3 Series (G20) BMW G20 3 Series LCI - First Official Pics!

[Jacke]

 

[Titot]

So G20 is going to be the last official ICE 3 series. EOP extension and second scheduled refresh tells it all...

How was BMW able to make a case to renew next-gen ICE models for X3-X7 alongside EV counterparts, but not for their best selling global model 3 Series?

I wonder if the New Klasse 3 Series: NA0 Limousine and NA1 Touring are going to offer a couple of Gasoline/Petrol Plug-in Hybrids. For example: 340e, 350e or even M360e.

 

[Jacke]

Best facelifted version of any BMW lately?

 

[martinbo]

Best facelifted version of any BMW lately?

From the front, absolutely. But from the rear the M-Sport bumper is a bit of an eyesore.

 

[klier]

Stay tuned for an article on that

NA0 sedan, NA1 Touring

Neue Klasse

?

 

[leylandi]

I wonder if the New Klasse 3 Series: NA0 Limousine and NA1 Touring are going to offer a couple of Gasoline/Petrol Plug-in Hybrids. For example: 340e, 350e or even M360e.

electric only

 

[klier]

electric only

I don't think so. Neue Klasse will have ICE too. When NK comes out, the EU has 10 years left to sell ICE cars, and I am pretty damn sure the legacy makers will all have ICE until it's not allowed anymore (2035 in the EU)

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

I don't think so. Neue Klasse will have ICE too. When NK comes out, the EU has 10 years left to sell ICE cars, and I am pretty damn sure the legacy makers will all have ICE until it's not allowed anymore (2035 in the EU)

BMW said 'electric first'. Which IMO means that there will be some hybrid versions too.

 

[Titot]

BMW said 'electric first'. Which IMO means that there will be some hybrid versions too.

Two different drivetrains-powertrains of the next M3: one M3 P.H.E.V. and another M3 B.E.V. under the same bodies-platforms?

 

[leylandi]

BMW said 'electric first'. Which IMO means that there will be some hybrid versions too.

The Neue Klasse architecture has been promised for some time now, with a handful of rumours or reports over that time invariably ending up mistaken.
For example, during the earnings call, Zipse responded to a reporter who repeated the previously reported belief that the Neue Klasse would be used for several drivetrain options.
However, according to Zipse, this has never been the case, and the Neue Klasse has always been a battery electric vehicle (BEV) only architecture.
In announcing that the Neue Klasse architecture will debut on future 3-Series electric models, Zipse also put to rest any rumours that the architecture will be used on earlier vehicles, such as the i4.

BMW to debut electric Neue Klasse platform on 3-Series in 2025

BMW confirms pure electric “Neue Klasse” architecture in 2025 will debut on next-generation 3-Series line-up.

thedriven.io

 

[leylandi]

That's why the G20's lifespan has been extended. Since BMW thinks it will be premature, it will not use this platform in models such as the new X3. It will continue the current strategy. They will continue on the ICE-based CLAR platform.

 

[leylandi]

BMW will initially focus its Neue Klasse (New Class) architecture on full-electric models for the midsize premium segment, CEO Oliver Zipse said.

The platform, which will go into production in 2025 at the automaker’s new factory in Hungary, will only offer a battery-electric drivetrain, Zipse said during the automaker’s first-quarter earnings call on Thursday.

"When it hits the market, it will be concentrated on the 3-Series segment and at that point in time the market will have developed into a size where it is reasonable to have only one drivetrain in that architecture," Zipse said.

Zipse's comments highlight BMW's change in thinking at the automaker about the architecture, which originally had been planned to be fully electric but also underpin cars with gasoline and diesel internal combustion engines, including plug-in hybrids.

BMW said at the IAA Munich auto show in September that the Neue Klasse would be electric-only.

On Thursday, Zipse said the architecture will be "mainly focused on the middle car (midsize) segment. It does not cover from the lower segments all the way to the luxury segments," he said.

However, after its initial launch on midsize cars, BMW plans to expand the architecture's use for all-electric cars in other segments.
"The Neue Klasse starts with models from the middle car segment, but of course there is more to come," a BMW spokesman told Automotive News Europe. "The Neue Klasse is our model range for the future – from the high-volume segment to exclusive high-performance models," the spokesman said.

The strategy shift to use the platform only on full-electric midsize models will allow BMW to keep combustion engines for longer on larger models.

BMW is launching a new generation of its 7-Series flagship sedan this year with plug-in hybrid, diesel and gasoline drivetrains, and a full-electric variant badged as the i7.

Zipse said on the earnings call that BMW aimed to hit cumulative sales of 2 million full-electric cars by 2025 on its way to a target of having half its sales being electric-only by 2030.

"We are doing everything we can to meet this goal earlier," he said.

The Neue Klasse platform will play "a crucial part" in the ramp up of EV sales for the company, Zipse said: “It represents a quantum leap in technology."

The architecture will have the automaker’s next-generation electric drivetrain “with more output, new cell chemistry and new cell formats,” Zipse said.

Zipse's clarification that the platform will be reserved only for battery-electric vehicles (BEV) was noted by analysts at Deutsche Bank.
"We view it as positive that BMW says that from 2025 onward the Neue Klasse will be BEV only, while a lot of market participants had so far understood it was BEV first," the bank wrote in a note to investors.

 

[bmwblog]

NA0 sedan, NA1 Touring

Neue Klasse

?

That's what it looks like. NA5 for X3, NA6 X4

 

[bmwblog]

electric only

We hear there will be 3 Series ICE models also, on CLAR. But unclear which variants...so all speculations so far. They are still early in the development process, from what I hear.

 

[Titot]

We hear there will be 3 Series ICE models also, on CLAR. But unclear which variants...so all speculations so far. They are still early in the development process, from what I hear.

I wonder what is the new project code name for the next the CLAR 3 Series, is it going to contain a 'G' letter at the beginning, or is it moving forward to the 'H' instead?

 

[bmwblog]

I wonder what is the new project code name for the next the CLAR 3 Series, is it going to contain a 'G' letter at the beginning, or is it moving forward to the 'H' instead?

G45 is the next X3. So likely stays on G. Again, not confirmed by anyone at BMW. Just my assumption.

 

[Titot]

G45 is the next X3. So likely stays on G. Again, not confirmed by anyone at BMW. Just my assumption.

My guess is G40 for the Limousine and G41 for the Touring. Another prediction (choice) is G50 and G51.

 

[Giannis]

BMW will initially focus its Neue Klasse (New Class) architecture on full-electric models for the midsize premium segment, CEO Oliver Zipse said.

The platform, which will go into production in 2025 at the automaker’s new factory in Hungary, will only offer a battery-electric drivetrain, Zipse said during the automaker’s first-quarter earnings call on Thursday.

"When it hits the market, it will be concentrated on the 3-Series segment and at that point in time the market will have developed into a size where it is reasonable to have only one drivetrain in that architecture," Zipse said.

Zipse's comments highlight BMW's change in thinking at the automaker about the architecture, which originally had been planned to be fully electric but also underpin cars with gasoline and diesel internal combustion engines, including plug-in hybrids.

BMW said at the IAA Munich auto show in September that the Neue Klasse would be electric-only.

On Thursday, Zipse said the architecture will be "mainly focused on the middle car (midsize) segment. It does not cover from the lower segments all the way to the luxury segments," he said.

However, after its initial launch on midsize cars, BMW plans to expand the architecture's use for all-electric cars in other segments.
"The Neue Klasse starts with models from the middle car segment, but of course there is more to come," a BMW spokesman told Automotive News Europe. "The Neue Klasse is our model range for the future – from the high-volume segment to exclusive high-performance models," the spokesman said.

The strategy shift to use the platform only on full-electric midsize models will allow BMW to keep combustion engines for longer on larger models.

BMW is launching a new generation of its 7-Series flagship sedan this year with plug-in hybrid, diesel and gasoline drivetrains, and a full-electric variant badged as the i7.

Zipse said on the earnings call that BMW aimed to hit cumulative sales of 2 million full-electric cars by 2025 on its way to a target of having half its sales being electric-only by 2030.

"We are doing everything we can to meet this goal earlier," he said.

The Neue Klasse platform will play "a crucial part" in the ramp up of EV sales for the company, Zipse said: “It represents a quantum leap in technology."

The architecture will have the automaker’s next-generation electric drivetrain “with more output, new cell chemistry and new cell formats,” Zipse said.

Zipse's clarification that the platform will be reserved only for battery-electric vehicles (BEV) was noted by analysts at Deutsche Bank.
"We view it as positive that BMW says that from 2025 onward the Neue Klasse will be BEV only, while a lot of market participants had so far understood it was BEV first," the bank wrote in a note to investors.

@leylandi

You copy/pasted a whole article. Please provide a link or reference to the original source!

 

[Serpens]

@leylandi

You copy/pasted a whole article. Please provide a link or reference to the original source!

To his defense, he did so two posts up. I don't think him not posting the link a second time was intentional.

 

[klier]

It was a very interesting read too! I am very happy to read Neue Klasse won't be compromised with ICE after all. You can't mix them if you want to do it properly!

Zipse's clarification that the platform will be reserved only for battery-electric vehicles (BEV) was noted by analysts at Deutsche Bank.

"We view it as positive that BMW says that from 2025 onward the Neue Klasse will be BEV only, while a lot of market participants had so far understood it was BEV first," the bank wrote in a note to investors.