is 10 years old, well then that's just amazingly scary to think that cars which are about to debut in a matter of months were influenced from a concept created 10 years ago. How long has Bangle been at BMW? surely this had to have been done after he arrived, and I find it difficult to see that he could have caused such a huge shift in the way BMW thinks about their vehicles in just a matter of a few years.. :eusa_thin


This concept is at least 6 years old. Perhaps even few years older.
IMO the concept was made in 1999 - 2000, when Warming (GINA, Z4 & Mille Miglia 2006 designer) was in present in Munich. At the times his Z4 design was chosen to go into production. Therefore GINA is influenced by Z4 lines.

Bangle has been at BMW since 1992.


GINA philosophy is very important for BMW - and that's the Bangle's brilliance.

GINA = being innovative, being flexible, thinking out of the box, challenging dogmas.

Btw, another official GINA movie - this time more about GINA philosophy itself:
 
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all i can say is ... WAW :|

IM IN LOVE WITH GINA!!!
 
Re: Officiall: BMW GINA Light Vision

Maybe Z8, not Z4. We can pretty much see how the Z4's going to look. Long and narrow grille in sharkfin fashion.



Auto Motor und Sport

Neu ist GINA allerdings nicht. Das Visionsmodell enstand schon lange vor den aktuellen Z4-Modellen, die zahlreiche Produktionstechniken der Vision übernommen haben. BMW nutzt lediglich die Gunst der Stunde und kombiniert deren Coming-Out mit der Eröffnung des neuen Museums.

BMW GINA is freaking 10 years old....
I KNEW I was right about the looks of the interior. It's looking like that because it's very old. That's the sole reason.

The text here says that the Concept was created long before the ACTUAL Z4, who took several production processes of Gina. BMW only presented Gina now because of the opening of the Museum...


Absolutely incredible. This is a stunning Concept. :bowdown: I don't remember any Concept Car that impressed me as much as GINA, honestly.
 
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When you guys say that the concept is 10 years old, you mean all the concept or only the cloth skin technology (with updated exterior design)?
 
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When you guys say that the concept is 10 years old, you mean all the concept or only the cloth skin technology (with updated exterior design)?

I do think the exterior design has been updated, but the interior sure hasn't, and the cloth tech is probably old too....fantastic they are able to keep things like this secret for as long as they want.
 
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When you guys say that the concept is 10 years old, you mean all the concept or only the cloth skin technology (with updated exterior design)?


Check the "at work" pics from the design studio - where Bangle, Warming & Plath are much younger than today. According to this fact the GINA was made in early 2000's or even earlier!

:t-cheers:

Gina has been an inspiration for BMW designers & engineers for several years - influencing the design of all current (and future) BMWs.
But I guess they moved on, and decided to finally show GINA to the general public.

It's kind a retrograde communication about flame surfacing. Something it should had been done in the early 2000's already.
But I guess the found GINA a bit to radical for that time - remember reactions on x-coupe or Z4.
Or even more possible: the designer didn't want to let GINA out of the FIZ - since it was their muse. Influencing many concepts, and production models.

So ... the decision on showing GINA to general public makes me think they have something newer in the design studios as a muse. Some new radical concept which will influence BMW designs in the next years (eg. new 3er and further).

A jelly car, perhaps? :D Made of gel, or some sort of foam? Remember the neoprene interior from CS1 concept?

A transparent car with energy fields as a skin? :D:D:D

A self-growing alive bionic car? :t-hands: Kind-a car-animal, or car-plant? BMW as bio-gene-mechanic leaders? :D

***

Really ... if GINA is really 6-10 years old ... what the creepy tech & design concept they had in the FIZ right now. :eusa_thin
 
Re: Officiall: BMW GINA Light Vision

Maybe Z8, not Z4. We can pretty much see how the Z4's going to look. Long and narrow grille in sharkfin fashion.



Auto Motor und Sport

Neu ist GINA allerdings nicht. Das Visionsmodell enstand schon lange vor den aktuellen Z4-Modellen, die zahlreiche Produktionstechniken der Vision übernommen haben. BMW nutzt lediglich die Gunst der Stunde und kombiniert deren Coming-Out mit der Eröffnung des neuen Museums.

BMW GINA is freaking 10 years old....
I KNEW I was right about the looks of the interior. It's looking like that because it's very old. That's the sole reason.
The use of flexible textiles stretched over a 'skeletal' structure is not a new idea ....but it makes sense that this is an old concept. We can now clearly see where the inspiration for BMW's 'flame-surfacing' styling has come from.
 
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We can now clearly see where the inspiration for BMW's 'flame-surfacing' styling has come from.

Exactly... I remember reading about the E60 5er when it was released, and it talked about how the designer of the vehicle was inspired by Zepplin airships especially in terms of how the material was stretched over the skeletal frame.

Just a question for the BMW and designer buffs.... was it Bangle himself that brough the 'flame surfacing' style to BMW, or did other BMW designers such as van Hooydink (spelling?), Warming and others already believe in this flame surfacing idea and Bangle was just brought in to further enhance this design philosphy into production?

I ask this because it has been Bangle who's been given nearly all the blame/praise (depending on which side of the proverbial fence you view him) for BMW's new design direction...but has it been all Bangle's inspiration and forward-thinking ideologies which have then influenced other BMW designers around him, or have all the BMW designers just had the same vision and design style?

:t-hands:
 
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Exactly... I remember reading about the E60 5er when it was released, and it talked about how the designer of the vehicle was inspired by Zepplin airships especially in terms of how the material was stretched over the skeletal frame.

Just a question for the BMW and designer buffs.... was it Bangle himself that brough the 'flame surfacing' style to BMW, or did other BMW designers such as van Hooydink (spelling?), Warming and others already believe in this flame surfacing idea and Bangle was just brought in to further enhance this design philosphy into production?

I ask this because it has been Bangle who's been given nearly all the blame/praise (depending on which side of the proverbial fence you view him) for BMW's new design direction...but has it been all Bangle's inspiration and forward-thinking ideologies which have then influenced other BMW designers around him, or have all the BMW designers just had the same vision and design style?

:t-hands:
I do believe that BMW has looked very closely at avant garde art, especially from the early 20th century, for inspiration.

The Italian Futurists of the first two decades of last century were inspired by Machines, industrialism, noise, dynamism, speed, aggression, violence, and destruction.

Although today, we appreciate the beauty of the work of Giacomo Balla and Umberto Boccioni, the extreme radicalism of the Futurists is often overlooked.

Futurism was not just an art movement, it was an entire philosophy for the complete social reform of Italy (and Europe). They instigated change through violence, revolution, and war. In fact it was extremely right wing and gave rise to the Fascists in Italy. They wanted to destroy the remnants of the past and replace it with a new "Machine Age".

However, this love affair with machines and technology has been an inspiration for artists, writers, composers, architects, and philosophers ever since.

There is a clear correlation between BMW's dynamic, aggressive styling and Italian Futurism.

Umberto Boccioni, Footballer, 1913.
 
From the official Press Release:

"Successful design arouses desire. In order to achieve this, it is more crucial than ever before that car manufacturers create the conditions that allow customers to establish a close relationship with their cars."

Therefore, designers seek ways to promote and intensify people’s identification with their car that reach beyond pure aesthetics. In the premium segment in particular, customers demand cars that stir emotions and allow them to express their individuality.

An innovative concept introduced by BMW Group Design prepares the ground for this new approach: the GINA (Geometry and Functions In “N” Adaptions) principle grants more freedom for car design.

It allows the creation of products with a design and functional range that express individuality and meet the wide variety of requirements of those who are using them.

In the 21st century, customers approach their purchasing decision with a high degree of assertiveness, clearly defined requirements and subjective conceptions – particularly when it comes to selecting their means of transport.

In recent years, the interests and priorities that motivated them have changed and, more importantly, they have become considerably more diversified.

This development will continue in the future. Today, the BMW Group is already responding to the highly diversified range of customer requirements and heightened expectations by providing services such as a substantially more varied product range, ever increasing possibilities for personalization and requirement-oriented production among others.

Future customer requirements
By introducing the GINA philosophy, BMW Group Design presents ways of meeting these challenges in the future.
The philosophy expresses the readiness and ability of BMW Group Design to consider individual customer requirements as an integral part of car development.

Christopher E. Bangle, Head of BMW Group Design, speaks with conviction when he says: “Personal customer requirements will broaden the context of our products and change the core values that define our industry along the way.”

For more than ten years now, these issues have inspired Bangle’s ideas. Time and time again, these ideas have been motivating the BMW Group Design team

to break new ground and to find pioneering solutions. These results have spawned new customer expectations which in turn inspires designers to develop further innovations.

GINA: Geometry and Functions In “N” Adaptions
The GINA philosophy offers designers as well as development and production specialists an opportunity to challenge existing principles and conventional processes. Solutions that will benefit the car of the future are examined without predefined rules and from as many perspectives as possible.

This also involves questioning what is believed to be set in stone. Does a car roof really have to rest on pillars and be bordered by windows? Do all functions have to be visible at all times, even when they are not needed? How many personalization options does my car offer? Are there any possible alternatives to the rigid body shell made of steel or plastic?

Questions like these lead to groundbreaking, cross-segmental solutions - and visions of the future of individual mobility. An essential principle of the GINA philosophy is to deliberately integrate the potential of new materials and pioneering, innovative constructions into the creative design process, and the idea of challenging existing manufacturing methods and material concepts.

BMW Group DesignworksUSA, a subsidiary of the BMW Group that operates globally and caters to companies across the industry, has greatly inspired the design team at BMW Group Design.

The design agency’s extensive experience with projects for a number of industrial partners outside of automotive engineering, predominantly in the field of material development and production.

It is in the nature of such visions that they do not necessarily claim to be suitable for series production. Rather, they are intended to steer creativity and research into new directions.

This approach helps to tap into formerly inconceivable, innovative potential that reaches far beyond the appearance of future cars and takes into account not only materials and structures but also functions and manufacturing processes. The potential requirements of tomorrow’s customers serve as a benchmark. In addition to aesthetics, the GINA philosophy also deals with ergonomics, the functional range and all other factors that rule customers’ emotional relationship with their car.

With the development of the GINA Light Visionary Model, the BMW Group presents examples of visionary solutions. For the first time, exemplary adaptations of various approaches described by the GINA philosophy are brought to life to illustrate the potential impact of this concept on the future of automotive engineering.

The limits of current material properties and manufacturing processes are projected far into the future.

All innovations that these cars present focus on the variable adaptation of form and function based on individual and situation-related driver requirements as well as the demands of the driving situation itself.

Therefore, both the exterior and the interior are equipped with a variety of components that differ significantly from conventional solutions, not only by the way they look but also in terms of their basic properties. For example, the GINA Light Visionary Model presents features such as a virtually seamless outer skin made of a textile fabric that stretches across a moveable substructure. Functions are only offered if and when they are actually required.

The drastic re-interpretation of familiar functionality and structure means that drivers have a completely new experience when they handle their car. Reducing the car to its essentials and adapting it to the driver’s requirements enhances the car’s emotional impact and achieves a crucial objective of the GINA philosophy.

Innovative concepts
The strategy of challenging what is established, exploring new possibilities and focusing on customer demands and requirements has inspired the BMW Group to implement a wide variety of innovative concepts. It has also affected the design of production cars.

A wide range of innovations that have been acclaimed for their virtually revolutionary character is actually based on the GINA philosophy. On the way from vision to production model, visionary ideas have been turned into new concepts.

Both the sculptural design presented by the BMW X Coupé concept car, for example, and the interplay of convex-concave surfaces that has affected the design of all production vehicles, are derived from visions with an innovative power.

This power is generated by the unrestricted freedom that characterizes the quest for wider design possibilities. In the example mentioned above, the natural material properties of the outer skin have been deliberately incorpo-rated into the design process.

The design process has integrated the twisted surfaces and has used the specific sculptural aesthetics of the convex-concave elements that are created by the material's reaction.

The design of the BMW Z4, which has been modeled on the BMW X Coupé concept car, is a striking example.

These visions could only be implemented because of the development of completely new manufacturing technologies. As before, the objectives defined by the GINA philosophy have been achieved thanks to the special expertise of production engineers and their ability to move beyond traditional methods.

Their effort has allowed the creation of a form language that has not only significantly enhanced aesthetic standards and the significance of design as an expression of product substance, but also the manufacturing processes themselves.

Versatility in function and form
Some of the pioneering visions that are based on the GINA philosophy have also been implemented in the interior design of concept cars such as the BMW CS1 concept car of 2002.

This car’s interior is equipped with control and functional elements that become visible only if and when the driver wishes to avail of them. Thanks to a flexible, Neoprene-covered instrument panel, the driver’s attention can focus on the required functions.

This situation-oriented variability of form and function invites the driver to engage in a dialogue with his car. Using these functions, the driver experiences an emotional reaction.

This is caused by the fact that he can adapt the car’s appearance to suit his personal wishes. In this application, the intelligent deployment of flexible material dispenses with the need for complex mechanical features. At the same time, the versatile appearance has a natural aesthetic appeal.

The control concept iDrive, first demonstrated by the BMW Z9 and refined in the BMW CS1 concept car has long since become established as part of BMW production models.

It is a perfect enhancement to the spirit of the GINA philosophy, as it is guided by the principle of displaying only those functions to the driver that are relevant to the individual driving situation.

The cockpit adjusts to the driver’s needs. As he handles the car by interacting with it, the driver forms a strong emotional bond.

Integration of functions
It is one of the GINA principles to challenge existing solutions in order to broaden the context, thus extending the scope of possibilities for customers.

In the engine compartment of the BMW CS1 concept car, the engine cover has been replaced by flexible stretch material.

A graphical display panel provides information on the particular arrangement of the service functions, integrated zip fasteners facilitate easy, hands-on access to the filler caps of the cooling water and wiper water tanks.

A number of functions – cover, orientation and access to service points – are integrated into one component in a logical and attractive manner.

This deliberately minimalist approach to the deployment of components is an active contribution to the protection of resources.

Rapid Manufacturing
As a result of our interdisciplinary cooperation, we have developed a method that allows manufacturers to decorate outer skin components that have been preformed by conventional methods with individually configured high-precision contour lines prior to their reintegration into the manufacturing process.

The GINA design philosophy has been applied to Rapid Manufacturing to create an unparalleled method of manufacturing single components fast, cost-efficiently and with a focus on individual requirements.

This combination of processes was first used during the production of hoods for the BMW Z4 M Roadster and the BMW Z4 M Coupé.

These models received their distinctive contour lines at a separate production stage which differed significantly from conventional sheet metal processing.

The lines were embossed into the hood with pin-point precision by a robot-guided steel pin. This approach allows for entirely new ways of individualized production.

With Rapid Manufacturing, customer preferences can be implemented when car body elements and other components are designed to the specifications of designers.

Materials and manufacturing processes
The cockpit surface of the BMW Concept Coupé Mille Miglia 2006, which has been influenced by the technology of industrial origami, is another example of vision-based, revolutionary design. It has produced solutions that reflect several guiding principles of the GINA Philosophy.

The number of components is significantly reduced compared to conventional cockpits while completely new methods of combining different materials have provided valuable stimulation for the conception of innovative production technologies.

The manufacturing process has deliberately relied on the expertise and technical skills of highly-qualified specialists, whose competence is a prerequisite for the practical implementation of design visions.

The exterior design of concept cars also reflects innovative concepts resulting from the practical implementation of visionary ideas.

Both the sculptural design presented by the BMW X Coupé concept car, for example, and the interplay of convex-concave surfaces that has affected the design of all produc-tion vehicles (introduced for the first time in the Z4), are derived from visions with an innovative power.

This power is generated by the unrestricted freedom that characterizes the quest for wider design possibilities. The design deliberately uses the interplay of splines as character lines and the natural flow of stretched convex-concave surfaces

The designer’s metal processing ideas for the interior of the BMW Mille Miglia Concept Coupé were inspired by the traditional Japanese art of paper folding.

An inherently stable, three-dimensional structure was created from twodimensional V2A sheets of metal by means of a special laser cutting and folding processes.

This technique produced joints which were strategically employed for integrating ventilation functions into the cockpit without the need for additional elements. The result was an innovative solution with a natural aesthetic appeal that was produced with a minimum amount of tools.

The GINA principle: sustainable solutions
The GINA philosophy objective also includes the quest for sustainability on different levels. The search for new materials and production technologies favors solutions that work with less raw material and energy.

A minimalist approach to the use of components and production stages yields ecological and economic benefits. As part of our endeavor to create social sustainability, we are looking for production methods that rely on the expertise of highly qualified specialists instead of expensive manufacturing tools.

With its goal-oriented research into new materials, the assessment of production processes without tools such as Rapid Manufacturing and the incentive to incessantly challenge existing solutions, the BMW Group is already equipped with a variety of tools that bring the implementation of the GINA philosophy to life for the customer.

Research objects such as the GINA Light Visionary Model demonstrate that the principles of the GINA philosophy grant designers maximum freedom for approaching their subject with visionary thinking. This approach is used for finding solutions that offer customers new possibilities of adapting forms and functions to suit a variety of personal requirements and the driving situation in hand.

They pave the way for innovative ideas that can be implemented in concept cars in order to stimulate series production.

This way, visions can create products that allow drivers to interact with their vehicle in ways that reach far beyond the conventional individualization potential established thus far.

The GINA philosophy allows BMW Group Design to support and steadily enhance this interaction and help drivers build a strong emotional relationship with their car. With its sensible and careful use of resources for products and their development, the GINA principle contributes to the sustainability of future car generations. After all, the social significance of the GINA philosophy is a product of its heightened application of social aspects both to the development processes and to the conscious reflection of customer requirements.

(from BMW)
 
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Just a question for the BMW and designer buffs.... was it Bangle himself that brough the 'flame surfacing' style to BMW, or did other BMW designers such as van Hooydink (spelling?), Warming and others already believe in this flame surfacing idea and Bangle was just brought in to further enhance this design philosphy into production?

I ask this because it has been Bangle who's been given nearly all the blame/praise (depending on which side of the proverbial fence you view him) for BMW's new design direction...but has it been all Bangle's inspiration and forward-thinking ideologies which have then influenced other BMW designers around him, or have all the BMW designers just had the same vision and design style? :t-hands:


Bangle is not the ultimate decision maker regarding the design within BMW Group. Mind there are people from strategic design department (who research future tastes & trends), people from Advanced Design Studio who create new trends & ideas, there is chief of Development (part of which the Design department is), and there is the Board of Management which is responsible to giving green light to the final decisions.

The greatest Bangle's contribution is he is an extraordinary motivator, very open-minded person who thinks out-of-the box, great manager, a philosopher with a vision. He was able to revive the BMW design department - and that was the aim when he was brought to BMW in 1992.

Regarding GINA: Bangle gave non-automotive designers from DesignWorks a task to design a car: to get the ideas how a non-automotive designers would design a car. I'm sure many ideas were presented, but the "flame surfacing" one was ultimately chosen as the right one. Remember - BMW decided in mid-90's to go avant-garde with the design, and I guess Bangle (and others) convinced the Management Board to go with flame surfacing.

I guess that was the upcoming trend ... Mind Fiat Centro Stile designers were keen on sharp creases with convex/concave surfaces: therefore Alfa Romeo got such design, and Seat as well (after W da Silva came to Seat from AR), and BMW as well after Bangle came from Fiat etc.

I'm sure without Bangle BMW would be on Lexus level of design today ... Of course he has got a clear vision, got the support from other departmets (like Strategic & Advanced design departments), and was able to convinced Management Board (and the Development chief in particulary) to start a design revolution.

:t-cheers:


Again: Bangle is a great leader with a vision ... he is able to get the best from the Designers, and to motivate other departments to cooperate, and influence & persuade the bosses to take a risk, and pick a specific design direction.

Think of him as of a creative motor of BMW AG.


:t-cheers:
 
While I'm sure it's possible that GINA or similar has been a citizen of designworks for a long while, the detailing on this concept plants it clearly in the present (the interior, however, looks like its from a CS1-era brainstorm). I'd have a hard time believing that this specific design was birthed any more than 3 years ago.

The wide CS-like grille, sophisticated flame sculpting and aggressive, "leery" headlights tell us that GINA is definitely a post E65-generation composition. What's exciting is that all these details are a bellwether for the forthcoming Z4, and from what we've already seen in camo'ed spy shots, we can count in it having a great deal in common with this concept.

If you take a look back at BMW's X-Coupe showcar it's impressive how far the flame surfacing agenda has advanced itself in such a relatively short time. It has gone from something funky, challenging and disruptive to something mature, resolved and engaging. I'm really excited about this next "evolutionary" generation of BMWs, because they're taking themes that were difficult to swallow 5 years ago and, in some ways, are cranking them up to the next level.

If GINA is any indication, the next Z4 is going to be brutally gorgeous and will reset the bar for curb appeal in its segment.
 
A car that looks as if it is alive...while growing up I always thought this would be cool (hence my love for Transformers), actually watching the video and seeing these pics leave me with a different feeling.

If I saw this car in production on a late night, and the owner just happened to have some Comfort Access system to make the car open its eyes and start blinking....



...You're absolutely sure this thing won't start talking back to me?
 
Had to look again.

I keep getting goosebumps. I blame it on the the dark ('tis nightfall where I am, and awfully quiet).

This is going to take some getting used to--
 

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