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Sport Auto France Supertest - Dallara Stradale IR8 Tribute
Circuit Val de Vienne Lap Time - 1:40,91
Vmax: 238 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: +1,3G / -1.5G
Track Conditions: 15deg C - Dry track
Driver: Christophe Tinseau
Acceleration (km/h):
0-100: 3,8
0-160: 7,9
0-200: 12,8
0-400m: 11,8s @ 193 km/h
0-1000m: 21,6s @ 234 km/h
Braking:
200-0: 122 m
Weight: 1027,5 kg
Weight Distribution: 40/60%
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
Tire Size: 205/40/18 | 265/30/19
Rating: 5/5
Price as tested: 373,320 €
Circuit Val de Vienne Lap Time - 1:40,91
Vmax: 238 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: +1,3G / -1.5G
Track Conditions: 15deg C - Dry track
Driver: Christophe Tinseau
Acceleration (km/h):
0-100: 3,8
0-160: 7,9
0-200: 12,8
0-400m: 11,8s @ 193 km/h
0-1000m: 21,6s @ 234 km/h
Braking:
200-0: 122 m
Weight: 1027,5 kg
Weight Distribution: 40/60%
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
Tire Size: 205/40/18 | 265/30/19
Rating: 5/5
Price as tested: 373,320 €
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Let me add more details from the article. It's translated by Google, so keep in mind there could be errors.
And if it reads too negative, it's because those are the things that usually stand out the most to me.
In order to get a car for the test, Sport Auto France had to agree to only use SP100 fuel (only available in Italy and Switzerland) instead of 98 octane they put in every other car! The magazine wasn't happy, but Dallara was adamant on this.
Engine & Transmission
The transmission is a bit too slow (there is a software update in the works that will improve shift speed).
The engine could be more responsive and offer more pleasant sound.
Above 5,500 rpm the engine runs out of steam a little.
Interior
They had to change padding of the seat for thinner version to fit the test driver.
The brake pedal feel isn't ideal (too much travel).
The vision out of the canopy is most excellent.
There is noticeable amount of tire roll and wind noise in the cabin (probably why there's no radio onboard).
Road handling
Unassisted steering is perfect. Calm in the center, yet sharp in turns.
Tractions is very good and the handling is predictable. The modest amount of camber works well on normal b-roads.
Track test
The car has slight understeering tendency. The rear end is very planted.
According to the author, there is a lot more potential in the car to be unlocked with better suspension setup. The tires were worn on the outside, meaning there wasn't enough negative camber, limiting lateral grip. Apparently it's a concession made by Dallara to have more approachable handling for the average customer.
Dallara team adjusted the ride height and the damping for the track test, which made the car bottom out at high speed and caused damage to the carbon diffuser.
Their time on track was cut short by an engine related mechanical issue, not repairable on site. Luckily the author had already set his best lap time, despite the less than ideal camber setup.
Acceleration
Even with launch control enabled, you have to modulate the throttle in first gear to get the quickest acceleration results.
Here's some of the reasons listed as to why Sport Auto FR fell short of manuf. 0-100 kph claim of 3.3s, with their own result of 3.8s:
- subpar tarmac surface grip of the test location in Mortenfontaine
- Dallara team admits the factory driver was a flyweight
- factory car was stripped of any optional equipment (canopy, AC)
- factory car was equipped with 17"/18" wheels (IR8 Tribute edition has 18"/19")
- factory measured the car with the least amount of fuel necessary
Dyno results
(all results adjusted for drivetrain losses)
The car didn't run SP100 fuel on the dyno.
The maximum torque was suspiciously high: 581 Nm at 3,250 rpm (advertised 500 Nm at 3,000 rpm). Despite a laptop being plugged in the car during the dyno run, Dallara assured them the ECU was running stock maps and was just data logging. They explain the results by saying the conditions were ideal.
Max power was 399.3 PS at 5,500 rpm (advertised 400 PS at 6,200 rpm).
The €373k price includes €60k of "penalty", which I assume is local tax. Base price is €255,000, options: €58k
It's cool to finally know how much a coupe version weights. Here's compiled data:
Motorsport FR acceleration results suspiciously identical to factory claims. Did they even clock it with GPS?
And if it reads too negative, it's because those are the things that usually stand out the most to me.
In order to get a car for the test, Sport Auto France had to agree to only use SP100 fuel (only available in Italy and Switzerland) instead of 98 octane they put in every other car! The magazine wasn't happy, but Dallara was adamant on this.
Engine & Transmission
The transmission is a bit too slow (there is a software update in the works that will improve shift speed).
The engine could be more responsive and offer more pleasant sound.
Above 5,500 rpm the engine runs out of steam a little.
Interior
They had to change padding of the seat for thinner version to fit the test driver.
The brake pedal feel isn't ideal (too much travel).
The vision out of the canopy is most excellent.
There is noticeable amount of tire roll and wind noise in the cabin (probably why there's no radio onboard).
Road handling
Unassisted steering is perfect. Calm in the center, yet sharp in turns.
Tractions is very good and the handling is predictable. The modest amount of camber works well on normal b-roads.
Track test
The car has slight understeering tendency. The rear end is very planted.
According to the author, there is a lot more potential in the car to be unlocked with better suspension setup. The tires were worn on the outside, meaning there wasn't enough negative camber, limiting lateral grip. Apparently it's a concession made by Dallara to have more approachable handling for the average customer.
Dallara team adjusted the ride height and the damping for the track test, which made the car bottom out at high speed and caused damage to the carbon diffuser.
Their time on track was cut short by an engine related mechanical issue, not repairable on site. Luckily the author had already set his best lap time, despite the less than ideal camber setup.
Acceleration
Even with launch control enabled, you have to modulate the throttle in first gear to get the quickest acceleration results.
Here's some of the reasons listed as to why Sport Auto FR fell short of manuf. 0-100 kph claim of 3.3s, with their own result of 3.8s:
- subpar tarmac surface grip of the test location in Mortenfontaine
- Dallara team admits the factory driver was a flyweight
- factory car was stripped of any optional equipment (canopy, AC)
- factory car was equipped with 17"/18" wheels (IR8 Tribute edition has 18"/19")
- factory measured the car with the least amount of fuel necessary
Dyno results
(all results adjusted for drivetrain losses)
The car didn't run SP100 fuel on the dyno.
The maximum torque was suspiciously high: 581 Nm at 3,250 rpm (advertised 500 Nm at 3,000 rpm). Despite a laptop being plugged in the car during the dyno run, Dallara assured them the ECU was running stock maps and was just data logging. They explain the results by saying the conditions were ideal.
Max power was 399.3 PS at 5,500 rpm (advertised 400 PS at 6,200 rpm).
The €373k price includes €60k of "penalty", which I assume is local tax. Base price is €255,000, options: €58k
It's cool to finally know how much a coupe version weights. Here's compiled data:
| publication | configuration | 0-100 | 0-200 | weight w/ 38kg of fuel |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| factory claim | Barchetta | 3.25 | 11.3 | 855 DRY! MT |
| Quattroruote | AT Barchetta +wing | 3.3 | 11.7 | 944 (w/o QR balast) |
| Motorsport FR | AT Barchetta +wing | 3.3 | 11.3 | 951 |
| sport auto FR | AT Coupe +wing | 3.8 | 12.8 | 1,027.5 |
Motorsport FR acceleration results suspiciously identical to factory claims. Did they even clock it with GPS?
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AutoBild Sportscars Supertest: Alpina A110 R
- Tyres: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2
- Weight: 1066 kg
- 0-100 km/h in 4,1 s
- 0-200 km/h in 15,0 s
- 0-250 km/h in 29,7 s
- 100-200 km/h: 9,98 s
- 80-120 km/h in 5th gear: 4,0 s
- Braking 100-0 km/h (warm): 31,1 m
- Braking 200-0 km/h: 130,2 m
- Sachsenring: 1:33,18 min (Vmax.: 222,7 km/h)
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Quattroruote (IT) Test - Lamborghini Urus Performante
Vairano Pro: 1:29,434
Vmax: 226,4 km/h
Max. G-Force: 1,14
Vairano Handling Course: 1:15,374
Air Temperature: 14 c
Asphalt Temperature: 22 c
Acceleration (km/h):
0-60: 1,4
0-100: 3,1
0-110: 3,6
0-130: 4,8
0-150: 6,2
0-160: 7,0
0-180: 8,9
0-200: 11,3
0-220: 14,1
0-240: 18,1
0-400m: 11,1s @ 197,9 km/h
0-1000m: 20,5s @ 249,9 km/h
Stability Test:
- Double Lane Change(Wet): 92 km/h
- Straight Lane Change: -
- Lane Change when cornering: 107 km/h
Top Speed: 304,2 km/h
Max Speeds in Gear:
1st > 2nd: 64 km/h @ 6750rpm
2nd > 3rd: 96 km/h @ 6750rpm
3rd > 4th: 145 km/h @ 6750rpm
4th > 5th: 184 km/h @ 6750rpm
5th > 6th: 236 km/h @ 6750rpm
6th > 7th: 304 km/h @ 6750rpm
7th > 8th: 304 km/h @ 5600rpm
Braking:
100-0: 37,2 m (1,06 g)
200-0: 137,2 m (1,15 g)
Weight: 2,313 kg
Weight Distribution: 58/42%
Drag coefficient: 0.385
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
Tire Size: 285/40/22 | 325/35/22
Vairano Pro: 1:29,434
Vmax: 226,4 km/h
Max. G-Force: 1,14
Vairano Handling Course: 1:15,374
Air Temperature: 14 c
Asphalt Temperature: 22 c
Acceleration (km/h):
0-60: 1,4
0-100: 3,1
0-110: 3,6
0-130: 4,8
0-150: 6,2
0-160: 7,0
0-180: 8,9
0-200: 11,3
0-220: 14,1
0-240: 18,1
0-400m: 11,1s @ 197,9 km/h
0-1000m: 20,5s @ 249,9 km/h
Stability Test:
- Double Lane Change(Wet): 92 km/h
- Straight Lane Change: -
- Lane Change when cornering: 107 km/h
Top Speed: 304,2 km/h
Max Speeds in Gear:
1st > 2nd: 64 km/h @ 6750rpm
2nd > 3rd: 96 km/h @ 6750rpm
3rd > 4th: 145 km/h @ 6750rpm
4th > 5th: 184 km/h @ 6750rpm
5th > 6th: 236 km/h @ 6750rpm
6th > 7th: 304 km/h @ 6750rpm
7th > 8th: 304 km/h @ 5600rpm
Braking:
100-0: 37,2 m (1,06 g)
200-0: 137,2 m (1,15 g)
Weight: 2,313 kg
Weight Distribution: 58/42%
Drag coefficient: 0.385
Tire Brand: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
Tire Size: 285/40/22 | 325/35/22
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I would say on par, but Urus hybrid will walk both.
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Autocar Road Test - Tesla Model 3
Acceleration (mph) / [10deg C, dry]:
0-30: 2.1
0-40: 2.8
0-50: 3.5
0-60: 4.4
0-70: 5.5
0-80: 6.8
0-90: 8.4
0-100: 10.4
0-110: 12.7
0-120: 15.7
1/4 Mile - 12.9s @ 111.0mph
0-1000m: 23.9s @ 125.0mph
Braking:
60-0: 2.78s
Tires Brand: Michelin E Primacy
Tires Size: 235/45/18
Drag coefficient: 0.22
Weight: 1,846 kg
Weight Distribution: 50/50%
Price as tested: £59,800
Autocar Rivals Ranking:
1st: VW ID7 Pro Match - 4.5/5
2nd: Tesla Model 3 Long Range - 4/5
3rd: BMW i4 eDrive35 Sport - 4/5
4th: Polestar 2 LR Dual Motor - 4/5
5th: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate - 3.5/5
Acceleration (mph) / [10deg C, dry]:
0-30: 2.1
0-40: 2.8
0-50: 3.5
0-60: 4.4
0-70: 5.5
0-80: 6.8
0-90: 8.4
0-100: 10.4
0-110: 12.7
0-120: 15.7
1/4 Mile - 12.9s @ 111.0mph
0-1000m: 23.9s @ 125.0mph
Braking:
60-0: 2.78s
Tires Brand: Michelin E Primacy
Tires Size: 235/45/18
Drag coefficient: 0.22
Weight: 1,846 kg
Weight Distribution: 50/50%
Price as tested: £59,800
Autocar Rivals Ranking:
1st: VW ID7 Pro Match - 4.5/5
2nd: Tesla Model 3 Long Range - 4/5
3rd: BMW i4 eDrive35 Sport - 4/5
4th: Polestar 2 LR Dual Motor - 4/5
5th: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate - 3.5/5
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Sport Auto Supertest - Renault Megan R.S. Trophy-R (345 PS / 460 Nm)
NBR - 7:44
Vmax: 250 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,45g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 12c / 15c
HHR - 1:57,9
Vmax: 221 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,35 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 26c / 38c
Acceleration:
0-40: 2,1
0-100: 5,8
0-160: 11,6
0-200: 19,2
Slalom 18m: 72,1 km/h
Slalom 36m: 139 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 40,5 m
100-0(Warm): 33,9 m
200-0(Warm): 136,1 m
200-0 (km/h): 4,9s
0-200-0 (km/h): 24,1s
Tire Brand: Dunlop Direzza 03G H1
Tire Size: 265/35/18 | 245/40/18
Weight: 1,298 kg
Weight Distribution: 66,5/33,5%
Price as Tested: 75,606 €
Overall Rating (100 points): 67 pts
Driver: Christian Gebhardt
NBR - 7:44
Vmax: 250 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,45g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 12c / 15c
HHR - 1:57,9
Vmax: 221 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,35 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 26c / 38c
Acceleration:
0-40: 2,1
0-100: 5,8
0-160: 11,6
0-200: 19,2
Slalom 18m: 72,1 km/h
Slalom 36m: 139 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 40,5 m
100-0(Warm): 33,9 m
200-0(Warm): 136,1 m
200-0 (km/h): 4,9s
0-200-0 (km/h): 24,1s
Tire Brand: Dunlop Direzza 03G H1
Tire Size: 265/35/18 | 245/40/18
Weight: 1,298 kg
Weight Distribution: 66,5/33,5%
Price as Tested: 75,606 €
Overall Rating (100 points): 67 pts
Driver: Christian Gebhardt
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How does its times compare to the Honda Civic Type R?11 seconds quicker around the Nordschleife and 1.3 around HHR. Pretty good.
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Sport Auto Test - Audi RS7 Sportback Performance vs BMW Alpina B5 GT
HHR - 1:55,1 / 1:55,8
Vmax: 256 km/h / 263 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,25 g / 1,25 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 12c / 13c
Acceleration:
0-40: 1,0 / 1,1
0-100: 3,3 / 3,2
0-160: 7,4 / 6,6
0-200: 11,7 / 10,2
Slalom 18m: 69,0 km/h / 67,3 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 33,1 m / 35,3 m
100-0(Warm): 32,3 m / 34,8 m
200-0(Warm): 128,6 m / 136,6 m
Tire Brand: Conti SportContact 7 A0 / Pirelli P Zero
Tire Size: 285/30/22 - 255/35/20 | 295/30/20
Weight: 2,120 kg / 1,995 kg
Weight Distribution: 56,1/43,9% | 54,5/45,5%
Price as Tested: 178,000 € / 161,680 €
Overall Rating (100 points): 81 pts / 72 pts
HHR - 1:55,1 / 1:55,8
Vmax: 256 km/h / 263 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,25 g / 1,25 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 12c / 13c
Acceleration:
0-40: 1,0 / 1,1
0-100: 3,3 / 3,2
0-160: 7,4 / 6,6
0-200: 11,7 / 10,2
Slalom 18m: 69,0 km/h / 67,3 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 33,1 m / 35,3 m
100-0(Warm): 32,3 m / 34,8 m
200-0(Warm): 128,6 m / 136,6 m
Tire Brand: Conti SportContact 7 A0 / Pirelli P Zero
Tire Size: 285/30/22 - 255/35/20 | 295/30/20
Weight: 2,120 kg / 1,995 kg
Weight Distribution: 56,1/43,9% | 54,5/45,5%
Price as Tested: 178,000 € / 161,680 €
Overall Rating (100 points): 81 pts / 72 pts
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Sport Auto Test - Audi RS7 Sportback Performance vs BMW Alpina B5 GT
HHR - 1:55,1 / 1:55,8
Vmax: 256 km/h / 263 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,25 g / 1,25 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 12c / 13c
Acceleration:
0-40: 1,0 / 1,1
0-100: 3,3 / 3,2
0-160: 7,4 / 6,6
0-200: 11,7 / 10,2
Slalom 18m: 69,0 km/h / 67,3 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 33,1 m / 35,3 m
100-0(Warm): 32,3 m / 34,8 m
200-0(Warm): 128,6 m / 136,6 m
Tire Brand: Conti SportContact 7 A0 / Pirelli P Zero
Tire Size: 285/30/22 - 255/35/20 | 295/30/20
Weight: 2,120 kg / 1,995 kg
Weight Distribution: 56,1/43,9% | 54,5/45,5%
Price as Tested: 178,000 € / 161,680 €
Overall Rating (100 points): 81 pts / 72 pts
Wow. These Alpina GT's are quick in a straight line and in-gear acceleration. The Ultimate Ultimate sleeper.
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Blast from the Past Supertest - Ferrari 458 Italia
NBR - 7:38
Vmax: 295 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,55g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: - / -
HHR (Short) - 1:10,5
Vmax: 211 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,25 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: - / -
Acceleration:
0-40: 1,3
0-100: 3,5
0-160: 7,1
0-200: 10,6
Slalom 18m: 70,7 km/h
Slalom 36m: 136 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 34,6 m
100-0(Warm): 33,6 m
200-0(Warm): 133,3 m
0-200-0 (km/h): 15,4s
Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport (K1)
Tire Size: 235/35/20 | 295/35/20
Weight: 1,540 kg
Weight Distribution: 42,3/57,7%
Price as tested: 243,183 €
Overall Rating (100 points): 83 pts
Driver: Horst von Saurma
NBR - 7:38
Vmax: 295 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,55g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: - / -
HHR (Short) - 1:10,5
Vmax: 211 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,25 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: - / -
Acceleration:
0-40: 1,3
0-100: 3,5
0-160: 7,1
0-200: 10,6
Slalom 18m: 70,7 km/h
Slalom 36m: 136 km/h
Braking:
100-0(Cold): 34,6 m
100-0(Warm): 33,6 m
200-0(Warm): 133,3 m
0-200-0 (km/h): 15,4s
Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport (K1)
Tire Size: 235/35/20 | 295/35/20
Weight: 1,540 kg
Weight Distribution: 42,3/57,7%
Price as tested: 243,183 €
Overall Rating (100 points): 83 pts
Driver: Horst von Saurma
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