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Merc1
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I expected a big drop, but their SUVs are carrying the weight. The new GT looks like it is killing the SL. EVs are way down. GLC, GLE, GLS and C are doing the heavy lifting. The GLA must have been in short supply last year, not sure what the huge increase is about. E is way down because those coupe/cabrio sales are now going to the CLE which seems to be doing pretty good.
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I expected a big drop, but their SUVs are carrying the weight. The new GT looks like it is killing the SL. EVs are way down. GLC, GLE, GLS and C are doing the heavy lifting. The GLA must have been in short supply last year, not sure what the huge increase is about. E is way down because those coupe/cabrio sales are now going to the CLE which seems to be doing pretty good.
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kiki voinea
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So , basically BMW showed MB that it's not really a EV vs ICE issue ,but is more like a normal/good looking car instead of a bloat
Sunny
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Not something we didn't already know - https://www.motor1.com/news/736870/mercedes-ev-sales-q3-2024/
leylandi
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Japan September 2024: Mercedes G-Class up to #2 foreign model
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| Pos | Model | Q3 2024 | /23 | Q2 | 2024 | /23 | Pos | FY23 |
| 1 | Mini | 4,355 | + 3.0% | 1 | 10,876 | – 17.1% | 1 | 1 |
| 2 | Mercedes G-Class | 2,287 | + 73.3% | 20 | 4,291 | + 6.7% | 8 | 11 |
| 3 | Mercedes GLC | 1,885 | n/a | 2 | 5,437 | #VALUE! | 3 | 13 |
| 4 | BMW X1 | 1,641 | + 39.5% | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | 15 |
| 5 | BMW 3 Series | 1,597 | + 5.4% | 4 | 4,487 | – 1.4% | 6 | 6 |
| 6 | Mercedes GLB | 1,516 | + 14.6% | 5 | 4,854 | + 21.9% | 4 | 8 |
| 7 | Audi Q3 | 1,478 | + 96.3% | 6 | 4,364 | + 59.2% | 7 | 19 |
| 8 | Mercedes C-Class | 1,416 | – 32.3% | 7 | 4,536 | – 38.9% | 5 | 3 |
| 9 | Mercedes E-Class | 1,342 | n/a | 8 | 3,851 | #VALUE! | 10 | n/a |
| 10 | Volvo S/V/XC60 | 1,261 | – 6.9% | 10 | 3,860 | – 20.4% | 9 | 7 |
| 11 | Volvo XC40 | 1,063 | – 23.5% | 17 | 2,957 | – 36.3% | n/a | 10 |
| 12 | VW Golf | 1,058 | – 68.2% | 3 | 5,708 | – 20.6% | 2 | 2 |
| 13 | Mercedes GLA | 1,004 | – 17.6% | 13 | 3,078 | + 2.1% | 12 | 17 |
| 14 | VW T-Roc | 963 | – 62.4% | 9 | 3,590 | – 29.9% | 11 | 4 |
| 15 | Porsche 911 | 815 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| 16 | Land Rover Defender 110 | 785 | – 32.3% | n/a | 2,718 | – 9.5% | n/a | 18 |
| 17 | BMW X2 | 780 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| 18 | Audi A4 | 737 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| 19 | Fiat 500 | 725 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| 20 | Audi Q5 | 725 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
Japan September 2024: Mercedes G-Class up to #2 foreign model, Honda N-Box #1 overall
The Mercedes G-Class is the 2nd best-selling foreign model in Japan over Q3. The Japanese new vehicle market stabilises in September at +0.3% too 438,733 sales. The year-to-date tally remains in fr…
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The New G was launched in July in Japan, so Q3 is probably a reflection of that initial demand waiting for a new model.
Mercedes EV model sales are a disaster, they sold less than half of BMW EV sold. The EQS sold a massive 50% less than last year in the US, means something is seriously wrong. All that investment and meagre sales will bring them big losses.
klier
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Hmmm....what could possibly be wrong. I don't understand!1!!
It's an icon with a facelift. But yeah it's remarkable for sure considering the price of the thing. It costs like as much as the top 7 combined.
As for BMW, I guess the new X3 and new 5er aren't a thing yet there? Kind of weird to not see those in the top 20.
leylandi
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Stellantis Year-on-year volumes drop by 25%, driving European new car registrations down by 3% in September
Demand for BEVs (battery electric vehicles) rebounded in Europe in September as buyers reacted positively to incentives, despite ongoing concerns about the future of electric cars on the continent.
www.jato.com
klier
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TOKYO, Oct 30 (Reuters) -
Tundra trucks and Sequoia SUV's exit the assembly line as finished products at Toyota's truck plant in San Antonio, Texas, U.S. April 17, 2023.
Toyota Motor (7203.T), opens new tab said on Wednesday its worldwide production fell for an eighth straight month in September, as both sales and output declined in its two biggest markets, the United States and China.
The Japanese automaker's global output for September fell 8% compared to the same month a year earlier to 826,556 vehicles, with U.S. production down 14% and that in China dropping 19%.
U.S. output suffered from a production and delivery suspension of the Grand Highlander and Lexus TX sport utility vehicles due to an airbag issue.
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Toyota worldwide output drops for 8th straight month in September
Tundra trucks and Sequoia SUV's exit the assembly line as finished products at Toyota's truck plant in San Antonio, Texas, U.S. April 17, 2023.
Toyota Motor (7203.T), opens new tab said on Wednesday its worldwide production fell for an eighth straight month in September, as both sales and output declined in its two biggest markets, the United States and China.
The Japanese automaker's global output for September fell 8% compared to the same month a year earlier to 826,556 vehicles, with U.S. production down 14% and that in China dropping 19%.
U.S. output suffered from a production and delivery suspension of the Grand Highlander and Lexus TX sport utility vehicles due to an airbag issue.
More at the link:
Toyota worldwide output drops for 8th straight month in September
All of the legacy car makers are making massive losses in China. The way it's going they will all be bankrupt in China within the next 3 to 5 years and pull their businesses out from there. Chinese people are all becoming nationalists and want to only buy their own car brands which are expanding at a massive pace due to the huge incentives they getting from the Chinese Government.
At the moment all I see is the US and European Union are trying to stop the Chinese imports with tariffs. Instead of complaining about it why don't they do the same as the Chinese and provide a massive stimulation program with incentives to help their car manufacturers sell at lower prices and this will automatically make more people keen to buy the legacy cars in the US and Europe ahead of the Chinese new entries.
Q
I wonder why Tesla sales have dropped so much this month in the UK?
Quite amazed to see how Ford and Vauxhall have both fallen from the top of the sales chart in the UK. Both those brands were the darlings of the UK but now VW is tops, Audi in 2nd and BMW 3rd, boy how times have changed.UK, Oct 24, YTD via SMMT
I wonder why Tesla sales have dropped so much this month in the UK?
Puma is still the best selling car here this year. But yeah, the doom and gloom of the German car industry doesn't really show in our numbers here.
Not sure about Tesla, their figures used to fluctuate a lot based on when the shipments came in, but I thought that had stabilised a bit.
The EQ sales in China are an absolute disaster at the moment. Mercedes should be very worried for the failure of their EQ range in the US and China.
Mercedes EQ models are slow sellers in China
Mercedes EQ sales collapse dramatically – despite high discounts
Mercedes sells the Mercedes EQE in China with up to 40%. In Germany there is between 0 and 3%.
Despite MBUX and the huge MBUX Hyperscreen, Chinese customers are not keen on the EQE or EQS. This also applies to the SUV models of the EVA2 models.
In a market with over a billion inhabitants, Mercedes did not sell a single EQE sedan in October.
The other models EQA and EQB as well as EQS, EQE SUV are also in the lower three-digit or even only double-digit range.
One could now say that customers don't want electric cars - but that's far from the truth. In China, NEVs (New Energy Vehicles) are booming. The growth rates here are a phenomenal 60% and Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW and Porsche are simply not present here.
It is said that parents still buy German combustion engines and children are proud of their own electric cars. Only Tesla continues to sell between 30,000 and 45,000 cars a month in China. They are actually the only Western car manufacturer that is still successful in China. Even the sales figures of smart #1, #3 and now #5 are intoxicating compared to Mercedes, but in absolute terms not great either, even though the vehicles are developed and produced in China.
The Mercedes EQE and EQS sedans have outstanding aerodynamics and long ranges. When the update to eATS2.0 and 800 volts (platform update to EVA2M ) comes along, they are truly state-of-the-art. But is it of any use to them?
I think the EQE and EQS sedans have a problem all over the world. They don't convey enough status to customers (or they don't convince with their design). This is also shown by the significant drop in sales in the USA.
In summary:
Whether VW, Audi, Porsche, BMW or Mercedes, we will probably never see market shares in China return to the level they were before the Corona crisis.
The sales figures analysis of the Mercedes EQ models:
The EV numbers in China from Jan-Sept 24 are around 50% lower than in Germany, although for Mercedes the Chinese market is around twice the size of Germany.
Compared to the three quarters of 2023, sales in 2024 (Jan-Sept) fell by 22%, although the NEV market in China recently grew by 60%.
The numbers in recent months do not look very good for the EQE sedan.
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Mercedes EQ models are slow sellers in China
Mercedes EQ sales collapse dramatically – despite high discounts
Mercedes sells the Mercedes EQE in China with up to 40%. In Germany there is between 0 and 3%.
Despite MBUX and the huge MBUX Hyperscreen, Chinese customers are not keen on the EQE or EQS. This also applies to the SUV models of the EVA2 models.
In a market with over a billion inhabitants, Mercedes did not sell a single EQE sedan in October.
The other models EQA and EQB as well as EQS, EQE SUV are also in the lower three-digit or even only double-digit range.
One could now say that customers don't want electric cars - but that's far from the truth. In China, NEVs (New Energy Vehicles) are booming. The growth rates here are a phenomenal 60% and Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW and Porsche are simply not present here.
It is said that parents still buy German combustion engines and children are proud of their own electric cars. Only Tesla continues to sell between 30,000 and 45,000 cars a month in China. They are actually the only Western car manufacturer that is still successful in China. Even the sales figures of smart #1, #3 and now #5 are intoxicating compared to Mercedes, but in absolute terms not great either, even though the vehicles are developed and produced in China.
The Mercedes EQE and EQS sedans have outstanding aerodynamics and long ranges. When the update to eATS2.0 and 800 volts (platform update to EVA2M ) comes along, they are truly state-of-the-art. But is it of any use to them?
I think the EQE and EQS sedans have a problem all over the world. They don't convey enough status to customers (or they don't convince with their design). This is also shown by the significant drop in sales in the USA.
In summary:
- The Mercedes EQ design is not well received worldwide (with the exception of EQA and EQB in Europe)
- Western manufacturers are currently having an extremely difficult time in China
Whether VW, Audi, Porsche, BMW or Mercedes, we will probably never see market shares in China return to the level they were before the Corona crisis.
The sales figures analysis of the Mercedes EQ models:
| Jan-Sept 2023 | Jan-Sept 2024 | of which Germany | of which USA | of which China | |
| smart fortwo | 3,136 | ||||
| EQA | 7,823 | 2,387 | |||
| EQB | 5,081 | 6,761 | 3,070 | ||
| EQE | 6,219 | 10,688 | 8,863 | ||
| EQS | 1,879 | 6,296 | |||
| EQV | 1,644 | ||||
| G 580 EQ | 32 | ||||
| sum | 175,000 | 137,000 | 25,814 | 23,745 | 14,037 |
Compared to the three quarters of 2023, sales in 2024 (Jan-Sept) fell by 22%, although the NEV market in China recently grew by 60%.
| China production | EQE SUV | EQE sedan |
| Jan 24 | 1444 | 715 |
| Feb 24 | 293 | 364 |
| Mar 24 | 361 | 411 |
| Apr 24 | 1664 | 868 |
| May 24 | 689 | 166 |
| Jun 24 | 770 | 13 |
| Jul 24 | 83 | 7 |
| Aug 24 | 689 | 2 |
| Sep 24 | 321 | 3 |
Mercedes EQ Modelle sind Ladenhüter in China
Mercedes EQ Verkäufe brechen dramatisch ein – trotz hoher Rabatte - die EQE Limousine läuft gar nicht gut
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kiki voinea
Cornering Connoisseur
After seeing dozens of reviews of chinese cars , I'm starting to believe that the main issue is price.
Just saw the Zeekr 001 . Why would a chinese dude buy an EQE over Zeekr 001 ?
That car is 37k....More power , more range , more features , better design (arguably )
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