US (and Canadian) September 2009 sales


Very good recovery by BMW, Merc need new models very quikly, the new E class alone wont save them.
 
Press releases:

BMW (+2.1%)


Interesting to see the ML selling double the X-5, The GLK sell more than 50% of the X-3, and the GL Sell 1100 more units compared to the X-6.
R class also selling more than the X-6.

Looks like Merc 4x4s are doing verry well compared to the rest of the market.
 
I find this amazing. MB offers more models then BMW and yet their sales are down. Hmm...Maybe if the GLK wasn't so over priced it will be bringing in some sales as well.


You forget how BMW rely on the 3 series for sales..its astronomical, thats how they can outsell Merc..The GLK is not doing 2 badly, but will definitely pick up once stocks normalise and more options are available.

Merc 4x4s outsold Bmws 4x4s, S class outsold 7series by almost 400 units, E class outsold 5 series, if it was not for the 3, Bmw would be struggling.

:usa7uh:
 
Yea, I just read that.

Looks like Mercedes-Benz is still ahead in sales though.

16,985 to BMW's 15,047, So I am pleased to hear that. :cool:

Mercedes-Benz still needs something to get sales started. Maybe a car lower then the C-class (we don't get the A or B over here).

Honestly, IMO the C-class should have been outsold the 3 series on looks alone, but maybe those "possible sales" went to Infiniti/Lexus or Acura. Maybe even a 4 cylinder C-class with a 3k lower sticker price may help out as well.
 
5-Series is holding pretty well in its last full year and its numbers actually increased 18 % compared to September '08. 3-Series sales remain almost unchanged. 1-Series sales more than doubled compared to September last year. 6-Series outsold both CLS and SL. The new X3 can't come soon enough but at least there's the X1. The upcoming facelift should boost the X5's sales numbers.
 
Interesting to see the ML selling double the X-5, The GLK sell more than 50% of the X-3, and the GL Sell 1100 more units compared to the X-6.
R class also selling more than the X-6.


Regarding X5 & X6 sales: production in SC is limited - and BMW rather feeds demand outside US (Europe) - since they can profit more due to stronger EUR compared to USD ... not to mention already higher prices in Europe.
US demand for X5 & X6 is much beter than sales numbers indicates.

X3 is another story ... the demand is poor.
 
You forget how BMW rely on the 3 series for sales..its astronomical, thats how they can outsell Merc...:usa7uh:

Come on that's an unfair comment. It's like saying Merc really rely on their SUV's for sales and that's why they're doing so well. Have you ever thought that like the C class, the 3 series despite it's age is a damn good car and that's why it sells so well.:t-hands:
 
the 3 series despite it's age is a damn good car and that's why it sells so well.:t-hands:

:t-hands: But so is the C-class and G37. Honestly I have driven the current 3 series and I really can understand why it sells so good. Not to say it's a bad car, but I don't feel that it's "out of this world" like everyone acts like it is.

In the end people will buy what they want and I have no way of controlling it. I just can't understand why.

Then again the Mazda 3 is way more exciting then the Corolla, but Corolla still pulls in more sales. I think it comes down to the cars reputation and that is what works well for the 3 series.
 
I have driven the current 3 series and I really can understand why it sells so good. Not to say it's a bad car, but I don't feel that it's "out of this world" like everyone acts like it is.

1. Maybe you do not get it? Not your type of car? Naa... that was not meant as a question, I know this... :D

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1. Maybe you do not get it? Not your type of car? Naa... that was not meant as a question, I know this... :D

:t-drive:

Yes, I am being bias and I do dislike the 3 series.

On the other hand, I am just questioning buyer motives. Are they buying the 3 series based on it driving good or is it because of their reputation? Honestly it something a 3 series buyer would have the answer to. I personally suspect it's because of the reputation.

And it's not just the 3 series, same could be said about my beloved S-class. I understand that. It just personally bothers me that people would pick the 3 series over the G37 and C-class. It just drives me crazy.:all_cohol !
 
Those E Class numbers are a little decieving because it looks like they include the coupe....
 
Regarding X5 & X6 sales: production in SC is limited - and BMW rather feeds demand outside US (Europe) - since they can profit more due to stronger EUR compared to USD ... not to mention already higher prices in Europe.
US demand for X5 & X6 is much beter than sales numbers indicates.

X3 is another story ... the demand is poor.


Do you actually believe what you wrote here? The X6 simply isn't selling. The X5's production isn't limited either. If they could sell more they'd build and ship more. If the demand for the X6 and especially X5 were "higher", BMW would build and ship more of them. Why build a factory here in the U.S. for SUVs to focus on the European market? Doesn't make sense.

Why on earth would BMW limit sales of the X6 and X5 in the U.S. for profit reasons when both of them are built here for that very purpose, to shield them from currency issue vs building them in Europe?

Yet another spin/nonsense episode in a feeble attempt to hide the truth. The X6 simply doesn't sell and the X5's sales have cooled off. What is the harm in telling the truth?


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Brand Volume % 9/09 9/08 DSR* % DSR 9/09 DSR 9/08

Hyundai 27.24 31,511 24,765 22.15 1,260 1,032
Kia 24.39 21,623 17,383 19.42 865 724
Volvo 16.33 4,716 4,054 11.68 189 169
Lexus 11.80 17,939 16,045 7.33 718 669
Mini 9.73 4,128 3,762 5.34 165 157
Porsche 8.44 1,581 1,458 4.10 63 61
BMW 2.06 15,047 14,744 -2.03 602 614
Volkswagen 1.46 17,358 17,109 -2.60 694 713
Subaru 0.70 14,593 14,491 -3.32 584 604
Ford -4.06 98,516 102,685 -7.90 3,941 4,279
Nissan -5.80 48,783 51,786 -9.57 1,951 2,158
Cadillac -8.79 11,339 12,432 -12.44 454 518
Mercedes-Benz -9.55 16,985 18,779 -13.17 679 782
Mazda -11.97 14,234 16,169 -15.49 569 674
Infiniti -15.03 6,610 7,779 -18.43 264 324
Toyota -15.71 108,076 128,215 -19.08 4,323 5,342
Mercury -15.98 5,443 6,478 -19.34 218 270
Honda -19.23 69,970 86,629 -22.46 2,799 3,610
Jeep -19.34 17,287 21,431 -22.56 691 893
Lincoln -21.01 5,980 7,571 -24.17 239 315
Acura -27.39 7,259 9,997 -30.29 290 417
Buick -33.04 9,455 14,121 -35.72 378 588
Mitsubishi -36.13 4,712 7,378 -38.69 188 307
Chevrolet -40.66 102,538 172,803 -43.04 4,102 7,200
Dodge -42.68 35,864 62,572 -44.98 1,435 2,607
Pontiac -52.50 11,079 23,324 -54.40 443 972
GMC -52.96 18,359 39,029 -54.84 734 1,626
Smart -54.22 814 1,778 -56.05 33 74
Suzuki -54.42 1,861 4,083 -56.24 74 170
Chrysler -61.25 9,046 23,346 -62.80 362 973
Saab -72.58 484 1,765 -73.67 19 74
Hummer -81.46 426 2,298 -82.20 17 96
Saturn -83.85 2,993 18,528 -84.49 120 772

COMPANIES
BMW Group 3.62 19,175 18,506 -0.53 767 771
Ford Motor Company -5.08 114,655 120,788 -8.87 4,586 5,033
Nissan North America -7.00 55,393 59,565 -10.72 2,216 2,482
Toyota Mo Co -12.65 126,015 144,260 -16.14 5,041 6,011
Honda America -20.07 77,229 96,626 -23.27 3,089 4,026
Chrysler Group LLC -42.06 62,197 107,349 -44.38 2,488 4,473
General Motors -44.89 156,673 284,300 -47.10 6,267 11,846
 
Interesting to see the ML selling double the X-5, The GLK sell more than 50% of the X-3, and the GL Sell 1100 more units compared to the X-6.
R class also selling more than the X-6.

Looks like Merc 4x4s are doing verry well compared to the rest of the market.

YTD, X5 outsold ML. And X6 outsold R class -not sure why the two are being compared, but whatever. Oh and it also outsold CLS.
 
:t-hands: But so is the C-class and G37. Honestly I have driven the current 3 series and I really can understand why it sells so good. Not to say it's a bad car, but I don't feel that it's "out of this world" like everyone acts like it is.

As a complete package the 3-series is hard to beat, thats why it selling so well. Its a combination of design, attractive engines, the compromise between sport and comfort. And of course reputation, just like with the S-class. My father own a E90 because he owned a 3-series before and was satisfied with the ownership.
 
:t-hands: But so is the C-class and G37. Honestly I have driven the current 3 series and I really can understand why it sells so good. Not to say it's a bad car, but I don't feel that it's "out of this world" like everyone acts like it is.

And I agree with you cos that's what I said, that just like the C class it's a damn good car. Here in South Africa the 3 series used to outsell the C class by quite a bit, but now the tables have turned. I was simply stating that it's unfair to say that BMW rely heavily on 3 series sales. By looking at the numbers all their models are very competitive and that's why BMW do so well.:usa7uh:
 

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