Pictures Audi A7 2018 vs. BMW 6—Series GT

[Kowalski]

Since I have been rated a drama queen, then I may as well be the best drama queen by saying that the 6-series hatchback, which I refuse to call it a "GT" because it isn't one, really and truly is a BMW Vectra because I fall asleep looking at it.

 

[SDNR]

All I know is, the guy who designed that 6er GT is a frikken legend.
It must be the one of the most difficult concepts to style given the innately unwieldy proportions borne, in turn, out of necessity to satisfy the capaciousness brief.

Yes, that is a good point, it is an adaption of an existing model after all.

I still think the 6er Gran Coupé is one of the very best looking 4-door cars in the world right now.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

While BMWs' 6GT may have an appeal to a more...*ahem*..."mature" target audience, it is a car that strikes me as being "neither here nor there". A bit of an oddball. If anything, it may compare to M-Bs' now discontinued (I think) R-Class (although the R-Class lacked a "fast" C-pillar). And the 6GT should be attractive as, for example, a hotel courtesy vehicle.

The A7 should appeal to a far broader, highly design infatuated, self-driving audience. It is a bonafide 4 door fast/liftback "sedoupe" that boasts diminished height and increased width versus its' sedan counterpart.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

I still think the 6er Gran Coupé is one of the very best looking 4-door cars in the world right now.

In M6 GC form with its' wider track, it certainly is absolutely gorgeous.

 

[SDNR]

In M6 GC form with its' wider track, it certainly is absolutely gorgeous.

When is the new model due?

 

[Deleted member 1071]

When is the new model due?

Should the M6 GC be replaced, its' successor would be the M8 GC (that is, should the 8 series GC get greenlighted for production). According to speculation in the automotive press, mid-2019 appears to be the approximate presentation date for the 8 series GC-with the M8 GC following in early 2020. All conjecture at this point.

 

[SDNR]

Should the M6 GC be replaced, its' successor would be the M8 GC (that is, should the 8 series GC get greenlighted for production). According to speculation in the automotive press, mid-2019 appears to be the approximate presentation date for the 8 series GC-with the M8 GC following in early 2020. All conjecture at this point.

Thanks for that. I am a little bit behind on BMW news

 

[Deleted member 1071]

It just never seems to get old, does it ?

 

[SCOTT27]

It just never seems to get old, does it ?

No it never does. It still is and will be perfection.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

LOL at @hovabongZA

Why are you not saying the 6er GC is the rival to the A7?

The 6er GT is essentially a 5 Series with a higher driving position and more leg room. The A7 takes the A6 as its base and does the OPPOSITE, namely lowers the roofline, and makes it a sportier A6.

Not really sure what you're talking about to be honest and neither do most other people from the look of it.

 

[hovabongZA]

LOL at @hovabongZA

Why are you not saying the 6er GC is the rival to the A7?

The 6er GT is essentially a 5 Series with a higher driving position and more leg room. The A7 takes the A6 as its base and does the OPPOSITE, namely lowers the roofline, and makes it a sportier A6.

Not really sure what you're talking about to be honest and neither do most other people from the look of it.

There you go with your usual self, arguing for the sake of it and trying to get validation for your opinions from other members.

Cool, you think the 6GT is not a competitor to A7, I think it is. Clearly we won’t agree on this so don’t drag it .Let’s leave it at that ....capisce?

 

[chonkoa]

First there was a 6er GC, then the press compared the 6er GC to the A7 and the CLS.
Next there was BMW saying thou shall not compare the 6er GC to the A7 and CLS.
Then came 6er GT, and now BMW is saying 6er GT is an alternative to A7 and the CLS.
I wonder what has changed?
Second bite at the apple it seems.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

There you go with your usual self, arguing for the sake of it and trying to get validation for your opinions from other members.

Er, no. Not arguing for the sake of it. This is a discussion forum. If nobody discussed anything then we may as well go home.

And not trying to get anything from other people. I didn't ask anybody to agree with me. They did that of their own volition. It's bonkers that you think the 6er GT is a direct rival to the A7. Bonkers. And I've explained why. You've done bugger all.

And you still haven't answered why you've ignored the 6er GC being the natural competitor with the A7.

You really do get worked up about things that don't necessitate it. Maybe forums aren't for you?

 

[SDNR]

There you go with your usual self, arguing for the sake of it and trying to get validation for your opinions from other members.

Cool, you think the 6GT is not a competitor to A7, I think it is. Clearly we won’t agree on this so don’t drag it .Let’s leave it at that ....capisce?

It is an interesting argument.

It is obvious that Audi are wanting the A7 to be seen as a stand-alone model rather than a 4-door coupé of the A6. This has to be emphasised by the fact this new A7 is being released before the next generation A6. The 6er GT sits in the A6's segment - whereas the next 6er GC (as Jimmy informed me above) will become an 8er.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Cool, you think the 6GT is not a competitor to A7, I think it is. Clearly we won’t agree on this so don’t drag it .Let’s leave it at that ....capisce?

Actually, I never said that. DO NOT misquote me.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

It is an interesting argument.

It is obvious that Audi are wanting the A7 to be seen as a stand-alone model rather than a 4-door coupé of the A6. This has to be emphasised when this new A7 is being released before the next generation A6. The 6er GT sits in the A6's segment - whereas the next 6er GC (as Jimmy informed me above) will become an 8er.

That's irrelevant. How Audi position the A7 has no impact on whether the 6er GT is a direct rival and THE BMW competitor to the A7. It's not. Period. And the previous A7 was launched before the A6. A launch date doesn't indicate anything.

The 6er GC is the direct rival to the A7, and when production stops BMW will not have a direct rival to the A7. When the 8er GC is launched, that may too be a direct rival to the A7. Just because BMW stick a number "8" on it won't change that.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

I just can't seem to help myself when it comes to the M6 Gran Coupe. It simply mesmerizes me. And it may be one of the most difficult acts for BMW to follow.

I perceive this car as being the most beautiful 4 door BMW to have ever left a Dingolfing production line. And it still looks so...fresh. It's a bit odd that I do not feel this way about the standard 6 series GC.

Revisiting a flame:

 

[SDNR]

That's irrelevant. How Audi position the A7 has no impact on whether the 6er GT is a direct rival and THE BMW competitor to the A7. It's not. Period. And the previous A7 was launched before the A6. A launch date doesn't indicate anything.

The 6er GC is the direct rival to the A7, and when production stops BMW will not have a direct rival to the A7. When the 8er GC is launched, that may too be a direct rival to the A7. Just because BMW stick a number "8" on it won't change that.

You are correct about the release of the first generation A7.
However, I do believe the A7 is perceived as being closer to the A8 than the A6 (almost like a 4-door coupé A8). I also believe the 6er GC is perceived as being closer to the 7er than the 6er GT.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

You are correct about the release of the first generation A7.
However, I do believe the A7 is perceived as being closer to the A8 than the A6 (almost like a 4-door coupé A8). I also believe the 6er GC is perceived as being closer to the 7er than the 6er GT.

Don't fall for the BMW marketing. If anything the 6er GT is closer to the 7er than the 6er GC is. Just because BMW stick twenty thousand big ones on to the price tag of the 6er GC, it doesn't make it similar to the 7 Series.


Anyway, this is all just distraction. It doesn't change the fact that THE competitor to the A7 is the 6er GC, not the 6er GT.

Next @hovabongZA will be saying the THE competitor to the A5 Sportback is the 3er GT.

 

[SDNR]

Don't fall for the BMW marketing. If anything the 6er GT is closer to the 7er than the 6er GC is. Just because BMW stick twenty thousand big ones on to the price tag of the 6er GC, it doesn't make it similar to the 7 Series.

Well now you've made me curious.

Wouldn't that mean it is reasonable to call the 6er GT a rival of the A7? ...and not so "bonkers" after all.