Tonale Alfa Romeo Tonale

[savage-It]

regarding A-R's current engines, what I gathered is their turbo-4 has generally been without major issues, but their turbo V6's in their QF cars have been hit-or-miss. How much truth there is, I don't know.

my V6 has now > 100.000 km, free of problems.I don't know where is the true. But I never heard anything bad in any Italian Forum about that engine. And many are tuned too.

 

[Giannis]

The 155 was based on the Tipo's platform. Its saving grace were the engines. While the 75 was a true Alfa. Great to drive, but when the time for changing the brake pads or the rubber joints came, everybody was crying.

Completely agree.

Everything based on the Tipo platform had the structural rigidity of a wet napkin.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Completely agree.

Everything based on the Tipo platform had the structural rigidity of a wet napkin.

When you lifted the 155 on a jack to change a tire you could not open the doors, or if they were already opened you could not close them. So soft was the body.

 

[savage-It]

and then will arrive by end of the year the Giulia and Stelvio restyling.....
From Autopareri forum

 

[SCOTT27]

and then will arrive by end of the year the Giulia and Stelvio restyling.....
From Autopareri forum

That’s really going to enhance the Giulia and Stelvio. I take it the rear will be similar to the Tonale too?

 

[Antti]

and then will arrive by end of the year the Giulia and Stelvio restyling.....
From Autopareri forum

Cheapskates. Couldn’t even be bothered to reshape the bumper to fit Tonale-style headlights, so this way they can use the old bumpers with the new lights.

 

[dalab]

Cheapskates. Couldn’t even be bothered to reshape the bumper to fit Tonale-style headlights, so this way they can use the old bumpers with the new lights.

I think the same, the Chinese change and copy bumpers every day. they invest
The "great change and bet" announced by the new directive towards Alfa is nowhere to be seen, also taking into account that the silhouette of the current lights of the Giulia were, in my opinion, the least salvageable of the design

 

[Antti]

I think the same, the Chinese change and copy bumpers every day. they invest
The "great change and bet" announced by the new directive towards Alfa is nowhere to be seen, also taking into account that the silhouette of the current lights of the Giulia were, in my opinion, the least salvageable of the design

Absolutely. The headlight design (including the outline) is the worst aspect of the Giulia. And now they are only half-changing it because they don’t want to invest in new plastic moulds.

in a way I understand it though. The Giorgio platform was not designed with any kind of electrification in mind. Therefore it will be axed soon and it makes no sense to invest heavily in it anymore. I’m more looking forward to the first actual Stellantis platform sports sedan - when ever that might come out.

 

[Serpens]

Absolutely. The headlight design (including the outline) is the worst aspect of the Giulia. And now they are only half-changing it because they don’t want to invest in new plastic moulds.

in a way I understand it though. The Giorgio platform was not designed with any kind of electrification in mind. Therefore it will be axed soon and it makes no sense to invest heavily in it anymore. I’m more looking forward to the first actual Stellantis platform sports sedan - when ever that might come out.

I’m still not entirely clear on Giorgio’s capabilities. It’s a common thing to say it wasn’t made for electrification yet the Grecale is coming in full EV form.

 

[Merc1]

It's good looking IMO.

M

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Having that Chinese driver will help them sell cars in China.

 

[Centurion]

Not gonna lie. they nailed the front end. Looking forward to seeing similar headlights on the Giulia.

 

[SCOTT27]

Having that Chinese driver will help them sell cars in China.

Yeah if they can get Edmund Pevensie it will even help them sell cars in Narnia.

 

[SCOTT27]

I thought we would be past this by now.

The re-badged Alfa Romeo Tonale now known as the Dodge Dart. This will do wonders for Alfa Romeo’s sales in the US.

 

[Serpens]

I thought we would be past this by now.

The re-badged Alfa Romeo Tonale now known as the Dodge Dart. This will do wonders for Alfa Romeo’s sales in the US.

Dodge Hornet, not Dart. But yes very curious that the bodies are so similar...I wonder how they're going to pitch this. Dodge has been focused on muscle cars and loud noises this last decade.

 

[martinbo]

Stellantis is steadily becoming the purveyor of the world’s shittest cars.
I saw the green toenail at NYIAS and it was instantly forgettable. I also need to make a TikTok of me unclipping the side trimming of the centre console on the new Grand Cherokee. Oh good Lordy.

 

[Serpens]

Stellantis is steadily becoming the purveyor of the world’s shittest cars.
I saw the green toenail at NYIAS and it was instantly forgettable. I also need to make a TikTok of me unclipping the side trimming of the centre console on the new Grand Cherokee. Oh good Lordy.

Meh there was only so much they were going to change with these vehicles that were already basically done under FCA leadership.

 

[Tourbillon]

Alfa Romeo Tonale tops ANCAP tests!

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The Alfa Romeo Tonale, due to arrive in New Zealand this month, has scored top marks in safety testing with a 5-star ANCAP rating.

"Alfa's small SUV performed well in all four key areas of assessment, offering good all-round performance for the protection of adult and child occupants and vulnerable road users, and for their ability to actively avoid a crash through standard-fit collision avoidance systems.

“The five-star ANCAP safety rating for the Alfa Romeo Tonale sees it added to a growing list of Small SUVs with strong and green safety credentials,” said ANCAP Chief Executive Officer, Carla Hoorweg.

The Tonale's top rating in the Australian safety evaluation adds to the Stellantis brand's run high scores, with the Giulia and Stelvio have also achieving 5-star ANCAP ratings.

“We are very pleased that the extensive safety features inherent in our Alfa Romeo Tonale Hybrid have now been recognised here in Australia," said Billy Hayes, Stellantis' senior vice president, India and Asia Pacific Region.

The Tonale, which is named after one of Italy's highest mountain passes, sits on a heavily re-engineered version of the Jeep Compass platform and is powered by a 1.5-litre petrol engine with hybrid technology that includes a 0.8kWh battery and a 15kW electric motor; while Alfa calls it a "mild hybrid", the separate electric motor means the vehicle can in fact travel on electric power alone for very short distances.


The powertrain produces 118kW/240Nm, with a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox. Alfa Romeo claims "diesel-like" fuel economy of 5.6l/100km.

The Tonale is set to arrive in New Zealand this month in two specification levels: the $59,990 Ti and the $66,990 Veloce, with both qualifying for a $2129 Clean Car Discount thanks to the 48-volt hybrid technology. A plug-in hybrid electric vehicle (PHEV) version is expected later this year."

Interesting.

 

[dalab]

Would someone say that it is also a Tonale?

I don't know the prices in the USA, but the difference between the Doge and the Alfa must be equal to changing the hood, lights and bumper to make it the Alfa

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[Ghost1]

Is it an rwd based platform?