M3/M4 [Official] 2021 BMW M3 and M4 [G80 & G82]
The BMW M3 is a high-performance version of the BMW 3 Series, developed by BMW's in-house motorsport division, BMW M GmbH. M3 models have been produced for every generation of 3 Series since the E30 M3 was introduced in 1986.
The BMW M4 is a high-performance version of the BMW 4 Series automobile developed by BMW's motorsport division, BMW M, that has been built since 2014. As part of the renumbering that splits the coupé and convertible variants of the 3 Series into the 4 Series, the M4 replaced those variants of the BMW M3. Official website: BMW M
hoffmeister_fan
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Perhaps I've stated it on here before, but the Touring is as if the Z3 M clown-shoe grew up. I want this so baaaaadly.
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M240i xDrive (tuned) or G87 M2. Though he's now more of a wagon fan than coupe's.
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Stunning colour.
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Tested: 2023 BMW M4 CSL Is a Track Monster
The pinnacle M4 is fearsome on the track but tiresome elsewhere.
BY DAN EDMUNDS PUBLISHED: FEB 28, 2023
www.caranddriver.com
"One tour around the BMW M4 CSL is all you need to size it up. With its Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R tires, prominent ducktail spoiler, and deep front splitter, the CSL is clearly a track-focused thoroughbred. That impression continues inside, with an empty space where the rear seat used to be and standard carbon-fiber front buckets that scoot fore and aft but require an allen wrench for any angular or height adjustments. Lift the hood and you'll realize it's an immaculately built hunk of carbon fiber (as is the trunk), with stripes on top that are merely unpainted swaths that show through. A plastic engine cover blocks your view of the 543-hp twin-turbo 3.0-liter inline-six, but the exquisite birdcage brace that connects the radiator core support, strut towers, and firewall is worth its own Instagram post.
On the test track, the launch control's synchronization of the engine and transmission isn't fully baked. We gained a few tenths by going full Skywalker and switching off launch control, regulating wheelspin with our right foot and manually pulling the upshift trigger.
Still, the 3.3-second 60-mph result trails the M4 Competition xDrive and its superior all-wheel-drive launch by a half-second. The setback is temporary. Leave your foot in it, and the CSL draws even at 6.9 seconds to 100 mph, then pulls well clear after that, hitting 120 mph in just 9.5 seconds and 150 mph in only 15.4 ticks.
The Cup 2 R tires utterly bolt down the CSL to the tune of 1.10 g's around the skidpad. But the Bimmer's 148-foot stop from 70 mph is only two feet better than what the M4 Competition xDrive managed. From 100 mph, however, the CSL's 278-foot stop bests the xDrive's by a full 24 feet. Put all of that together and it's no wonder this bad boy clocked a 2:47.5 at Lightning Lap (where the dash to 60 mph means little) to become the quickest BMW around the place.
But that doesn't necessarily mean a riotous good time on California's canyon roads, which are less than racetrack smooth. The car has a hard time putting down power if corner exits have any imperfections, and it seemingly hates getting out of tight hairpins, where echoes of its transmission hesitancy make their presence known. Despite weighing 1483 pounds more, a BMW i4 M50 we took through the same section strikes us as being much more engaging and compliant, plus quicker point to point. The CSL feels somewhat more connected when the corners are smooth and flowing, and the powerful brakes never give up when you're charging back downhill through tight sections. But this BMW is never a grin machine.
What unseals the deal is what you must tolerate driving home after the adrenaline drains away. The CSL tramlines like a slot car. The fixed buckets become a literal pain in the ass. And the ride is so unforgiving that even the softest mode is the very definition of head toss. Finally, we'd actually prefer a cupholder over the wireless phone charger, especially since the seat's weird central ridge makes the old-school thigh-clamp method untenable.
Track focus can go too far.
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 112.5 in
Length: 188.7 in
Width: 75.6 in
Height: 54.6 in
Trunk Volume: 12 ft3
Curb Weight: 3580 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 3.3 sec
100 mph: 6.9 sec
1/4-Mile: 11.2 sec @ 131 mph
130 mph: 11.1 sec
150 mph: 15.4 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 4.4 sec
Top Speed (mfr's claim): 191 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 148 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 278 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 1.10 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 17 mpg
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 18/16/23 mpg."
The pinnacle M4 is fearsome on the track but tiresome elsewhere.
BY DAN EDMUNDS PUBLISHED: FEB 28, 2023
Tested: 2023 BMW M4 CSL Is a Track Monster
The pinnacle M4 is fearsome on the track but tiresome elsewhere.
"One tour around the BMW M4 CSL is all you need to size it up. With its Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R tires, prominent ducktail spoiler, and deep front splitter, the CSL is clearly a track-focused thoroughbred. That impression continues inside, with an empty space where the rear seat used to be and standard carbon-fiber front buckets that scoot fore and aft but require an allen wrench for any angular or height adjustments. Lift the hood and you'll realize it's an immaculately built hunk of carbon fiber (as is the trunk), with stripes on top that are merely unpainted swaths that show through. A plastic engine cover blocks your view of the 543-hp twin-turbo 3.0-liter inline-six, but the exquisite birdcage brace that connects the radiator core support, strut towers, and firewall is worth its own Instagram post.
On the test track, the launch control's synchronization of the engine and transmission isn't fully baked. We gained a few tenths by going full Skywalker and switching off launch control, regulating wheelspin with our right foot and manually pulling the upshift trigger.
Still, the 3.3-second 60-mph result trails the M4 Competition xDrive and its superior all-wheel-drive launch by a half-second. The setback is temporary. Leave your foot in it, and the CSL draws even at 6.9 seconds to 100 mph, then pulls well clear after that, hitting 120 mph in just 9.5 seconds and 150 mph in only 15.4 ticks.
The Cup 2 R tires utterly bolt down the CSL to the tune of 1.10 g's around the skidpad. But the Bimmer's 148-foot stop from 70 mph is only two feet better than what the M4 Competition xDrive managed. From 100 mph, however, the CSL's 278-foot stop bests the xDrive's by a full 24 feet. Put all of that together and it's no wonder this bad boy clocked a 2:47.5 at Lightning Lap (where the dash to 60 mph means little) to become the quickest BMW around the place.
But that doesn't necessarily mean a riotous good time on California's canyon roads, which are less than racetrack smooth. The car has a hard time putting down power if corner exits have any imperfections, and it seemingly hates getting out of tight hairpins, where echoes of its transmission hesitancy make their presence known. Despite weighing 1483 pounds more, a BMW i4 M50 we took through the same section strikes us as being much more engaging and compliant, plus quicker point to point. The CSL feels somewhat more connected when the corners are smooth and flowing, and the powerful brakes never give up when you're charging back downhill through tight sections. But this BMW is never a grin machine.
What unseals the deal is what you must tolerate driving home after the adrenaline drains away. The CSL tramlines like a slot car. The fixed buckets become a literal pain in the ass. And the ride is so unforgiving that even the softest mode is the very definition of head toss. Finally, we'd actually prefer a cupholder over the wireless phone charger, especially since the seat's weird central ridge makes the old-school thigh-clamp method untenable.
Track focus can go too far.
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 112.5 in
Length: 188.7 in
Width: 75.6 in
Height: 54.6 in
Trunk Volume: 12 ft3
Curb Weight: 3580 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 3.3 sec
100 mph: 6.9 sec
1/4-Mile: 11.2 sec @ 131 mph
130 mph: 11.1 sec
150 mph: 15.4 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 4.4 sec
Top Speed (mfr's claim): 191 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 148 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 278 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 1.10 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 17 mpg
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 18/16/23 mpg."
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In other words, don't waste your money.
Go buy a G82 and fit aftermarket springs and shocks that will perfect the car for your driving style on the roads that you drive on.
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SCOTT27
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Curious one here. As I remember on another forum that an Individual US request for Frozen Deep Green was denied because of its exclusivity to the M5 CS. Intriguing to hear the current response? OK now M5CS Production ended? VIP customer? Purchased a 3.0 CSL just to get this colour? Endless possibilities.
Stunning colour.
Or could it just be a wrap?
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As the brand established very clearly, CSL is primarily focused on the track, the Competition is a benchmark to go out on Sundays on mountain routes and enter the neighborhood track from time to time and the CS is a little more hardcore than the competition, for those are also limited editions, those seats are wonderful for the purpose of that particular car.
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Seems several have checked the individual box on the M3 Touring. Think of the money BMW M has made with the various options chosen by customers.
British Racing Green
Daytona Violet
Frozen Deep Green
Mint Green
To determine the suitability of this colour they should have went to a Fiat partner to see how awful it is on the 500. And then maybe realised that it’s too much on an automobile of this calibre.
Finally a Touring in São Paulo Yellow.
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British Racing Green
Daytona Violet
Frozen Deep Green
Mint Green
To determine the suitability of this colour they should have went to a Fiat partner to see how awful it is on the 500. And then maybe realised that it’s too much on an automobile of this calibre.
Finally a Touring in São Paulo Yellow.
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That photo in techno violet, wow my jaw dropped, despite the fact that touring is not my preference, it has from some angles a sign that it stomps very hard and will attract attention like few others...... the Beautiful RS6 would be the only other todaySeems several have checked the individual box on the M3 Touring. Think of the money BMW M has made with the various options chosen by customers.
British Racing Green
Daytona Violet
Frozen Deep Green
Mint Green
To determine the suitability of this colour they should have went to a Fiat partner to see how awful it is on the 500. And then maybe realised that it’s too much on an automobile of this calibre.
Finally a Touring in São Paulo Yellow.
@bundk.de
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Austin Yellow would look magnificent on the Touring. Just magnificent.
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I don't know why I find the snout or some of the colours less offensive on the Touring. It has the best 3/4 front or rear of any bimmer.
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BMW M GmbH, formerly known as BMW Motorsport GmbH, is a subsidiary of
BMW AG that manufactures high-performance luxury cars. BMW M ("M" for "motorsport")
was initially created to facilitate BMW's racing program, which was very successful
in the 1960s and 1970s. As time passed, BMW M began to supplement BMW's vehicle
portfolio with specially modified higher trim models, for which they are now most
known by the general public. These M-badged cars traditionally include modified engines,
transmissions, suspensions, interior trims, aerodynamics, and exterior modifications
to set them apart from their counterparts. All M models are tested and tuned at BMW's
private facility at the Nürburgring racing circuit in Germany.
Official website: BMW M
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