Vs Autozeitung: LEXUS RX 400H vs BMW X3 3.0sd

[PanterroR]

With Lexus, there is no passion so to speak off because they were created by Toyota: they didn't have to "survive, fight and innovate" like Mercedes had to in the late 19th century and early 20th century.

True, true...

 

[cawimmer430]

I was actually interested by what you said about the LS, so i went to compare Road & Track's figures for both the S550 and the LS460

From 60mph

S550: 130ft
LS460: 143ft

From 80mph

S550: 229ft
LS460:251ft

So there you go, the LS460 doesn't brake as well as the S550..


Yep, 100% agreed As for the North American market, they don't really have any problems there, maybe selling Lexus' in Europe is just a low priority for them

Yep, I remember that Car and Driver comparison and how the LS didn't brake that well. But who needs good brakes when the car can park itself. j/k

Lexus does indeed seem half-hearted about Europe. No engine choices, no trim level options and totally off taste with the European mentality.

 

[Bruce]

Yep, I remember that Car and Driver comparison and how the LS didn't brake that well. But who needs good brakes when the car can park itself. j/k

......... Lol!


Here are the other braking figures, for comparion..actually this is a good idea for my next data thread..

From 60mph

745Li: 117ft
Phaeton: 122ft
XJ8L: 125ft
A8L: 127ft
S550: 130ft
S500 - W220: 133ft
LS460: 143ft

From 80mph

745Li: 203ft
Phaeton: 218ft
A8L: 219ft
XJ8L: 223ft
S550: 229ft
S500 - W220: 247ft
LS460: 251ft

 

[Mr. M]

......... Lol!


Here are the other braking figures, for comparion..actually this is a good idea for my next data thread..

From 60mph

745Li: 117ft
Phaeton: 122ft
XJ8L: 125ft
A8L: 127ft
S550: 130ft
S500 - W220: 133ft
LS460: 143ft

From 80mph

745Li: 203ft
Phaeton: 218ft
A8L: 219ft
XJ8L: 223ft
S550: 229ft
S500 - W220: 247ft
LS460: 251ft

Hey thanks for that. It's interesting how the Phaeton can brake so well when it's the heaviest of the lot.

 

[cawimmer430]

Hey thanks for that. It's interesting how the Phaeton can brake so well when it's the heaviest of the lot.

You know why?

GERMAN ENGINEERING

 

[Bruce]

Hey thanks for that. It's interesting how the Phaeton can brake so well when it's the heaviest of the lot.

You're welcome.

I was also suprised it was so amazing when it came to braking

 

[meisocool]

Conclusion:
Lexus RX 400h BMW X3 3.0sd

Handling (min.) 1:58,9 1:51,1

Lol ...that was too much of defeat....

Bravo to BMW Engines...

BTW IMO Lexus RX is no slouch though...it rides,looks great(better than X3 exterior IMO)...but hey it's still not BMW..

 

[merve_extreme]

This is my first post here.
see in the C&D test the Mercedes S and Lexus LS were on all weather tyres,where as the BMW 7 ,Jaguar XJ and Audi A8 were on standard summer tyres.

The S550 outbreaks the LS and stops fairly close to the 7-series and A8,the XJ is lightest and hence it stops very well,this shows that the S-class has the best brakes and the LS the worst.

http://imageshack.us

 

[cawimmer430]

This is my first post here.
see in the C&D test the Mercedes S and Lexus LS were on all weather tyres,where as the BMW 7 ,Jaguar XJ and Audi A8 were on standard summer tyres.

The S550 outbreaks the LS and stops fairly close to the 7-series and A8,the XJ is lightest and hence it stops very well,this shows that the S-class has the best brakes and the LS the worst.

http://imageshack.us

Welcome to GermanCarForum!

GREAT POST! (Yes I am biased because you praised the Benz! )

 

[Bruce]

This is my first post here.

Welcome


I posted figures all from Road & Track, so it's interesting to see the Car & Driver figures.

 

[merve_extreme]

Welcome to GermanCarForum!

GREAT POST! (Yes I am biased because you praised the Benz! )

Thank you.
Yes i love Mercedes,its my favourite,but the S-class does stop very well for its all weather tyres.

 

[cawimmer430]

Thank you.
Yes i love Mercedes,its my favourite,but the S-class does stop very well for its all weather tyres.

I'm a Mercedes-Benz fan too.

BTW, you might want to introduce yourself in the Introductions and Greetings sections. It's a great way of meeting other Mercedes-Benz fans.