Hot! BMW AG: What's Next

[PanterroR]

This is where my head is at too. I'd rather see a 9-er than an 8GC.

I'm fine with that. It's just that i don't want to see any shooting brake crap starting with number 8 on it's rear.

 

[SKY]

Strategically, an 8 series GC would not be a smart move, imo. The upcoming 8 series already suffers from a rather diffuse positioning, anyway. Is it a sportscar or a luxury tourer, an AMG GT or a Maserati GranTourismo? Critics say (with good reason): It cannot be any of that, it is a re-badged 6er. So it competes in a lower segment.
If BMW should really recreate the entire former 6 series line-up in 8 series guise, there will be a backlash. It would be wiser to go for a 9er (without GC label), use 7er/8er tech, and give it a unique design (and maybe even some unique tech, in terms of HMI, for instance). In this segment, BMW could/should/must(?) risk something. If they don't, Mercedes (and Porsche etc.) will take the cake.

THIS!!

 

[Deleted member 1071]

A svelte, rakish 9 series sedoupe ?

How absolutely spot on would THAT be ?

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

“For now, I can’t confirm that,” said van Meel, “except to say that we have watched the luxury sports coupé market closely and we see lots of four-wheel-drive cars within it already. We have also already proven that our M xDrive four-wheel drive system doesn’t adversely affect the handling purity of the new M5. There’s nothing to fear from four-wheel drive.

It's interesting to whom they managed to prove that, since the car hasn't been extensively tested yet, or delivered to end customers

 

[SCOTT27]

From my Previous response on the 8er.

If you remember back in the Inception days of BMW design where there was emphasis on a niche within a niche,in a niche,within a niche, in a niche.
So they did investigate the option of a 6er Shooting Brake which Adrian VanHooydunk even admitted it existed. This was before Mercedes actually took the risk with the CLS. Could an 8er Shooting Brake work today though? Even though Mercedes killed the CLS version?
Probably not. It could be an exciting exercise. But with no reality.
As a Gran Coupe? It is possible it could show but I have posted previously some ongoing discussion which can be considered as rumours to the state of play.
As Below.

I have heard rumours about this too which I will need to confirm as there are a lot of theories.
Remember they do have a chassis code for a Gran Coupe.
One is basis that the Coupe does not integrate the design of the Coupe with four doors.
Secondly, The hypothetical solution I am told which sounds logical due to the more elavated positioning of the 8er. Apparently Lies in the Gran Coupe effectively being replaced by or simply called the 9er.

rear to be more muscular and tapered as also reducing complex weight?
I am told there will be a new render upcoming within the AutoBild publication that gives an early impression of the finished car.

So that leaves the unknown M8 Concept which has been discussed over at M Power forums for some time. Also exciting because of the first all new M Concept to debut in Geneva since the 2007 M3 Coupe or if you want maybe the M4 Safety Car(GTS prequel).

 

[bmwblog]

It's not 50/50. The cabrio is near done as seen in the spy pics. And we haven't seen ANYthing regarding a GC. It could indeed be the GC, but I give that 20%. We have these rumors about the GC being a 6er in name, too



Why. That'd be absolutely awesome. And they should make an M version too, to have something to fight the E63 S Estate, RS6 and Panamera Shooting Brake (sportback? whatever they call it..).

Was there a time when we spoke and it wasn't the truth? Any reason to doubt us?

 

[bmwblog]

Oh dear...

That would actually be a bit disappointing. With an abundance of in-motion video footage as well as photographs of 8 series/M8 cabriolet prototypes, a Geneva concept presentation would not be much of a...well...surprise. As appealing as it may be.

But a Gran Coupe ? In light of the new Audi A7 Sportback , Panamera II and M-Bs' double-prongued C257/X290 assault on the 4 door (incl. liftback) sedoupe segment, an entry by BMW would be as exciting as it would be...natural.

Would it be a genuine 4 door, like the F06 6 series/M6 GC ? Or perhaps a liftback ? A shooting brake would be very interesting as well.

You're on the right track, congrats.

 

[bmwblog]

From my Previous response on the 8er.

If you remember back in the Inception days of BMW design where there was emphasis on a niche within a niche,in a niche,within a niche, in a niche.
So they did investigate the option of a 6er Shooting Brake which Adrian VanHooydunk even admitted it existed. This was before Mercedes actually took the risk with the CLS. Could an 8er Shooting Brake work today though? Even though Mercedes killed the CLS version?
Probably not. It could be an exciting exercise. But with no reality.
As a Gran Coupe? It is possible it could show but I have posted previously some ongoing discussion which can be considered as rumours to the state of play.
As Below.



So that leaves the unknown M8 Concept which has been discussed over at M Power forums for some time. Also exciting because of the first all new M Concept to debut in Geneva since the 2007 M3 Coupe or if you want maybe the M4 Safety Car(GTS prequel).

Lots of guessing on your part. You pretty much listed all the possible models.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Lots of guessing on your part. You pretty much listed all the possible models.

Yep! That's Scott!

As he no longer works for BMW, the CreativeMarketingTM has to be a little more "creative". The difference now though is he's doing it for free!

 

[SCOTT27]

Yep! That's Scott!

As he no longer works for BMW, the CreativeMarketingTM has to be a little more "creative". The difference now though is he's doing it for free!

Hahaha. The Bill is in the post.

 

[klier]

Was there a time when we spoke and it wasn't the truth? Any reason to doubt us?

Where did I doubt you? When I say it's more like 80% cabrio and 20% GC, it might still end up being a GC. I explained why I think 50/50 is not quite right, that's all.

 

[bmwblog]

Where did I doubt you? When I say it's more like 80% cabrio and 20% GC, it might still end up being a GC. I explained why I think 50/50 is not quite right, that's all.

Gotcha. Well, let's say, none of those names will be on the car. Close though

 

[mini_cooper4]

M8 GT! Yay!

 

[gdm]

M8 CSL

 

[martinbo]

Hmm, lots of contradiction around whether the M8 GTE transaxle will see service in the production M8 or whether we'll simply see M xDrive. I'm going with latter, hoping for the former against all odds.

 

[klier]

Gotcha. Well, let's say, none of those names will be on the car. Close though

Ok, now I really am curious. When again will we know?

 

[Matski]

Yeah, thinking about it, I wonder if it's a CSL or GTS?

If the standard M8 is going to be AWD, a la M5... then perhaps the very high performance variant is going to be RWD only, with a trans-axle, and a more mental (but maybe lower capacity) - engine (The racing engine has an 80mm stroke, vs the M5 V8's 88.3mm stroke, to give it the required 4000cc displacement).

 

[SKY]

CSL has a sexiness to it that GTS completely lacks of.

 

[SCOTT27]

Here comes the big push for Bayerische Motoren Werke. A New Kind Of Luxury.

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[Deleted member 25]

Some old vibe sexy cold coolness, much more welcome than the joy snooze fest