3 Series (F30) BMW F34 3er GT: Spy Pics - Renders - Info

[klier]

Did the 5 GT take away potential customers for the 5 er wagon or the X5? Did it attract a new group of customers to BMW?

Probably both, and it is impossible to tell.

 

[EnI]

Did the 5 GT take away potential customers for the 5 er wagon or the X5? Did it attract a new group of customers to BMW?

Total global sales figures indicate no influence of 5er GT introduction on X5, X6, 5er Touring & 7er sales performance. Yet I guess that can be issue in some specific markets but I have no data to prove that. Sorry.

 

[SKY]

God... What an enormous amount of crap. At least the 5er GT, when you forget the ugly shape, has some very nice design details, as the front end and the rear lights. But this doesn´t look any good.

 

[EnI]

New spy photos ... interior exposed: http://www.motorauthority.com/pictu...es-gran-turismo-spy-shots_gallery-1#100400268

 

[SKY]

Lol at those pics. Specially the one of the rear door panel.

 

[EnI]

Lol at those pics. Specially the one of the rear door panel.

Please elaborate.

 

[SKY]

Please elaborate.

Do you think the black, shiny plastic part that is in the area of the seat belt can be found in a luxury car? Then there´s the lower part of the door, which screams cheap too, and in the design area, the tiny peace of trim across the door is laughable. If you don´t want to spend in money in trim insertions, just in in other nice feature. The tiny size of some trim insertions just gives me the impression of cheapness. Same goes for the F30 3er rear door panel (a few other members said it as well when the car was introduced).

The other day I was in the rear part of a Golf VI and it gave me a much much better impression than this 3er GT.

 

[PHYBENZ]

I am assuming those shiny plastic pieces are in their production material, or at least I would hope not.

 

[rollo]

This interior is not even close to being finished, come on guys.

On another note, the 3er GT looks much better than the 5er GT to these eyes.

 

[Hofmeister]

I think BMW should just give up on this "GT" crack, I think a sub-1000KG Z2 roadster/coupe would be far more appreciated

 

[Levi68]

I think BMW should just give up on this "GT" crack, I think a sub-1000KG Z2 roadster/coupe would be far more appreciated

By whom? But will it sell? No, because most would prefer to buy a GT instead of a Z.

 

[Hofmeister]

By whom? But will it sell? No, because most would prefer to buy a GT instead of a Z.

The GT and proposed Z2 are completely different target markets, the Z2 would be appreciated by enthusiasts and BMW loyalists and diehards

 

[Levi68]

The GT and proposed Z2 are completely different target markets, the Z2 would be appreciated by enthusiasts and BMW loyalists and diehards

There are unfortunately not enough enthusiasts to justify Z2 production. The Z2 was announced 6 years ago, the FT86 4 years ago. Today you can buy the GT86, the Z2 is not even in the pipeline.

 

[deity]

Let me tell you what you don't want. You don't want a BMW who is so interested in making these "z2's" and "sub-1000kg roadsters" for the enthusiasts (many of which don't actually buy these cars btw; only for them to look at the pictures with glazed eyes) and forgetting who their ACTUAL market is. Then quality goes down, sales goes down, reputation goes down, brand image goes down, and the next thing you know, VAG owns BMW. I'm sorry, but this is just the reality for EVERY business in the world right now.

That's what you don't want.

 

[Levi68]

Let me tell you what you don't want. You don't want a BMW who is so interested in making these "z2's" and "sub-1000kg roadsters" for the enthusiasts (many of which don't actually buy these cars btw; only for them to look at the pictures with glazed eyes) and forgetting who their ACTUAL market is. Then quality goes down, sales goes down, reputation goes down, brand image goes down, and the next thing you know, VAG owns BMW. I'm sorry, but this is just the reality for EVERY business in the world right now.

That's what you don't want.

Yes, and that is why there is more chance of seeing an M1 successor that very few will be able to afford than a Z1 successor that more will be able to afford but won't buy, because the "M1" will make more profit than the "Z2" and make more potential buyers desire a BMW. In case of TOYOTA, there are too extremities, the GT86 which is too low-cost and underpowered and the LFA that is too expensive and underperforming for its price tag.

 

[EnI]

Guys, that's a 3er GT thread ... your're going off topic again. Debate about (im/)proper BMW product strategy is located in some other thread, I believe.

 

[deity]

We're talking about the relevancy of the 3GT and at this point this is the only thread we have to talk about in...but okay

 

[Human]

Do you think the black, shiny plastic part that is in the area of the seat belt can be found in a luxury car? Then there´s the lower part of the door, which screams cheap too, and in the design area, the tiny peace of trim across the door is laughable. If you don´t want to spend in money in trim insertions, just in in other nice feature. The tiny size of some trim insertions just gives me the impression of cheapness. Same goes for the F30 3er rear door panel (a few other members said it as well when the car was introduced).

The other day I was in the rear part of a Golf VI and it gave me a much much better impression than this 3er GT.

Mmmm...good points and worrying indeed. To obvious also IMO. I am actually lost for words and expect a miracle and dream that this is just pre-production phase...

 

[SCOTT27]

Of course its pre-production. These are the first FEP prototypes and as we get down to the countdown not only as the prototype stages decrease but also the Concept car due (start counting days) will reveal how the finished 3er Gran Turismo will look. The production car will be launched before the end of the year with the public premiere scheduled alongside the
BMW M3 Concept at Geneva 2013. Sales begin shortly after.

Keen Cape Townians or Swakopmunders in South Africa could spot the cars (Three lines remember) this month as it undergoes its film and photography shoot.

 

[south]

Sorry for getting OT but there will be no M3 Concept at Geneva 2013. Just saying.


Best regards,
south