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2.068 CV NA ARRANCADA! Porsche Taycan Turbo GT x Tesla Model S Plaid em uma disputa INSANA NA PISTA
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.0-100 km/h60-120 km/h0-400m0-400m (speed trap)0-1000m0-1000m (speed trap)
Porsche Taycan Turbo GT2,54s2,24s9,48s240,75 km/h17,44s302,00 km/h
Tesla Model S Plaid2,35s2,22s9,63s234,51 km/h18,11s265,37 km/h
 
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Wow this surprised me. I honestly thought the SF90 would have the measure of the ZR1, but that car is so damn fast. The ZR1X is going to decimate the Hypercar establishment with its 8.7sec (159 mph) time.
 
The Lamborghini Temerario Is the Quickest Gas Car We’ve Ever Tested!
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MotorTrend Test Results
0-60 MPH2.2 sec
0-100 MPH4.6 sec
QUARTER MILE9.6 sec @ 148.5 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH96 ft
BRAKING, 100-0 MPH266 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION1.14 g
FIGURE-EIGHT LAP22.3 sec @ 1.05 g (avg)
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If you look at the 60-100 split and the 1/4 trap, all the modern super cars are more or less the same. 765, Revuelto, Tem, 296 (and Speciale), ZR1 with the wing on are all so identical in performance that buying should be purely based on other factors. Brand preference, feel, aesthetics, sound, etc.
 
If you look at the 60-100 split and the 1/4 trap, all the modern super cars are more or less the same. 765, Revuelto, Tem, 296 (and Speciale), ZR1 with the wing on are all so identical in performance that buying should be purely based on other factors. Brand preference, feel, aesthetics, sound, etc.
Its quite amazing how many super cars nowadays are producing these times with a 1/4 mile of 9.6sec or less. They are even faster now than the holy trinity (918/La Ferrari/P1) and approaching the Chiron in performance. The ZR1X is going to be a next level up and I am looking forward to seeing how fast the next AMG GT 4dr EV will be with its 1360PS.
 
Thank you for the comparison.

I don't mean to be that guy, but isn't the Pirelli P Zero R just a regular "road tyre" as its just the replacement for the old Pirelli P Zero?
As far as I know it's like the P Zero Corsa was, a pseudo semi-slick, fitted for everyday use.
 
Thank you for the comparison.

I don't mean to be that guy, but isn't the Pirelli P Zero R just a regular "road tyre" as its just the replacement for the old Pirelli P Zero?

I dug deeper into this topic and it seems that the P Zero R is indeed a road tyre with semi-slick characteristics (very heat-depending tyre).
In the article the author states that it lacks grip at cold conditions, just like a semi-slick tyre would.

So here's the edited datapanel accordingly :)

AutoBild Sportscars - Porsche 911 Turbo S (992.2 vs 992.1).webp
 
I dug deeper into this topic and it seems that the P Zero R is indeed a road tyre with semi-slick characteristics (very heat-depending tyre).
In the article the author states that it lacks grip at cold conditions, just like a semi-slick tyre would.

So here's the edited datapanel accordingly :)

AutoBild Sportscars - Porsche 911 Turbo S (992.2 vs 992.1).webp
Am I correct in saying this that the Turbo S Hybrid if tested at optimum temperatures of 20degC and above could have been quicker in acceleration and on the track due to the tyres been operating at warmer temperature than 5 degC on the day of the test.
 
I dug deeper into this topic and it seems that the P Zero R is indeed a road tyre with semi-slick characteristics (very heat-depending tyre).
In the article the author states that it lacks grip at cold conditions, just like a semi-slick tyre would.

So here's the edited datapanel accordingly :)

AutoBild Sportscars - Porsche 911 Turbo S (992.2 vs 992.1).webp
Do you think the laptime gap could grow if the 992.2 Turbo S was done in hotter conditions?
 
Do you think the laptime gap could grow if the 992.2 Turbo S was done in hotter conditions?
Definitely, it's also in the article. Plus, the sport-PASM makes it even more track-focused, probably too focused for a Turbo. It's ride is no longer a big strength of the Turbo... :/
 
Definitely, it's also in the article. Plus, the sport-PASM makes it even more track-focused, probably too focused for a Turbo. It's ride is no longer a big strength of the Turbo... :/

Hmmmmm. So I found the ride quality of the 992.1 turbo S to be poor. Way too bouncy. From the video reviews I watched they all mentioned the ride was more compliant with the 992.2.
 
Definitely, it's also in the article. Plus, the sport-PASM makes it even more track-focused, probably too focused for a Turbo. It's ride is no longer a big strength of the Turbo... :/
Yeah, im waiting for AutoBild to release their articles about cars they supertest as i dont have the magazine.
 
Hmmmmm. So I found the ride quality of the 992.1 turbo S to be poor. Way too bouncy. From the video reviews I watched they all mentioned the ride was more compliant with the 992.2.
I assume the 992.2's Porsche provided them didnt have PASM since they would have tested on the road.
 
The best things are the editors words.

There! Another one! This time: Michael Schiebe, Chairman of the Board of Management of Mercedes-AMG. In an interview shortly before our editorial deadline, he uttered the phrase currently so popular among automotive executives: "We listened to our customers." Good heavens, what a crazy idea, one thinks as a journalist. And what request did customers make to Mercedes-AMG? That they might actually like more than four cylinders under the expensive hood. Lo and behold: The turbocharged inline six-cylinder replaces the turbocharged four-cylinder M 139, first in the GLC, and then, with the model update next winter, in the C-Class – in both the 43 and 63 variants with plug-in hybrid technology. Schiebe promises, in this context, "more revving capability and a greater spread between the driving modes."

Well, that sounds great. And there's also a wild CLE variant with a V8 engine on the horizon. The four-liter twin-turbo engine is currently celebrating its resurrection in the revised S-Class as the M 177 evo, compliant with EU7 emissions standards thanks to mild hybrid technology and a 180-degree crankshaft – and we're talking about the standard S 580 here; the AMG variant is still to come. Incidentally, the four-cylinder engine, one of the best representatives of its class, remains where it truly fits the vehicle concept: in the A-Class. The A-Class was actually slated for retirement, but even there, customers weren't willing to follow the corporate strategy.

Need other examples? Hyundai is working on successors to the i20 N and i30 N because – quite surprisingly – their customers aren't prepared to pay roughly twice as much for an electric Ioniq 5 N. BMW finally launched a Z4 with a manual transmission after numerous inquiries about why Toyota could offer it in the mechanically identical Supra, but BMW couldn't. Porsche is registering a lack of enthusiasm for the electric 718 successor and now intends to offer a combustion engine version after all.

But what are these blatant missteps based on? Management's self-indulgence? Subservience to politics? Both? Michael Schiebe explains again: "Previous decisions were made under different circumstances, and we also assumed greater acceptance. This has changed significantly in key markets, including the USA." You see, dear readers: you have influence.

But one thing is also clear: we must prevent the Saab syndrome. In other words: if everyone who is loudly lamenting the brand's demise had bought a Saab, the brand would still exist. So: what developments would you like to see? And above all: would you actually buy them?
 
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