Hot! All kind of sales Audi / BMW / Mercedes

[dalab]

It's "only" 5.5% of total sales, (which is big), based on those figures.

The ratio of annual EVs increase vs ICEs decrease indicates the obvious, but it is very difficult to calculate because it will accelerate over the years, but certainly there is still a long way to go but even that depends on how you look at it and what you compare it with.

 

[Sunny]

there is still a long way to go

Again, define "long way to go"?

 

[klier]

Define "long long long way"?


ps. VAG sold only 1.8 million non-BEVs (not 11m) in the same window. And that is down ~22% YoY (vs 65% up for BEVs).

10 years I'd say? The gap with ICE is still pretty big. But maybe focus on that in the BEV thread....sorry for derailing.

 

[dalab]

Again, define "long way to go"?

10 - 20 years
10 - the big change
20 - the rest, countries without infrastructure etc.

 

[Rolf]

The whole debacle with selling BEV cars is their high selling price. There are still many ICE cars that are cheap and cost less than 20000Euros, while most BEVs are costing 30K or more and have less driving range. I don't think many people can afford to buy cars costing those kind of prices. There is the range anxiety also to consider and the charging network not been always available like with fuel stations. Some European countries also not giving so much incentives for example for Plug In Hybrid vehicles so the prices are not competitive.

 

[Cashmere]

The whole debacle with selling BEV cars is their high selling price. There are still many ICE cars that are cheap and cost less than 20000Euros, while most BEVs are costing 30K or more and have less driving range. I don't think many people can afford to buy cars costing those kind of prices.

I wonder why nobody buys incandescent bulbs anymore despite them being dirt cheap.

 

[dalab]

I wonder why nobody buys incandescent bulbs anymore despite them being dirt cheap.

Because are they practically not manufactured anymore? and there is no sale, I haven't seen them in any store for a couple of years

it should be cheaper to produce the leds, plastic instead of glass, without vacuum, etc.
I don't know if it was a rhetorical question...

 

[Serpens]

Because are they practically not manufactured anymore? and there is no sale, I haven't seen them in any store for a couple of years

it should be cheaper to produce the leds, plastic instead of glass, without vacuum, etc.
I don't know if it was a rhetorical question...

Interesting how things vary from place to place. They're still readily available in every store in the U.S.

 

[Rolf]

I wonder why nobody buys incandescent bulbs anymore despite them being dirt cheap.

They still used by many car manufacturers for halogen bulbs.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Interesting how things vary from place to place. They're still readily available in every store in the U.S.

They are not allowed in the EU since at least 4-5 years

 

[dalab]

They are not allowed in the EU since at least 4-5 years

For reasons of high consumption?

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

For reasons of high consumption?

Yes, their efficiency is considered inappropriate.

 

[Sunny]

Europe Q1 22 BEV sales

Source

 

[dalab]

Europe Q1 22 BEV sales

Source

TESLA - 58.604
BMW -18.702
MERCEDES - 14.048
AUDI - 7.807
POLESTAR - 6.256 (With a single model it is very close to Audi)

 

[Sunny]

China Q1 22

Others

EQA 755
EQB 1,006
EQC 1,047
EQS - Couldn't find any published figures, but math* says ~500.

*Total EQS - 5k, US 2900, Europe - 1500, so China + RoW - ~600


iX3 5,684
No published figures for i4 or iX. But math* says <1500 for both.

*BMW BEVs - ~26.5k, Europe - 19k, China iX3 + US iX - 6k. So iX and i4 for China and RoW + US i4 together => ~1500

 

[dalab]

BMW And Mercedes Selling SHARE NOW Joint Venture To Stellantis

The BMW Group and Mercedes-Benz Mobility are selling their car-sharing joint venture SHARE NOW to Stellantis for an undisclosed sum.

www.bmwblog.com

 

[Sunny]

Global Q1 22 EV top 20

 

[klier]

Yes, their efficiency is considered inappropriate.

I mean, like 95% is lost. I consider that rather inappropriate too lol

Every light in my house is Philips Hue.

 

[dalab]

Audi Formula One deal with McLaren becoming unlikely, report says
The price expectations between Audi and McLaren are too far apart, a source said.

Audi F1 deal with McLaren unlikely, report says

The price expectations between Audi and McLaren are too far apart, a source said.

europe.autonews.com

 

[dalab]

Battery dependency
BMW boss Zipse sounds the alarm
Thursday, May 5, 2022 11:27 AM 5 HOURS AGO
LENNART WERMKE

The one-sided focus on electromobility could plunge the auto industry into new dependencies, BMW boss Oliver Zipse warns. What specifically is the senior manager talking about.

BMW-Chef Zipse schlägt Alarm

Die einseitige Fokussierung auf Elektromobilität könnte die Automobilbranche in neue Abhängigkeiten stürzen, warnt BMW-Chef Oliver Zipse. Wovon der Top-Manager konkret spricht.

www.automobilwoche.de

Group earnings before interest and taxes rose to 3.39 billion euros ($3.6 billion) in the first quarter, the company said Thursday.

BMW and its rivals have shifted production to higher-margin models as output has been hampered by the semiconductor shortage and other supply-chain problems.

BMW said earnings rose 12 percent in the first quarter even as the war in Ukraine and COVID lockdowns in China disrupted the automaker’s supply chain.