3 Series (F30) BMW F34 3er GT: Spy Pics - Renders - Info

[SCOTT27]

ah , When you think of it. The new 3er has rewritten the rules for the segment. 3er GT will bring a new level of luxury similar to the 5er GT in the 3er segment, which no one has any complaints from the inside of the 5er GT.
Aswell as the rewritten rules for dynamics and handling plus customers will be able to get the 3er GT with four cylinder petrol and diesel engines.

 

[bmwblog]

ah , When you think of it. The new 3er has rewritten the rules for the segment. 3er GT will bring a new level of luxury similar to the 5er GT in the 3er segment, which no one has any complaints from the inside of the 5er GT.
Aswell as the rewritten rules for dynamics and handling plus customers will be able to get the 3er GT with four cylinder petrol and diesel engines.

we'll see, but in the mean time, the 5GT is still an ugly looking BMW that should have never come to market. Pretty sure that even BMW knows that now. It sold well in the US cause the dealerships are giving them away

 

[K-A]

I don't think they're selling even remotely well in the U.S. Dealers can't even seem to give them away. Most of the time you go to a BMW Dealer you see a 5 GT that's literally collecting dust, been sitting there forever, etc.

 

[bmwblog]

I don't think they're selling even remotely well in the U.S. Dealers can't even seem to give them away. Most of the time you go to a BMW Dealer you see a 5 GT that's literally collecting dust, been sitting there forever, etc.

Allow me to rephrase: selling better than 5 Wagon but only cause there are huge discounts.

 

[SCOTT27]

You will be able to judge for yourself when the Concept Car is shown.

 

[KIII3R 7]

In this picture it looks less chubby at the rear :

http://burnyourfuel.com/My_Files/BMW/3-Series/2011-BMW-3-Series-GT/2011-bmw-3-gt-01.jpg

Is the 3 GT going to be smaller than the standard 3er? I read somewhere that it will be fwd is this true?

 

[Human]

In this picture it looks less chubby at the rear :

http://burnyourfuel.com/My_Files/BMW/3-Series/2011-BMW-3-Series-GT/2011-bmw-3-gt-01.jpg

Is the 3 GT going to be smaller than the standard 3er? I read somewhere that it will be fwd is this true?

On the dimensions I cannot give you a definitive answer, but unlikely. FWD!? Definitive NO! Apart from all different reasons the most logigal is that it shares the same platform from the F30,F31 & F32 and will most likely share the exact platform with the 3er wagon/estate (F31) and next generation X1.
All of which will be RWD (goes without saying) or AWD (X-Drive) as an option.

 

[K-A]

I don't know if it's the snow and chamo mix distorting the design heavily, but that greenhouse (which seems like the silhouette can be fully made out) looks extremely similar to an A5 Sportback.

 

[donkeykong]

I don't know if it's the snow and chamo mix distorting the design heavily, but that greenhouse (which seems like the silhouette can be fully made out) looks extremely similar to an A5 Sportback.

I have to agree it does look similar from that angle.

 

[Human]

^
I also agree. I am not the design expert but maybe the typical Sportback design (as Fastback designs of old) doesn't lend itself to a really wide spectrum of different roofline designs? Hence in this new niche or theme the similarities will be obvious.

 

[Bricks]

Immediately reminded of this concept we saw a while back:

 

[Beemer B773ER]

^ One can only dream....

 

[Levi68]

I think it will be one another useless car from BMW. But what can we do, when 99% will buy a 3 Series GT and only 1% would buy a Z2 ?

 

[EnI]

More here: 2013 BMW 3-series GT caught testing

 

[Human]

IMO the glasshouse is too large/high.

 

[Beemer B773ER]

Keep in mind that car is wearing winter tires, so the smaller wheels balloon everything about the car's proportions.

Here's a very quick and rough chop I did in MS Paintbrush where I borrowed the larger more appealing wheels from a 760Li photo. You can see with larger wheels the proportions even out and look much less bloated than the 5GT.

 

[Deckhook]

Tell me again, was the 5GT that great of a sales success?

Then why on earth repeat the same basic formula on something slightly smaller?

 

[EnI]

5er GT sales are around 25,000 units worldwide. In some markets the demand is high, in some there is almost none. It depends. But it sure isn't a mainstream car.

The demand for 5er GT in Europe is OK, but the offer still lacks lower-end diesel engine to be even more affordable & attractive for customers - eg. both CLS and A7 (which are in the same price segment, although not the same concepts) come with such diesel engine in European markets (both with 204 HP), while entry diesel-powered 5er GT is 530d with 245HP, followed by 535d with 300HP. Btw, A7 & CLS sales are between 30,000 and 35,000 units annually - with quite high sales in US market, where 5er GT is a complete fail.

There has been a 525d prototype spied a while ago, so I guess 5er GT will also come as 525d GT with 218HP, and accordingly a bit lower price compared to 530d. This will sure boost sales. Especially among targeted customer pool - the elderly who appreciate roomy & comfy BMW with semi-commanding sitting position.

But 3er GT will sure be much more successful seller in Europe anyway - it's closer to Europeans: car size, engine choices etc. 5er GT is HUGE.

 

[Deckhook]

I just don't get the reasoning for it, it's neither as practical as an estate or SUV and nor is it as pretty as a saloon. Where as the A7 and CLS look special compared to the saloon versions they are based on the 3/5GT just look odd. I suppose I never based my opinion on engine choice or size of the thing, only on looks which I reckon were it's biggest failing towards sales, maybe I was looking at it all wrong.

 

[Beemer B773ER]

I just don't get the reasoning for it, it's neither as practical as an estate or SUV and nor is it as pretty as a saloon. Where as the A7 and CLS look special compared to the saloon versions they are based on the 3/5GT just look odd.

This is how I view this whole BMW GT niche:

• Reason #1 vs. Sedan: The GT provides a more spacious and airy cabin (virtually 7er interior on a 5er wheelbase). Also, the level of luxury in the cabin is a clear step-up from a 5er sedan. ie: a more unique and special cabin.
• Reason #2 vs. Sedan: The vanity factor. Sedans are sooooo common. Who want's to feel common?
• Reason #3 vs. Sedan: Driving position. Yes we are car enthusiasts, so we much prefer the low-down, bucket seat style of a sporty coupe than the high-sitting, commanding, better visibility position of an SUV. I'll be honest and say that even though I enjoy the low-to-the-ground feel of my 3er Coupe, whenever I do get to drive an SUV I enjoy the view from up there, especially in city traffic!
• Reason #1 vs. SUV/Estate: I don't need to take the dog and kitchen sink with them anywhere. The kids have long-left the nest, so I just need the space for my golf clubs and a few suitcases.
• Reason #2 vs. SUV: The vanity factor...again. I want to feel unique, I want to express my individuality, my departure from the norm, and command attention when I arrive.
• Reason #3 vs. SUV/Estate/Sedan: It's a fashion statement, something stylish! Just remember, stylish doesn't necessarily mean appealing. What's stylish to one person is a complete WTF-moment to another (just look at some of the 'stylish' stuff you see models wearing on the catwalk!..or some of the things people call 'art').

I do appreciate the design/thinking behind the 5er GT, but yes I'll admit it ain't the prettiest thing! For me, it's appeals are its imposing presence, and it's sublime interior. But I believe BMW would have been better served producing something like the A7 as it would better communicate the sporty image of the brand, but as we have seen with the 'JOY' campaign, BMW are trying to appeal more on a 'lifestyle' level rather than just a product level. Dynamic doesn't necessarily have to mean SPORTY first, it just has to mean something different, something fresh, something that challenges the norm. The 5er GT does it.. for better or for worse, that's up to the individual.