Quattro/S2 Audi unveils the legendary Quattro's successor at the 2013 IAA

[Deckhook]

I look at the comparison between old concept and new and what I see is something that's production ready. Based on that opinion I think its looks not too bad but for me personally I dislike the fact its not the light weight road runner it once was.

When they say "too much is never enough" they weren't thinking of the automobile.

 

[Levi68]

I am the only one who really likes it (other than the weight, but then again, a GTR is fat as well)???

This car is going to be insanely quick, and the looks are pretty hot imo. A straight up Nissan GTR rival. Bloody awesome.

BMW M4 will smoke this Quattro.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I look at the comparison between old concept and new and what I see is something that's production ready. Based on that opinion I think its looks not too bad but for me personally I dislike the fact its not the light weight road runner it once was.

When they say "too much is never enough" they weren't thinking of the automobile.

I don't think there's too much criticism for the interior or exterior. Personally, I prefer the 1st concept's blunter rear end vs. the current one's more sloped appearance.

The issue is really is what the original one was aiming for and what this current one portends. The older concept had a smaller, more unique powertrain in a light-weight body, which would make it more sprightly. Whereas this one's heavier with a 700 hp V8-hybrid set-up. Advanced, yes. Unique? Not terribly. Much advance has been made in making hybrids more performance-oriented and seamless, i.e. LaFerrari, P1, 918, i8, etc. But as an enthusiast, I'd prefer something unique and chuckable. The 1st concept did a great job embodying that.

 

[Deckhook]

^That was my point with "too much is never enough", my opinion was they had took it the wrong direction. I say keep it simple and the Mk1 version followed that idea perfectly, this latest version might be bang up to date with the latest tech which may well make it quicker but I doubt it will be able to hide the huge weight difference.

 

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[Tumbo]

BMW M4 will smoke this Quattro.

What is it with you turning every god damn thread into an Audi vs BMW thingy? Enough already

 

[Lazydog]

I am the only one who really likes it

I like it but as I said before, I would love to see a retro of the coupe.

 

[JHF]

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[Tumbo]

^Out of those three, I'll pick the S8, which is the less ugly of those. I am worried about Audis future...

 

[Tumbo]

 

[C4L]

Man... Not changed?? EVERYTHING is changed! Wight, size, powertrain, engine... Everything. It's like the moon and the sun. The first Concept was a 2 seater coupé, while the new one is a 4 seater. It's MUCH bigger, and weights 550kg(!) more.

I meant from a purely cosmetic standpoint. I am aware of the mechanical changes...

 

[C4L]

Yes, but these small changes made a huge difference to the final appearance of the car, people don't see why Audi cannot keep the original design, it didn't look impossible to produce? Also the latest technical specification is a complete departure from the original specification. What is the purpose of this car now? It is big, heavy, fast but no faster than the R8, and probably more expensive too?

The original design was built around a 2,800 lb 2-seater with a 2.5T 5-cyl. This is a 4,000lb+ 2+2 with a V8 Hybrid. The design likely had to change to accommodate the mechanical changes.

Think of it more like a high-performance GT than something that is designed to best the R8. It is said to be priced in the low $100k range as well. Think like an Audi version of the 911 or GT-R more than anything else... Like and Audi RS5 Plus in theory...

 

[C4L]

You are quite right, just look at the 4 series concept compared to the actual production car.

And considering all the mechanical changes that were made, it seems reasonable. That original concept from two years was 2,800 lbs using an appx. 400hp 2.5T in a 2-seater. This new one is 4,000lbs+ using an appx. 700hp TT V8 Hybrid in a 2+2. The fact that it looks even remotely similar is quite nice.

And I know I would prefer the former specs (and looks) to the latter, that previous concept was rumored to be priced at $250k at the time and cost more than $4m to build. This new one is said to cost from a bit over $100k...

 

[C4L]

I am the only one who really likes it (other than the weight, but then again, a GTR is fat as well)???

This car is going to be insanely quick, and the looks are pretty hot imo. A straight up Nissan GTR rival. Bloody awesome.





Changes aren't big...
Changes are like one could expect going from a concept to a production car.

I don't understand the overreacting.

Agreed. I am SEEING very nominal changes. Now, mechanically, the car is entirely different and I won't argue that...

 

[Deckhook]

It's a crying shame that Audi hadn't done something different with this concept and instead of the conventional quattro system used they could have used the engine to power only the rear wheels and used the electric motors to solely power the front. What this would have allowed is the engine to be mounted further back improving weight distribution and since most of the total power would remain at the rear it would feel like a rear wheel driven sportscar that gets a little help by the front only when needed in the corners.

 

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[mini_cooper4]

Change the lights for the production version, give some other color and rim choices and you have a stunning machine!
It's still a heavy pig tho

 

[Tumbo]

Change the lights for the production version, give some other color and rim choices and you have a stunning machine!
It's still a heavy pig tho

Exactly. That should be the biggest change.

And of course, those lights are hideous. Give them back to BMW!

 

[Deckhook]

That interior is remarkably production ready. Digging the dial options.