M3/M4 BMW E90 M3 Sedan (Official pics & info)

[bum-man]

Completely and utterly underwhelmed. I must also say the rear looks dreadful, very messy looking job with that diffuser. bleh.

 

[RICHBOY]

Not bad, a little dull though.. I have to give it to BMW though, it seems to me that there convinced that there heritage alone can sell there cars. Don't get me wrong, they make some of the best handling cars on the planet, but the competition isn't far off the mark either! I truly expect BMW's pockets to take a serious hit due to the C63 and the B8 RS4 this time. I guess it's true that BMW doesn't value exterior and interior design as much as it's rivals.. And why should they, it hasn't had a negative affected there sales now has it? Good going BMW you've created what I'm sure will be another well balanced performance sedan!

 

[RICHBOY]

 

[SCOTT27]

Regarding changes to the Sedan , well it is a typical BMW facelift , just slight changes here and there. It is not going to be radical due to the amount of 3er models sold already worldwide. The regular sedan will not get the Coupe front because Coupe and Cabrio are designed to be individual from the Sedan and Touring . In this case it was a Suspension and engineering issue.

Besides journalists are extremely vocal about BMW designs and expect radical updates to offset and verify their comments. But as witnessed by some cases they never get their own way...

 

[Bartek S.]

Official M3 Sedan Information
It's official. BMW is back with a four-door version of its legendary top of the range 3-series - the mighty ///M3! When production of the four-door E36 M3 ended in 1999, many BMW enthusiasts were left cold when the next-generation E46 M3 appeared only in Coupe format, and even the fastest four-door 330i proved no match to the M3. This time, however, BMW has prepared its warrior in the medium-sized premium car segment for full-scale warfare against the Audi RS4 and the Mercedes C63 AMG.
Following yesterday's official 'look-alike' brochure, BMW unveiled today the official specifications of the four-door E90 M3 model. We've seen the four-door model lapping Nurburgring numerous times during the summer, and the Coupe-styled front bumper and headlights, M-style side gills, 19-inch M-wheels, quad-exhausts and a rear spoiler are the biggest optical changes over the standard four-door saloon.

The specifications sheet of the M3 Sedan offers no real surprises. The four-door sedan will expectedly be powered by the same high-revving 4.0-litre 420 hp V8 engine as its Coupe sibling, making it capable of a 0-100km/h sprint in 4.9 seconds, a mere 0.1 seconds slower than the Coupe, although you'd be pressed to notice the difference. At 1680 kg the four-door version is also roughly 30 kg heavier than the Coupe. With the addition of two doors, you loose the the carbon-fibre roof, which supposedly strips 5 kg of the Coupe's weight.

At launch, the M3 will be offered only with BMW's six-speed manual gearbox, but expect BMW to throw in its version of a double clutch gearbox in the model range in the next few years.
Official: BMW E90 M3 Sedan Revealed

 

[Sunny]

Is the side vent different from the coupe? It looks better somehow.

 

[PanterroR]

Is the side vent different from the coupe? It looks better somehow.

Yep.

 

[Bartek S.]

 

[martinbo]

I can't believe all the negative sentiment levelled at the E90 M3. Didn't we have like 3 years to get used to the tail light design. Sure, I agree with everyone that the graphics could do with some tweaking but why beat a dead horse?

Doesn't anyone here like the muscular, nose down stance of the car? Or how about the way that the wheels look perfectly in proportion relative to the sheetmetal. Isn't it refreshing to see a nice cab-backward silhouette on a sedan? The C63 looks like a Merc, and the BMW M3 looks like nothing other than a typical M car. You takes your pick and you makes your choice!

There's really not much wrong with this car.

 

[Zafiro]

I can't believe all the negative sentiment levelled at the E90 M3. Didn't we have like 3 years to get used to the tail light design. Sure, I agree with everyone that the graphics could do with some tweaking but why beat a dead horse?

Doesn't anyone here like the muscular, nose down stance of the car? Or how about the way that the wheels look perfectly in proportion relative to the sheetmetal. Isn't it refreshing to see a nice cab-backward silhouette on a sedan? The C63 looks like a Merc, and the BMW M3 looks like nothing other than a typical M car. You takes your pick and you makes your choice!

There's really not much wrong with this car.

you know this board. MB fans and Audi fans like to work together and bashing BMW. For whatever bmw does, its not enough, they will always find something to bitch about. Something to get used to

 

[SCOTT27]

Now lets begin the argument of Audi RS4 between BMW M3 which I dont understand how you can compare the Audi RS4 against a 2dr Coupe?
For the M3 sedan is where BMW took a more detailed look at the Audi RS4 . For the Coupe we looked at The RS4 of course and different cars some in competition and some above the class all which is evident in our direction on how we have upped the ante with the new M3.

As witnessed on the media launch on Spain , UK Journalists brought Audi RS4 rivals to compete with a two door Coupe , Of course these cars were not allowed in the BMW complex as we disapprove greatly of this of course the result is of course communication and to sell magazines.

I was recently sent a scanned example of a comparison test between the BMW M3 , Audi S5 (No where near a rival) , Porsche Cayman S (Not in the M3's segment and a Vauvhall VXR8 ( again wrong segment...) The Cayman S won but I do not see the comparison to be made??? I have also seen a MINI Clubman against a Golf GTi ... With the MINI getting minuses for not having enough space?????

 

[Zafiro]

Weight for M3 4-doors is 1680 kg. I think its 30 kg more than M3 Coupe.

 

[RICHBOY]

Now lets begin the argument of Audi RS4 between BMW M3 which I dont understand how you can compare the Audi RS4 against a 2dr Coupe?
For the M3 sedan is where BMW took a more detailed look at the Audi RS4 . For the Coupe we looked at The RS4 of course and different cars some in competition and some above the class all which is evident in our direction on how we have upped the ante with the new M3.

As witnessed on the media launch on Spain , UK Journalists brought Audi RS4 rivals to compete with a two door Coupe , Of course these cars were not allowed in the BMW complex as we disapprove greatly of this of course the result is of course communication and to sell magazines.

I was recently sent a scanned example of a comparison test between the BMW M3 , Audi S5 (No where near a rival) , Porsche Cayman S (Not in the M3's segment and a Vauvhall VXR8 ( again wrong segment...) The Cayman S won but I do not see the comparison to be made??? I have also seen a MINI Clubman against a Golf GTi ... With the MINI getting minuses for not having enough space?????

Truth! I don't understand half the comparisons either. The only comparisons that matter in this segment are as follows...

E92 M3 vs. CLK63 vs. RS5 (someday)

E90 M3 vs. C63 vs. B7/B8 RS4

The E92 M3 isn't the RS4 or C63's rival, now that the E90 M3's arrived we can talk!

 

[Sunny]

Truth! I don't understand half the comparisons either. The only comparisons that matter in this segment are as follows...

E92 M3 vs. CLK63 vs. RS5 (someday)

E90 M3 vs. C63 vs. B7/B8 RS4

The E92 M3 isn't the RS4 or C63's rival, now that the E90 M3's arrived we can talk!

Putting CLK63, a car that costs almost twice as much in the category doesn't make much sense. It is closer to M6 than M3. Have no idea how much RS5 will cost, hopefully not much more than the M3.

I think if you are assuming that the E90 M3 will be slower than the coupe, I think you will be disappointed - they are both mechanically the same and last time M did a coupe and sedan, they both weighed the same too. Yeah, I know it lacks the CF roof, but I doubt that will make a big difference.

 

[Zafiro]

they are both mechanically the same and last time M did a coupe and sedan, they both weighed the same too.

Not this time, weight for 4-door M3 is 1680 kg. I think its 30 kg more than 2-door M3.

 

[EnI]

Guys, the main point of CF roof is to lower the center of gravity ... to reduce the weight of the upper part of the car. Yet the total weight saving due CF roof isn't so significant as someone would expected.

 

[onehots2k]

"With a claimed curb weight of 3,538 pounds, the M3 sedan's performance mirrors that of the M3 coupe, with BMW claiming acceleration to 100 kph (62 mph) in 4.9 seconds."
-edmunds.com

Caranddriver quoted the weight of the C63 to be near 3800lbs. Its gonna need that extra horsepower.

I am of the impression that the sedan is lighter???

 

[Sunny]

"With a claimed curb weight of 3,538 pounds, the M3 sedan's performance mirrors that of the M3 coupe, with BMW claiming acceleration to 100 kph (62 mph) in 4.9 seconds."
-edmunds.com

Caranddriver quoted the weight of the C63 to be near 3800lbs. Its gonna need that extra horsepower.

I am of the impression that the sedan is lighter???

If true, yeah I think that is lighter than the coupe, I think the coupe is around 3600lbs.

 

[EnI]

Official weight figures ...... Weight-to-power ratio (DIN)

M3 E90 (420HP): 1,680kg EU (1,605kg DIN) ..... 3.82kg/HP
M3 E92 (420HP): 1,655kg EU (1,580kg DIN) ..... 3.76kg/HP

C63 AMG (457HP): 1,730kg EU (1,655kg DIN) ..... 3.62kg/HP
CLK63 AMG (481HP): 1,755kg EU (1,680kg DIN) ..... 3.49kg/HP

RS4 (420HP): 1,725kg EU (1,650kg DIN) ..... 3.93kg/HP

 

[LaArtist]

I like it betta!!!