Anyone else affected by London Riots?

[LaArtist]

^I know that you are allowed to carry a gun in the US..
But how far does the law protect you if you really shoot and kill someone?
I mean what does the other part have to do..so that you walk free even if you shoot them out of this life?

 

[K-A]

You're not allowed to carry out here, unless you have hard to acquire permits. In Texas, for example the rules of shooting an intruder are very much in favor of the innocent. In CA, the rules for shooting an intruder are favoring the criminal, as you can get in trouble for it (which is pathetic). I hate guns for the reasons that they are overly celebrated and obsessed about, always in a negative/volatile connotation, but when they are finally used for good, is when there should no doubt as to the validity of their use (protecting yourself, or in London's case, actually protecting your INNOCENT CITIZENS).

 

[Wunderkind]

If the riots of Los Angeles 20 years is any guide, London will make a speedy recovery and things will get back to normal in a few weeks.

 

[Gullwing]

^I know that you are allowed to carry a gun in the US..
But how far does the law protect you if you really shoot and kill someone?
I mean what does the other part have to do..so that you walk free even if you shoot them out of this life?

In several states if you are over 18 or 21 and not a felon you can concealed carry a handgun without a permit. If convicted of a felony you can not own a gun. In most other states you need to be over 21 and have a permit to concealed carry. Many states allow you to open carry without permits.
Rules about shooting people differ between states. Some states, if a criminal breaks into your house you can shoot without question, some you need to have the criminal attacking you and you unable to get away, while others (CA) you are pretty well screwed if you do and screwed if you don't. Laws also differ between states while outside of your home. Some you are legal to defend yourself on a public street if threatened, others you must try and run away, some (CA) bend over and take it.
Even if you are, say walking down the street and 5 convicted felons with illegally possessed handguns come up and state they are going to rob you, rape your wife and kill you both, you will still probably be forced to go through a long drawn out trial to clear your self. It is not the wild west where you could kill someone because he drew a gun on you and you just walk away without anything happening. Plus in many states the criminal's family can even sue you for defending yourself.
Better to be judged by 12 then carried by six.

Concealed carry permit (CCW) is similar to drivers license, you must go through training and pass a test, then the sheriffs office does a in depth background check.

 

[Gullwing]

If the riots of Los Angeles 20 years is any guide, London will make a speedy recovery and things will get back to normal in a few weeks.

Yes but many of the areas hit by riots in 1992 still haven't recovered.

 

[Centurion]

If the riots of Los Angeles 20 years is any guide, London will make a speedy recovery and things will get back to normal in a few weeks.

London is already back to normal. The riots only affected a small minority of people living on high streets where the vandalism and looting took place.

 

[Wunderkind]

London is already back to normal. The riots only affected a small minority of people living on high streets where the vandalism and looting took place.

Thank god, just hope things don't escalate and divide the society.

 

[LaArtist]

In several states if you are over 18 or 21 and not a felon you can concealed carry a handgun without a permit. If convicted of a felony you can not own a gun. In most other states you need to be over 21 and have a permit to concealed carry. Many states allow you to open carry without permits.
Rules about shooting people differ between states. Some states, if a criminal breaks into your house you can shoot without question, some you need to have the criminal attacking you and you unable to get away, while others (CA) you are pretty well screwed if you do and screwed if you don't. Laws also differ between states while outside of your home. Some you are legal to defend yourself on a public street if threatened, others you must try and run away, some (CA) bend over and take it.
Even if you are, say walking down the street and 5 convicted felons with illegally possessed handguns come up and state they are going to rob you, rape your wife and kill you both, you will still probably be forced to go through a long drawn out trial to clear your self. It is not the wild west where you could kill someone because he drew a gun on you and you just walk away without anything happening. Plus in many states the criminal's family can even sue you for defending yourself.
Better to be judged by 12 then carried by six.

Concealed carry permit (CCW) is similar to drivers license, you must go through training and pass a test, then the sheriffs office does a in depth background check.

Thnx for the info..but then again.. its such a weird ass system..you can carry a gun..but you get screwed if you shoot someone..
But like you said its better to be judged than buried..
In that case you can do the same in European country's where weapons are illegal, get yourself one.. dont use it..if your life is in danger..use it..and face the trial.. at least you will be alive :s
The only additional charge you will get over here compared to most ( not all ) of US states is use and possession of illegal firearms.. but i guess its a big meeh!!! at that point

 

[Michael]

Thnx for the info..but then again.. its such a weird ass system..you can carry a gun..but you get screwed if you shoot someone..
But like you said its better to be judged than buried..
In that case you can do the same in European country's where weapons are illegal, get yourself one.. dont use it..if your life is in danger..use it..and face the trial.. at least you will be alive :s
The only additional charge you will get over here compared to most ( not all ) of US states is use and possession of illegal firearms.. but i guess its a big meeh!!! at that point

I personally have a CCW for the state of Florida. Like was already mentioned, it differs from state to state, but for the most part, you need to have a permit to conceal a a weapon. That applies to guns and knives. Also, in most states, you can shoot someone if they enter your house under the assumption of the "castle doctrine." The castle doctrine is alive and well in Florida and in other states. It basically states that if someone enters your premises, it is assumed that they are there to cause harm and your life is in danger, regardless of what their intent is, since the intent is assumed for you already.

CA is a funny state because they have interesting gun laws, which some have argued goes against the 2nd amendment.

 

[Gullwing]

Thnx for the info..but then again.. its such a weird ass system..you can carry a gun..but you get screwed if you shoot someone..

Depending on the state and circumstance police can look at what happened and send you on your way without even going to the station or haul you in and put you in jail until you are cleared. You don't want to have a system where someone shoots another and that's it, you do need checks and balance.
You could just carry without permit and just play the odds, but if caught for some other reason you can get double screwed.

Also, in most states, you can shoot someone if they enter your house under the assumption of the "castle doctrine." The castle doctrine is alive and well in Florida and in other states. It basically states that if someone enters your premises, it is assumed that they are there to cause harm and your life is in danger, regardless of what their intent is, since the intent is assumed for you already.

CA is a funny state because they have interesting gun laws, which some have argued goes against the 2nd amendment.

Castle doctrine has several levels, shoot to protect and not be charged or sued, but some states you can shoot and not be charged, but the family can sue you.

CA- interesting laws? Interesting way of putting it.

 

[bimmerlover]

Military? LOL, this is not the middle east. The police can handle those kids just fine.

Have a look at this link!!:

BBC News - London unrest: Rioters charge police in Woolwich

.. Freakin' riots are out numbering the Police