Wohoo SLS takes on the Lexus LF-A
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They are both unbearably ugly, the Benz benefit from the aura of it's ancestry. People will need time to come to reason and see it as the stinker it is. First time that I have to admit that Audi and the R8 brought th3 s3xy back... Impressive for a brand that made nearly tranparent cars for decades...
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May the best car win.
Have you seen the pics of the interior? It's already way better than anything in it's league.
Have you seen the pics of the interior? It's already way better than anything in it's league.
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It's a bit foolish to judge a cars interior based on press photos. Nothing beats seeing it in real life and then coming to a conclusion. 
To me the LF-A interior looks no different from some of its competitors in terms of visual quality (from the photos). Lexus interiors are so overrated in my opinion. I have to laugh everytime I hear those people on Club Lexus talk about "world class interiors" when it comes to Lexus cars. They are really no different from their rivals because all cars in these classes have good interiors.
"My ES350 has a better interior than a Bentley."
<--- No BS. Some clown there said this. 
To me the LF-A interior looks no different from some of its competitors in terms of visual quality (from the photos). Lexus interiors are so overrated in my opinion. I have to laugh everytime I hear those people on Club Lexus talk about "world class interiors" when it comes to Lexus cars. They are really no different from their rivals because all cars in these classes have good interiors.
"My ES350 has a better interior than a Bentley."
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I'm pretty sure, you've mistaken in understanding me & got me all wrong!
Special is Lf-A's 500 figure & the phenomenal motor under it's hood, unlike the Sl-S's 6.2l/V8 like other Amg Mercs!
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I'm pretty sure, you've mistaken in understanding me & got me all wrong!
Special is Lf-A's 500 figure & the phenomenal motor under it's hood, unlike the Sl-S's 6.2l/V8 like other Amg Mercs!
Seems you're confusing the difference between a special engine and special car. No Toyota or especially Lexus product will ever be a special as a Mercedes, especially a Mercedes such as this that harks back to an even more special/historic model. The specific engine in the SLS is different from the many other applications. It even has a different internal designation. Same displacement/design, but the details are different. It isn't just an E63 engine plunked down in a sports car.
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So the chassis dynamics, technology, specific aerodynamic design elements, and a host of other engineering applications have nothing to do with making this car special.. it's all about the engine?
May I ask why you feel this is the case...and especially why you state it as a matter of fact? Is it simply the 'heritage' factor, or because the Benz is German?.... why won't a Toyota/Lexus ever measure up or surpass a comparative Mercedes car in terms of being 'special' ?
Any reason why these two cars can't be compared to each other simply as automobiles, rather than having to factor in their respective brands?
In my opinion, the LF-A is more special than the SLS, regardless of the fact that the Benz is a modern-day interpretation of a past legend. What makes this Lexus extra special is the fact that it's the company's first all-out "supercar"...and the end result seems nothing short of spectacular.
I don't take offence to your bias against Toyota/Lexus, but what did bother me was the way in which you 'corrected' ateekt's opinions. That was his opinion, ...if you disagree with it, then simply respect it and leave it alone. No need to over-ride his opinion and label it as 'ridiculous'...and then going on to try and clarify what his opinion should be.
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'Special' is very subjective and means different things to different people. For some, SLS is probably special just cause it is a Mercedes or modern interpretation of a past classic. Both mean very little to me. If the Lexus runs circles around it (and I don't know if it does or not), then it is more 'special' in my book. Of course the price difference makes the comparison sort of unfair and academic. For the price, LF-A has to be in the 599GTB category and if it does, kudos to Lexus, they indeed have made something very 'special'. Same applies to SLS, it is how it stacks against it's competitors that is going to make it 'special' or not in my book.
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Seems to me you're asking the wrong person. Look at the original poster's post. He stated that the engine was what made it special.
Because a Lexus has no heritage nothing more than a marketing brief, especially for a 400K sports car. Of course the cars can be (and will be) compared regardless of their brands, but the word "special" was used here. Makes a difference to me at least. Sure its a fabulous car, with a killer engine and even mean/purposeful styling, but for me it (and no Lexus) will ever be as "special" as a Mercedes-Benz. Lexus has proven they can do everything, quality, safety, luxury, etc as good or nearly as good as anyone, but there is nothing special about a committee made, competitor driven "luxury" brand. Lexus is a lot of thing, anything but special. Not as special. Special car for Lexus sure.
I wouldn't expect anything less. You're a Benz hater, plain and simple so I would expect no less. Why everyone here is acting like Toyota has no experience with sports cars is beyond me. They have some experience with this sort of car and they do race so they have the know how. Unless you really think "Lexus" is some type of separate company.
Anyway, all I did was point out what he trying to state in the first place. It appears to me that he thought the engine is what made the car special, again re-read his post. Not the things you listed. I just pointed out the difference, if there is one in his mind. I didn't tell him what his opinion should be. He can now say the whole car (LFA) is more special and that would be his right.
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It's a bit foolish to judge a cars interior based on press photos. Nothing beats seeing it in real life and then coming to a conclusion.
I based my views on the IRL videos of the car we've seen. I don't trust Press shots...but the intrior IRL videos really impressed me.
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Everyone has a right to like or dislike anything they come across! There is no point for others to object on one's opinion! Respect is the best we can give!
Imo, debating on someone's personal opinion, that won't change one's mind & might get things worse, is pointless! So please, debates over & peace!
Imo, debating on someone's personal opinion, that won't change one's mind & might get things worse, is pointless! So please, debates over & peace!
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Shameel?! You have to be kidding me...
Marcus, you know him for many years and you damn well know you cannot label him like that...
I don't care how this^ sounded, but Marcus, my friend, with all due respect, i think you're exaggerating...
Back to the subject anyways, shall we?
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Shameel?! You have to be kidding me...
Marcus, you know him for many years and you damn well know you cannot label him like that...
I don't care how this^ sounded, but Marcus, my friend, with all due respect, i think you're exaggerating...
Back to the subject anyways, shall we?
You've got to be the one kidding. Most of their posts enable me to say that. Plain and simple. Not the worst one around, but I really don't expect MB to do anything right by them.
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There's a clear difference between my viewpoint that BMW as a whole develop better vehicles than MB...and your opinion that MB can't do a thing right by me. There actually are occassions where I feel a MB vehicle is on par or even better than its BMW counterpart.... I don't ever have the stance that a MB car will never be as special as a BMW regardless of how impressive the car is (sound familiar?).
If we use your little explanation up there as a yardstick for defining a 'hater', then we're gonna have to work extra hard to come up with a word to collectively label all those members on here who proudly talk down anything Toyota/Lexus/Japanese/Asian/American.
And Tycoon, thank you for the kind words.
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