2008 Mercedes Benz C350 Sport

[NarutoRamen]

Luw and Just_Me: I understand what you guys are talking about. Like I said, I haven't yet driven the 335i and also, there is no configurator for the new C-class on MB's site, so I can't compare those two yet. I compared the C with the 330 because I've driven that. I'll say this, if there is a 8-10k gap between a similarly equipped C350 and 335i, then I agree the 335 is probably the better choice.

damn your review was better then mine

No mine wasn't man. It's not about having a better review. I tried my best to get upto the level of Mr. Wimmer. I wrote a long review because I was very very excited about that event...LOL I might've went overboard if you ask me.

 

[Zafiro]

if there is a 8-10k gap between a similarly equipped C350 and 335i, then I agree the 335 is probably the better choice.

I would pick the 335i even if the price was the same, the engine is a masterpiece and top of that the engine is easy to modify. As long as C350 has 268bhp, a 335i with M-package for me please.

 

[cawimmer430]

Excellent review and very nice pictures. I am glad you liked the new C-Class. I've been seeing a lot of them lately and they turn my head everytime. Interestingly enough, the vast majority of W204s I see are Avantgarde / SPORT models!

I just hope the C350 and the other major engines get a power-boost soon - they need it because it looks good on paper when shoppers compare the C350 against other cars in its class which are already sporting over 300-horsepower.

Karma given.

 

[Merc1]

Well they go on sale here today! Weather permitting I'm going to check them out.

Great review, it seems the car is a few tweaks aways from greatness.

M

 

[Zafiro]

335i deliever 400 nm torque between 1300-5500rpm and redline starts at 7000 rpm.
What is the powerband for C350?

 

[Benzboi_inoz]

cawimmer430 said:

Interestingly enough, the vast majority of W204s I see are Avantgarde / SPORT models!

Yes, I have still to see one close up in the inside as well as already having seen the outside, but whilst I have yet to see one on the road, all the ones in dealers windows I've seen so far, have been the avantgarde model.

I do like.

A lot.

It also appears that unlike some car brands which attempt to dazzle with power/horsepower numbers and advertising spiel/spin, - as if that was the only thing that mattered in evaluating a car (which is probably the case as concerns brand fanboys, certainly a good number of free riding motor journalists, and those more interested in 'test drives' and joyrides than actually having to own and pay for a new vehicle,) - that Mercedes are prepared to actually state some facts as regards some of the engineering details for comparison purposes as regards quality and safety.

I see for instance that 70% of the new C Class is built using the latest high tensile strength alloy steels; 20% is ultra-high strength alloy steel, and the remaining 10% is aluminium and plastic. And that the body panels are all hot zinc dipped/galvanised.

Unfortunately, for comparison purposes re facts as pertaining to quality and body strength, and thus safety and lonegevity, it is difficult, as other manufacturers seem to be rather shy when it comes to publishing such facts, other than the usual and considerably more pedestrian ones as regards power and speed figures, with which the aforesaid fanboys, freebie test drivers and free-loading car journalists seem anally retentively obsessed about.

I read on a car safety forum the other day, that a side impact into a pole, at circa 29kmh, without an side airbag will most definitely kill you, and even in the most competent vehicle as regards airbags etc, 80kph into an solid object will end your life, as the human body will not withstand the deceleration forces brought about by the impact - seatbelts, airbag or no airbag.

Kind of makes a nonsense of 'how fast does she go mate' stuff that motoring journalists and fanboys alike, seemingly obsess over, IMHO of course.

IMHO, with Mercedes, as with Rolls Royce in their Heyday, when asked how much power the Rolls put out, the answer was 'sufficient'.

I do like the look of the new C Class.

Very, very nice indeed.

Best Regards

John...

 

[NTT]

Yes, I have still to see one closeIMHO, with Mercedes, as with Rolls Royce in their Heyday, when asked how much power the Rolls put out, the answer was 'sufficient'.

I do like the look of the new C Class.

Very, very nice indeed.

Best Regards

John...

Bravo, Bravo, Bravo,

I doubt very much if anyone with, be it a C Class, Bmw 3er or A4 will be constantly driving on the limit, That's when the car which offers the best of both worlds i.e comfort and performance, makes a better personal buy.

 

[Zafiro]

I wouldnt pick the C-class in elegance trim, Im a sporty guy so its Avantgarde for me

If you choose C-class or 3-series it comes down to personal preferences. What one you think is the best , some other wont agree. Both are good cars and despite your choice you will be satisfied, you cant go wrong with either 3er or C-class.

 

[NarutoRamen]

I would pick the 335i even if the price was the same, the engine is a masterpiece and top of that the engine is easy to modify. As long as C350 has 268bhp, a 335i with M-package for me please.

It all depends on taste. Personally for cars such as these I don't much care for their power. I'm never gonna race someone in a C-class or a 3er anyways. That's what M3 and C63 are for. As for me personally, I would take the C-class because of the refinement it offers over the 3er and most importantly it's comfort and looks.

 

[Zafiro]

It all depends on taste. Personally for cars such as these I don't much care for their power. I'm never gonna race someone in a C-class or a 3er anyways. That's what M3 and C63 are for. As for me personally, I would take the C-class because of the refinement it offers over the 3er and most importantly it's comfort and looks.

Im not guy that usually race others so it doesnt matter if I own a 335i or a M3, I want the power becuase I like to feel it, its nice to own a powerful car that I can use on the freeway or to pass other slower cars or trucks on a countryroad. I dont buy a powerful car to race others, I buy one becuase I like it and becuase I can.
I happen to like the looks of E90 and I find BMW comfortable and they drive well and they are reliable enough. You pick the C-class thats fine but dont expect me to do the same There is a reason why Audi/bmw/MB sell cars, becuase they are all damn good cars and there is one for everyones taste.

http://www.germancarforum.com/membe...08-mercedes-benz-c350-sport-2.html#post216178

 

[Remy Zero]

Great write-up Ramen.

question : judging from the pics, the new C class seems slightly bigger than it's predesesor. is that true?

 

[bmwownage]

Would still take the E90, even though this may look more agressive with the AMG bodykit. Don't know about C's handling but E90's is surely great, even with the 330i it was superb with power, so i can only imagine the 335i is even better. And E90's shape is favourable to me.. hope they'll do a decent exterior facelift to the E90 to keep it fresh.
And another thing is, from friends, Cclass is a MB for those who cannot afford to buy or operate an Eclass or above, thus this is the cheapest MB sedan, while further down you have Aclass. Well, at least in the two places I have been in. While those owners of 3series might intentionally get 3series because they like it over the 5. Example is us 6 years back, picking the E46 over E39 with minimal price difference.
Of course at this moment, Eclass is a bit dated and this is the next sedan down from the S that has latest MB designs.

 

[NTT]

Cclass is a MB for those who cannot afford to buy or operate an Eclass or above, thus this is the cheapest MB sedan, while further down you have Aclass. Well, at least in the two places I have been in. While those owners of 3series might intentionally get 3series because they like it over the 5. Example is us 6 years back, picking the E46 over E39 with minimal price difference.
Of course at this moment, Eclass is a bit dated and this is the next sedan down from the S that has latest MB designs.

I disagree with your comment. I believe the 'C' is MAINLY bought for it's compactness over the 'E'.

Also, the majority of Mercedes buyers do not see affordability as an issue.

It used to be said that those who could not afford a Mercedes, but wanted a piece German engineering opted for a BMW, of course that is no longer true, but was before.

 

[cawimmer430]

And another thing is, from friends, Cclass is a MB for those who cannot afford to buy or operate an Eclass or above....

Not at all.

If we use your logic, then the same thing can be said about the BMW 3er. There are genuinely people out there that like the C-Class or don't need an E-Class for whatever reasons. Where I live, the C-Class is very popular because you can always find a parking space for it (it get's harder with the E-Class and above) and because it has matured into a superb sedan with many qualities that appeal to people.

 

[NarutoRamen]

Great write-up Ramen.

question : judging from the pics, the new C class seems slightly bigger than it's predesesor. is that true?

Thanks! I would say, yes it is larger. By how much? I cannot say exactly, but the rear seats did fit me better after I changed the front seat to be in the position where I would feel comfortable driving. My legs fit better in this than the previous C.

And another thing is, from friends, Cclass is a MB for those who cannot afford to buy or operate an Eclass or above, thus this is the cheapest MB sedan, while further down you have Aclass.

No not really. I don't know how it is over there. But where I'm at most of the people I see driving C-class, including my friends, are mostly younger people. My friends wanted to buy the C and nothing else. They didn't want a 3 and they didn't want an E. To them E was either too big or it was geared towards an older crowd.

 

[Remy Zero]

Thanx Ramen. basically, i more or less have the idea. i never liked the previous C. small is one thing, but also, i think it favour more towards the feminine side.

i think young professional women would look really good in the previous C. this current one, it looks more agrresive, the front end especially.

i hope to see one soon on the local roads here.

 

[NarutoRamen]

Thanx Ramen. basically, i more or less have the idea. i never liked the previous C. small is one thing, but also, i think it favour more towards the feminine side.

i think young professional women would look really good in the previous C. this current one, it looks more agrresive, the front end especially.

i hope to see one soon on the local roads here.

yeah, i know what you mean. Most of the people I see driving this car in my city are young chicks. They love themselves some C230 Kompressors...LOL

on a side note...most of the people I've seen driving the 3er coupe here are chicks also...WT-F? LOL

 

[cawimmer430]

question : judging from the pics, the new C class seems slightly bigger than it's predesesor. is that true?

It's a bit bigger at the rear, but not by much. If you're a bigger person in terms of height, things are a bit cramped. If you're of average height, it shouldn't be a problem provided the occupants upfront aren't tall!

 

[Benzboi_inoz]

Narutoramen said:

on a side note...most of the people I've seen driving the 3er coupe here are chicks also...WT-F? LOL

Heheheh

Just to show that not all who drive behind the spinning propellor badge are devout automotive hard driving, professional sports types, I witness every day little old blue rinsed hair, ladies, hunched up behind the wheel of their four cylinder 'putt-putt' BMW 3 series, either seemingly sitting on a cushion, or perhaps just so hunched up and close to the wheel, for fear perhaps of losing control of their 'high performance sports machine' that they could chew the top of the steering wheel with their teeth.

A car dealer laughingly told me the other day, that amongst themselves, they refer to the grey interior in BMW 3 series and C Class Mercedes, as 'Granny Grey'. LOL.

Lots of chicks drive them here, its just that they are more, erm mature so to speak...probably 'cos of what they cost over here.... you need to be pretty well heeled to afford even a 3 series or C Class in this market.

Certainly there are as many 'badge buyers' these days of the likes of Bimmers, as there are Mercs; at least in this market.

Great review BTW

Best Regards

John...

 

[Zafiro]

I see chicks driving around in Audi TT and Porsche Boxster.