Autocar drives the 730d and

[Mr. Mercedes]

Definitely S for me here



The 7 is three years newer

Me tooo. The S-class does not look aged and actually looks lithe and athletic next to that barge.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

7 Vs S here
Vergleich Krieg der Welten | alle-autos-in.de

Anyone care to translate?

 

[EnI]

Me tooo. The S-class does not look aged and actually looks lithe and athletic next to that barge.

Unfortunately driving it doesn't feel so athletic.

The review says 7er is much more agile, and it feels like driving a much smaller car. Although offering same comfort level as S-class.

 

[Merc1]

Both cars are SWB!

Check all the pics ... Eg. this one doesn't lie:

So, SWB 730d vs SWB S320 CDI:

I've told you F01 was very formidable & oozing huge presence ...

Doesn't look it, but ok. Yeah the BMW is formidable and oozes presence, too bad it isn't anywhere near good looking, IMO. Have to see it in person, but the front section looks disconnected from the rear.


M

 

[Tarek]

I've told you F01 was very formidable & oozing huge presence ...

So BMW went down that road again which is making the 7er longer to look bigger and have more presence,what's formidable about that?

 

[EnI]

So BMW went down that road again which is making the 7er longer to look bigger and have more presence,what's formidable about that?

Length:

S-class W221 SWB: 5,079mm
7-series F01 SWB: 5,072mm


So, 7-series is actually shorter than S-class.

Yet it looks much muscular & having quite greater presence. That's formidable.
How come? Same height, yet 3cm wider & featuring almost 4cm longer wheelbase - due shorter overhangs.

Almost perfect proportions make it formidable. A work of art.

You have to see the car IRL.


Btw, in that pic S-class looks much smaller due the angle and the fact both cars are not aligned.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Length:

S-class W221 SWB: 5,079mm
7-series F01 SWB: 5,072mm


So, 7-series is actually shorter than S-class.

Yet it looks much muscular & having quite greater presence. That's formidable.
How come? Same height, yet 3cm wider & featuring almost 4cm longer wheelbase - due shorter overhangs.

Almost perfect proportions make it formidable. A work of art.

You have to see the car IRL.

Short and fat.

LOL @ work of art.

 

[EnI]

LOL @ work of art.

Not funny at all. The new upcoming BMW sedans & coupes / roadsters are featuring a special attention to proportions. It was a real hard work to make them happen - a great amount of engineering work. The new proportions are really state of art.

Regarding barge look: it's all due that funny photo. The S really looks (too) puny in that photo.

Perhaps this one is better:

 

[Merc1]

Oh god now we're going to hear about how BMW is paying special attention to proportions, yet the car looks ill-proportioned at best. It looks W140-like if anything.

Formadiable in this case looks bloated IMO, I'd rather have pretty or good looking.


What in the world is hard about engineering a car to look big and imposing in a time where more cars are trying to hide their mass with clever styling?

EnI you've got it backwards. Nothing hard about engineering or styling a big car to look big or imposing.


M

 

[Tarek]

Yes this one is better

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Why won't anyone translate the whole thing. This is the first comparison right?

The 7's nose really does look like the snout of a a certain filthy farm animal.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

For the lazy people like me:

 

[EnI]

The 7's nose really does look like the snout of a a certain filthy farm animal.

What's this now? MB fanboys having an orgy?

Of course S-class has some advantages over 7er ... Yet presence is definitely not one of them. Nor are better-to-look-at proportions. Of course MB is still the luxo-comfo King. With that specific MB cosy feeling. No doubt. But in many aspects the new 7er is much better car. And even the S facelift won't change that. Although the both cars play different cards: S is more cosy&warm comort-cruiser, 7er is more wilder techno-art driver's luxo car.

 

[EnI]

That Individual interior is to die for....siiiiick any more available already? I don't see those ceramic buttons anywhere??? Scott?

They are somewhere.

Unique: controls and switches made of high-tech ceramics.


BMW is the first car maker in the world to use high-tech ceramics as a particu-larly sophisticated material for selected control units. Replacing the galvanised metal otherwise used on such components, this special ceramics material is available as an option on the iDrive Controller, the electronic gear selection lever, as well as the rotary knob on the automatic air conditioning and audio system.
This special material so far used only on particularly exclusive mobile phones or other high-tech appliances, is not only particularly strong and massive, but also conspicuously cool and, at the same time, pleasant to feel and touch.

 

[Sunny]

Real nice, a SWB S-Class photographed next to a LWB 7-Series.

M

Lol, both cars are clearly SWB.

 

[LaArtist]

Some mod needs to clean up this mess..
Ive been part of heated discussions
But come on.. this is just plain name calling and crazy talk..
Imo it does not belong on GCF..
But then again im not a decision taker .. so ile be quiet from now on..

PS
The 7er look very good compared to the S class on those shots..
I must admit..
Ive said it a million times the new 7er is a good looking car and alot better than the previous..
And who doesent enjoy some healthy competition .. it only makes the Best be better
Look what the C class made BMW do with the 3er
A pretty dramatic facelift, wich now feels like almost a new car..and reason enough to change your pre FL 3er to the new one..
And maybe this 7er will bring the same result in MB and the S class
Competition is good

 

[Merc1]

Lol, both cars are clearly SWB.

Edit: I didn't look like it in that first pic. I stand corrected on that.

M

 

[SDNR]

The 7er looks terrific imo -- I will be interested to see what Merc does to improve the S with its face lift -- right now, the 7er has the best interior in this class -- I like it more than the Audi A8.

 

[Sunny]

And while we are acting like nothing happened, MB needs to do something about car's water retention problems around the wheels - the only I thing I really dislike about the car.

 

[SDNR]

The Individual wheels posted earlier are gorgeous.