C-Class (W205) W205 C-Class Facelift Spyshots

[Merc1]

Yeah can we please get out of there with this and move the posts please.

M

 

[Kukobana]

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[Merc1]

C53 Cabriolet with 400hp I6 please. 2018 is going to be one of the best ever years at Mercedes for product updates/introductions.

M

 

[PHYBENZ]

UG. Don't know what to do! My 2018 C43 just arrived at the dealer today for me to pick up. Fully loaded with design interior etc. I am leasing... If the facelift came out in January then I would wait, but my feeling is it won't be till summer... Annoyed I won't get the facelift. Interior is such an upgrade!

 

[JLBM]

I can't comment on the exterior at this point, but that interior revision is absolutely fantastic. Really excellent job! The new infomatics is brilliantly layed out. The aspect ratio of the screen is much better and the high def LCD screen is superb. It feels bang up to date.

 

[Centurion]

UG. Don't know what to do! My 2018 C43 just arrived at the dealer today for me to pick up. Fully loaded with design interior etc. I am leasing... If the facelift came out in January then I would wait, but my feeling is it won't be till summer... Annoyed I won't get the facelift. Interior is such an upgrade!

What a pickle! Summer 2018 is quite some time away. If you can wait then do, if not, then you'l still have an awesome time with your new car.

 

[HUTSUTAo]

C53 Cabriolet with 400hp I6 please. 2018 is going to be one of the best ever years at Mercedes for product updates/introductions.

M

I am guessing the w205 fl might get the whole lineup of new generation Mercedes' 4 cylinder engines(M264 and OM654) . Looking forward to see the output figures of the petrol engine other than the C350 which will be getting 300+16hp

 

[DapperStyle]

UG. Don't know what to do! My 2018 C43 just arrived at the dealer today for me to pick up. Fully loaded with design interior etc. I am leasing... If the facelift came out in January then I would wait, but my feeling is it won't be till summer... Annoyed I won't get the facelift. Interior is such an upgrade!

Lease the 2018 C43 and that’ll put you right up along the 2020/2021 C34/53 with e-turbo inline 6. The one with all the kinks worked out.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I hope the FL isn't just superficial and Mercedes refines the ride and handling compromise on the w205. Many local reviews have taken issue with the ride characteristic of the W205 and it's not the class leader the W204 was in this department. I certainly don't think the ride on mum's W205 is anything special and she even has air suspension.

 

[Monster]

I hope the FL isn't just superficial and Mercedes refines the ride and handling compromise on the w205. Many local reviews have taken issue with the ride characteristic of the W205 and it's not the class leader the W204 was in this department. I certainly don't think the ride on mum's W205 is anything special and she even has air suspension.

I blame it on the run flat tires. The thing I noticed is that even though the handling felt sharp and responsive in daily driving situation, once you start pushing things close to the limit, you start to notice the softness and delay response in suspension to maintain the body control.

 

[Emex]

I blame it on the run flat tires. The thing I noticed is that even though the handling felt sharp and responsive in daily driving situation, once you start pushing things close to the limit, you start to notice the softness and delay response in suspension to maintain the body control.

Same, it seems to magnify bumps in the road too, its the harder sidewall on RF's.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I blame it on the run flat tires. The thing I noticed is that even though the handling felt sharp and responsive in daily driving situation, once you start pushing things close to the limit, you start to notice the softness and delay response in suspension to maintain the body control.

I don't know if you read this months Wheels review where the C-class came in last place, which is a drastic turnaround from the W204. They said it looked frumpy, which they are obviously talking nonsense as it's one of the best lookers in the class, but it was held back by suspension tune and the 250 engine, which they did concede has now been replaced.

BMW IMO has more experience and thus does a better job with the runflats. Supposedly though Mercedes runflats are slightly different to those on the BMW's.

I agree with Emex's observation, the suspension never seems to settle and fidgets over road imperfections. It also slams hard into larger ridges and holes. It's lacks the beautifully resolved ride of the W204.

My friend with a AMG equipped C250 without air suspension has complained about the same thing and he's quite disappointed with the ride.

 

[Monster]

I don't know if you read this months Wheels review where the C-class came in last place, which is a drastic turnaround from the W204. They said it looked frumpy, which they are obviously talking nonsense as it's one of the best lookers in the class, but it was held back by suspension tune and the 250 engine, which they did concede has now been replaced.

BMW IMO has more experience and thus does a better job with the runflats. Supposedly though Mercedes runflats are slightly different to those on the BMW's.

I agree with Emex's observation, the suspension never seems to settle and fidgets over road imperfections. It also slams hard into larger ridges and holes. It's lacks the beautifully resolved ride of the W204.

My friend with a AMG equipped C250 without air suspension has complained about the same thing and he's quite disappointed with the ride.

Interesting, might have to get this month's copy of Wheels, and yes after 1.5 years with the car, I think the 250 engine tune is starting to feel a bit slow, it still goes pretty quick when the engine is on boost but that performance window is limited.

The lack of suspension compliance has actually forced me to drive a bit slower over the poor road surfaces in Sydney.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

It's amazing how the performance goal posts have moved on so quickly. 6.7 seconds was nothing to sneeze at a few years ago.

Have a look at Lexus's engine range and they are well behind the Germans when it comes to performance and consumption.

 

[Emex]

I don't know if you read this months Wheels review where the C-class came in last place, which is a drastic turnaround from the W204. They said it looked frumpy, which they are obviously talking nonsense as it's one of the best lookers in the class, but it was held back by suspension tune and the 250 engine, which they did concede has now been replaced.

BMW IMO has more experience and thus does a better job with the runflats. Supposedly though Mercedes runflats are slightly different to those on the BMW's.

I agree with Emex's observation, the suspension never seems to settle and fidgets over road imperfections. It also slams hard into larger ridges and holes. It's lacks the beautifully resolved ride of the W204.

My friend with a AMG equipped C250 without air suspension has complained about the same thing and he's quite disappointed with the ride.

Remember though, BMW got lambasted when they started using RFT's. Be interesting to see wether theres much difference between Conti RFT & Pirelli PZero RFT (Currently running PZero on mine)

 

[Monster]

It's amazing how the performance goal posts have moved on so quickly. 6.7 seconds was nothing to sneeze at a few years ago.

Have a look at Lexus's engine range and they are well behind the Germans when it comes to performance and consumption.

Just had a quick flick through the article, what amazes me even more is how fickle the opinions of journalists are when it comes to their reviews, not so long ago they were raving about ever aspect of the W205, now their criticism range from the unsettled ride to the "brash" interior trims. All things considered the W205 is a fine car, it just needs a few minor adjustments and I hope MB can sort out all the squeaks and rattles as well.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Just had a quick flick through the article, what amazes me even more is how fickle the opinions of journalists are when it comes to their reviews, not so long ago they were raving about ever aspect of the W205, now their criticism range from the unsettled ride to the "brash" interior trims. All things considered the W205 is a fine car, it just needs a few minor adjustments and I hope MB can sort out all the squeaks and rattles as well.

The reviewer was clearly a little biased against the C in terms of looks and interior. He also suggested the 250 donk sounded more like a diesel, which it clearly doesn't.

 

[Wolfgang]

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[Monster]

The reviewer was clearly a little biased against the C in terms of looks and interior. He also suggested the 250 donk sounded more like a diesel, which it clearly doesn't.

The engine sounds a little diesel like at cold start but after it warms up it is actually very quiet.

 

[Eng.ahad]

I have good experience with my friends C250 W205.

What I think is that the car looks upper class compare to other competitors from inside out when you check the right specs boxes. Overall, the car driving experience is very good, although the comfort with his 19'' wheels and no air suspension is the biggest con, in addition to that on high speeds you can hear the wind noise, however I don't hear much squeaking or rattling inside the car.

If MB improved the ride quality it will be the best in class.