Audi’s future lineup revealed

VroomVroom · Mar 13, 2008

Re: Audi production schedule leaked 2008-2012

Luwalira said:
I feel ya. The gap between the TT and R8 is too small to fill with a car. Especially when there's the A5 as well.

yeah and when theres a A5 cab, A4 cab and the A3 cab

ACE · Mar 25, 2008

Re: Updated Audi schedule

Luwalira said:
I guess I made a little misjudgment. Here are the figures for Porsche 911:

997 C4: 1,495(EU) kg

997 C4S: 1,550(EU) kg

Difference 55kg

C4 and C4S are both all wheel drive. The 55kg difference is from a 3.6 vs 3.8 litre engine.

Centurion · Mar 25, 2008

Re: Updated Audi schedule

ACE said:
C4 and C4S are both all wheel drive. The 55kg difference is from a 3.6 vs 3.8 litre engine.

Made a mistake, thanks for pointing it out, the weight difference is still 65kg tough.

997 Carrera Manual: 1,470 kg(EU)
997 Carrera 4 Manual: 1,525 kg(EU)

ACE · Mar 26, 2008

Re: Updated Audi schedule

Luwalira said:
Made a mistake, thanks for pointing it out, the weight difference is still 65kg tough.

997 Carrera Manual: 1,470 kg(EU)
997 Carrera 4 Manual: 1,525 kg(EU)

That's a 55kg difference. I would say that the increase in weight from RWD to AWD (55kg in this case) is less than the average increase in weight from FWD to AWD (around 100kg for Audi A6's). I would say that Audi Quattros (Torsen versions) start with around 55kg weight penalty over the equivalent RWD BMWs so to see the Audi A6 coming out 100kg lighter than the BMW 5er would require around 150kg weight saving on the rest of the car. I will believe that when I see it, that will take a lot of aluminium!

bmer · May 19, 2008

Illustrations gallery of upcoming Audi vehicles from AutoZeitung:

Alle neuen Audi - neuheiten - Autozeitung.de

DaSilva · May 20, 2008

Centurion · May 26, 2008

New info, the dates are indicate production start, the cars will off course be presented two months before.

S4 3.0TFSI 245kw/333ps 6manual/7 S Tronic November 2008
RS6 Sedan September 2008
R8 V10 5.2FSI 386kw/525ps 6manual/R Tronic Februar 2009
A5 Cabrio November 2008
S5 Cabrio 3.0TFSI 245kw/333ps June 2009
RS5 4.2FSI 331kw/450ps 7S Tronic Mai 2010
S5(new engine 3.0TFSI 245kw) June 2010
A4 allroad January 2009
A5 Sportback April 2009
A7 Sportback Februar 2010
S7 Sportback 4.0TFSI 290kw/394ps August 2010
A8 D4(new model) October 2009
Q3 June 2010

DaSilva · May 26, 2008

Centurion said:
A5 Cabrio November 2008
RS5 4.2FSI 331kw/450ps 7S Tronic Mai 2010
A7 Sportback Februar 2010
S7 Sportback 4.0TFSI 290kw/394ps August 2010
A8 D4(new model) October 2009

New wish list for christmas a few years ahead.
Seriously I would only buy the A5 CAB (it will be the best looking CAB)
& the new A8 (Top of the line flagship) must be just mindblowing!

Centurion · May 26, 2008

What interest me is the 3.0TFSI 245kw/333ps. It's funny that Audi will offer an engine with two different forced inductions. I suspect the supercharged one is designed to replace the 3.2 FSI Quattro.

martinbo · May 26, 2008

Centurion said:
What interest me is the 3.0TFSI 245kw/333ps. It's funny that Audi will offer an engine with two different forced inductions. I suspect the supercharged one is designed to replace the 3.2 FSI Quattro.

What gives you the impression that there will be two different forms of forced induction on one V6 Luw? For now it looks like it's only supercharging...

EnI · May 27, 2008

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Bartek S. · Jun 2, 2008

Audi considering new supercar and compact SUV for U.S. market

Audi’s sales performance in the U.S. still pales in comparison to its main rivals BMW and Mercedes-Benz but the carmaker is determined to build its presence in the world’s biggest market with the launch of new and exciting models. Audi’s U.S. boss has now confirmed that two new vehicles, a compact soft-roader and a new supercar, are both being considered as potential additions to the carmaker’s U.S. lineup.

Johan de Nysschen, executive vice president of Audi of America, told AutoWeek that the compact SUV would be a “lifestyle” product, similar to Toyota’s RAV4. The new vehicle would be positioned below the recently revealed Q5, which is set to go on sale early next year.
Audi is working on a new Q3 but because of deal with Nissan where the “Q” badge can only be used on the Q5 and Q7 the new compact SUV would likely get a new name in the U.S.
De Nysschen wasn’t willing to reveal details about the new supercar but a Spider convertible version of R8 is due as well as a high-performance V10 model and both of these are likely to be earmarked for the U.S.
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SKY · Jun 6, 2008

What a piece of shit to downgrade their engine line up. S5 with that engine? puaj. And what about the new RS5? the same engine as the actual S5 but overpowered?. It doesn´t make sense to me.

BMW is now the green mark for excelence and they don´t downgrade their engines as Audi is planning.

Centurion · Jun 6, 2008

SKYSONY said:
What a piece of shit to downgrade their engine line up. S5 with that engine? puaj. And what about the new RS5? the same engine as the actual S5 but overpowered?. It doesn´t make sense to me.

BMW is now the green mark for excelence and they don´t downgrade their engines as Audi is planning.

It's because of BMW they are downgrading the S5 engine. The 335i models are selling like butter and Audi want to bring down the S4 and S5 to the same price level to have a bite of the cake. This is important especially in the US where the C63 cost less than 5k more than the S5. So audi is basically repositioning their S models.

SKY · Jun 7, 2008

Centurion said:
It's because of BMW they are downgrading the S5 engine. The 335i models are selling like butter and Audi want to bring down the S4 and S5 to the same price level to have a bite of the cake. This is important especially in the US where the C63 cost less than 5k more than the S5. So audi is basically repositioning their S models.

So they can upgrade their current 3.2 FSI making it a 3.2 TFSI, with twin turbo and all you want. But what they can´t do is downgrade a big engine such as S5 one to compete with the 335i.

Better will be forget about the actual 3.2 FSI engine and introduce the all new 3.0 TFSI, but not to downgrade the S5, i think is not good for Audi image.

Yperion · Jun 7, 2008

For the time beeing all we have is speculation and several contradicting sometimes information.

Let's wait and see what happens first.

I seriously doubt that the S5 will be downgraded in terms of engine power.

PanterroR · Jul 15, 2008

Next Audi RS4 to use supercharged V6; A3 lineup set to expand

Audi has already revealed that its next S4 sedan will be powered by a supercharged 3.0L V6, but a new report finds the S4 will not be the only A4-variant to use the blown engine. Sources inside Audi have revealed that the M3-rivaling RS4 will also use the supercharged mill.

The engineering mole failed to reveal the RS4’s horsepower rating, but did confirm with Car Magazine that the powerplant will essentially be the same engine used in the S4. Audi has yet to announce output figures for the S4, but it is widely believed that it will hit the market with at least 330 horsepower. Therefore, look for the RS4 to be pushing about 400-420 horsepower, but it wouldn’t be shocking to see a final figure closer to 450.

Although the RS4’s main competitors now use V8s, the insider isn’t worried about market acceptance. After all, the original RS4 used a forced induction V6 and the most resent RS4 actually sparked the jump to V8s. “They [BMW, Mercedes, Lexus] have followed, but now we will go back,” the source told Car.

The supercharged V6 should offer V8 levels of torque but return much better fuel economy.
The next RS4 is also slated to get Audi’s dual-clutch seven-speed S-tronic gearbox.

Despite the S4’s and RS4’s jump to supercharged V6s, don’t look for the S5 to make similar changes. According to Audi sources, the V8 actually better suits the car’s luxury image. In that same vein, the S5 will continue to be offered with a standard slush box rather than the sportier S-tronic unit.
Finally, Car’s report speculates that Audi’s A3 line is set to expand, with the inclusion of a Q3 which will be based on the Cross Coupe Quattro concept.

Source - LLN

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Zafiro · Jul 15, 2008

I fear that the M3 one day might get Turbo someday as well. I cant see a M3 only reeving to 7000 rpm

Foxfire · Jul 15, 2008

Considering recent developments, it's quite possible the next gen M3 will, along with future AMG models ...

Sunny · Jul 15, 2008

With all this talk of M and even Ferrari resorting to aspirated engines, I feel we might be fast approaching the end of a golden age for high revving NA engines. Very tempting to go and lap one up while they last.

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