Vs Autobild: Lexus LS 600h vs the German Trio


Zafiro

Supreme Roadmaster
Messages
30,811


Audi / BMW / Lexus / Mercedes

326hp:650nm / 330hp:750nm / 394hp:520nm / 320hp/730nm

Fuel Consumption: 9,5 l / 9,7 l / 12,1 l / 9,7 l

0–50 km/h 2,5 s 2,5 s 3,0 s 2,6 s
0–100 km/h 6,2 s 6,8 s 6,7 s 6,6 s
0–130 km/h 9,5 s 10,8 s 10,1 s 10,3 s

60–100 km/h 3,2 s 3,6 s 3,1 s 3,3 s
80–120 km/h 3,6 s 4,3 s 3,8 s 4,2 s

Brake distance 100-0km/h (cold): 37,3 m 37,7 m 37,3 m 37,8 m
Brake distance 100-0km/h (warm): 37,8 m 37,0 m 38,0 m 38,2 m

1. MB (479p)
2.Audi (474p)
3. BMW (466p)
4. Lexus (443p)

Who has fun at new, intelligent technology, with the LS 600h certainly overjoyed. We determined the promised consumption advantage however only with particularly careful driving fashion. The Diesels require there less care with the acceleration. Particularly fast: AUDI. Very prestigiously: the 7er. Best Allrounder: Mercedes s-class
 
The BMW looks great for in this review... the LS just doesnt look good at all to me... Id prefer the german trio any day of the week compared to the LS
 
The BMW looks great for in this review... the LS just doesnt look good at all to me... Id prefer the german trio any day of the week compared to the LS

Yeah, you're right! The BMW looks awesome in this test - and I also would ever prefer the three germans over the Lexus!! :t-cheers:
 
Surprisingly the bmw 7er look the best, purely based on the look it would be my choice but as a complete package it isnt the best car. But I cant get it over that the bimmer looks so damn good.
 
2 things i cannot understand.The S having longer stopping distances and the safety equipment rating.


Sicherheitsausstattung(Safety Equipment)
Max/S-class/A8/7er/LS
30/26/27/26/30

what dose the A8 have that the S-class doesn't.In fact the S has safety equipment next only to the LS.Are some of the equipment optional.
 
to me the best looking car is the s class by far both exterior and interior wise....its simply the best off these four


i agree with their rating...i expected the lexus to be better..but in most tests its behind the germans
 
Surprisingly the bmw 7er look the best, purely based on the look it would be my choice but as a complete package it isnt the best car. But I cant get it over that the bimmer looks so damn good.

You mean that you like this interior? It doesn't look very good to me. Of course Lexus interior is by far the worse.

 
Yannis, I was talking about the exterior

welcome back btw.
 
Two things which kill the Lexus are the European style driving which doesn't work well with a hybrid setup. We don't spend 90% of our time in the city. Instead we do a lot of mixed driving which means an LS600h will be running more on its gasoline engine than electric.

Second, the trunk space and payload capacity of the LS600h are just a joke for this class. Europeans like to travel - even with big luxury cars like these and the Lexus, with its poor payload capacity and not-so-good fuel consumption lack the appeal of a long-distance cruiser in that regard.

I don't doubt that the comfort is top notch however. :usa7uh:
 
This car is a joke. Such a bodyroll has not been seen in a cat that price since ages!!

The review is not good for the Lexus...

The comfort is not as good as the three others (the car trembles at every big bump on the road), and it bodyrolls a lot... At 200km/h the V8 has to go near the red zone to accelerate and becomes noisy, whereas the two others are comfortably cruising... Steering has no feel at all.
The single good point is the fact that it can drive the first meters with no noise at all, majestic and silent. It can't stand with the others in the 0-100km/h, but has good performances, although without gearchanges, so that it feels a lot slower than it really is.


The BMW has a not very relaxing comportment on high speed, a bit strange reactions...Not so reassuring at high speed.

The Mercedes impressed them a lot, "Perfect does the Mercedes. High speed, bad road, lots of curves... No matter, nothing disturbs it. Furthermore you have perfect suspension and an evident Comand system. Relaxed, you really can concentrate on the road. Whereas you are by the competitors always looking for a button, seeking in a menu, looking at a display..."

The Audi, thanks to its 4 wheel drive and light advantage, has the better performances despite a less impressive torque.

Audi and BMW are more "noisy", to give a more sporty impression. But the Audi has less bodyrolling and more reassuring comportment than the BMW.

The King still reigns...

The Lexus... Next time, spend more time to develop the car and less to develop the gadgets, a luxury car is not only a gimmick-demo!!!
 
Surprisingly the bmw 7er look the best, purely based on the look it would be my choice...
Exactly... Your choice. :)

For me, it's the last out of these four based on looks....

My top:
1. Audi
2. MB
3. Lexus
4. BMW
 
To each his own Amo, mine would be the S-Class...

But, even if the hybrid is not that convincing in the Lexus, and removes a lot of trunk space and load capacity, and even if it is a bit less convincing in all domains than the Germans...

This Lexus maybe not the better sedan in the world... Let's say it is one of the better cars in the world. It is an exceptionnal car, even if some may be even more exceptionnal.

And the hybrid is something that can motive you to buy it. Because it may have higher consumption than diesel, it pollutes less. And it is so... futuristic to have a car that can move in full silent...

For me, these 4 cars are so good that it is more a question of preference, design, brand philosophy and image. The fact that one is more that, the other more that... You have to compare them to see it, because they are four of the best cars on the market today.

For me the technical superiority, the look, and the image of the S-Class are decisive. For others, it will be the sporty ambitions of the BMW, or of the Audi and its four-wheel drive... For others, it will be the hybrid, the Japanese understatement, the touch-screen...

:t-cheers:
 
[quote="Just_me]you just sold your soul to the devil :D[/quote]

"Just"?

Nah, I sold it to him many moons ago. :D
 
Back
Top