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Aero really kicks in over 250 kph, also the peak power drops after 10 seconds down to around 800 PS.
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The Taycan GT seems alot slower at speeds above 250km/h than the Tesla Model S Plaid and the Lucid Air Sapphire, which hit 300km/h in about 15sec as per tests done in the US.Aero really kicks in over 250 kph, also the peak power drops after 10 seconds down to around 800 PS.
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I compiled some Nordschleife data (<7:17 laps) from Sport Auto.
The C7 Z06 is the only wonky entry, because the magazine data panel doesn't quite match the onboard telemetry, and so I combined the two according to my judgement. Usually, the telemetry readout vs magazine data is ±1 kph, but for some reason the C7 was off by up to 10 kph on more than one section.
Another outlier is the 918 entry, which was driven by Horst von Saurma, with his ugly, sawing-like steering inputs (caused by him holding the wheel at 10:00 and 2:00). Still, I thought it'd be a shame to exclude it.
The C7 Z06 is the only wonky entry, because the magazine data panel doesn't quite match the onboard telemetry, and so I combined the two according to my judgement. Usually, the telemetry readout vs magazine data is ±1 kph, but for some reason the C7 was off by up to 10 kph on more than one section.
Another outlier is the 918 entry, which was driven by Horst von Saurma, with his ugly, sawing-like steering inputs (caused by him holding the wheel at 10:00 and 2:00). Still, I thought it'd be a shame to exclude it.
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He had a motorcycle accident, that's why the strange steering style.
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I compiled some Nordschleife data (<7:17 laps) from Sport Auto.
The C7 Z06 is the only wonky entry, because the magazine data panel doesn't quite match the onboard telemetry, and so I combined the two according to my judgement. Usually, the telemetry readout vs magazine data is ±1 kph, but for some reason the C7 was off by up to 10 kph on more than one section.
Another outlier is the 918 entry, which was driven by Horst von Saurma, with his ugly, sawing-like steering inputs (caused by him holding the wheel at 10:00 and 2:00). Still, I thought it'd be a shame to exclude it.
Famous again! Ongoing collab?!!?!
It's not a production-spec front splitter, they use "production-able spec" in their Weibo PR statement, which is most likely not going to be road-legal in China, the car that was already on sale in China is with much less aggressive front splitter. As for Xiaomi, they will hit the track early next year for the lap time attempt with full production SU7 Ultra, and continue developing both production & time attack cars on Nordschleife for the next 10 years at least.
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It's starting to look like a paid promotion of GCFFamous again! Ongoing collab?!!?!
BTW, just to add some further info on top of what fuhro already posted... In the article it says that Chevrolet had 50-strong team on the ground +people from Michelin North America (they were there for ZR1 development).
The Chevy engineers recommended Christian to use the transmission in automatic mode (which he thought was as good as Porsche's PDK) and prepared an individual preset with optimal car settings. Tires were a fresh set preheated to 85°C. Air temp was 18°C and asphalt temp was 27°C. Sadly, no mention of how much seat time he got prior to the hot lap.
Also, the 1,654 kg weight was measured using a lightweight Sparco bucket seat for the driver.
It reads like the car was stable and predictable, with good steering and maybe a bit of a tendency to over-rotate if you trailbrake a lot.
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Auto Motor und Sport: McLaren 750S (with 720S data...)
Something didn't add up with the acceleration data... I've seen these numbers, the ones over 200 kph.
I dug deeper in my database and surprise-surprise, the acceleration figures of the 750S over 200 kph are identical by the tenth to the ones they've managed with the 720S...
You can see the acceleration graph is strange AF, because of this weird mash-up. I know AutoBild is a "liar", but now it's AMuS' time?
The car was obviously performance tested in Hockenheim by Sport Auto, therefore no high-speed acceleration data (like 0-300) was available, so they went the easiest way around that problem: they used the ones for the 720S...
With a subscription you can see all performance data of the 720S in their website as well:
- Tyres: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
- Weight: 1425 kg
- Weight distribution: 41,1/58,9 %
- 0 - 50 km/h: 1,5 s
- 0-100 km/h: 2,9 s
- 0-160 km/h: 5,4 s
- 0-200 km/h: 7,9 s
- 0-260 km/h: 12,7 s (720S data)
- 0-300 km/h: 19,2 s (720S data)
- 400 m: 10,3 s (229 km/h - incorrect trap speed)
- Braking (100-0 km/h cold/warm): 31,2/31,1 m
- 18 m slalom: 72,6 km/h
- Double lane-change: 154,1 km/h
Something didn't add up with the acceleration data... I've seen these numbers, the ones over 200 kph.
I dug deeper in my database and surprise-surprise, the acceleration figures of the 750S over 200 kph are identical by the tenth to the ones they've managed with the 720S...
You can see the acceleration graph is strange AF, because of this weird mash-up. I know AutoBild is a "liar", but now it's AMuS' time?
The car was obviously performance tested in Hockenheim by Sport Auto, therefore no high-speed acceleration data (like 0-300) was available, so they went the easiest way around that problem: they used the ones for the 720S...
With a subscription you can see all performance data of the 720S in their website as well:
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Auto Motor und Sport: McLaren 750S (with 720S data...)
- Tyres: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
- Weight: 1425 kg
- Weight distribution: 41,1/58,9 %
- 0 - 50 km/h: 1,5 s
- 0-100 km/h: 2,9 s
- 0-160 km/h: 5,4 s
- 0-200 km/h: 7,9 s
- 0-260 km/h: 12,7 s (720S data)
- 0-300 km/h: 19,2 s (720S data)
- 400 m: 10,3 s (229 km/h - incorrect trap speed)
- Braking (100-0 km/h cold/warm): 31,2/31,1 m
- 18 m slalom: 72,6 km/h
- Double lane-change: 154,1 km/h
Something didn't add up with the acceleration data... I've seen these numbers, the ones over 200 kph.
I dug deeper in my database and surprise-surprise, the acceleration figures of the 750S over 200 kph are identical by the tenth to the ones they've managed with the 720S...
You can see the acceleration graph is strange AF, because of this weird mash-up. I know AutoBild is a "liar", but now it's AMuS' time?
The car was obviously performance tested in Hockenheim by Sport Auto, therefore no high-speed acceleration data (like 0-300) was available, so they went the easiest way around that problem: they used the ones for the 720S...
With a subscription you can see all performance data of the 720S in their website as well:
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AutoZeitung: Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS T-Hybrid
- Power, torque: 541 PS, 610 Nm
- Weight (wet): 1696 kg
- Tyres: Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport R NA2
- 0-100 km/h: 2,8 s
- 0-200 km/h: 9,8 s
- Topspeed: 312 km/h
- Braking (150-0/100-0 km/h): 69,4 m/31,5 m (warm)
- Avg. fuel consumption: 11,0 l/100 km
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C&D Comparison
Silicon and Steel: 2025 Aston Martin Vantage vs. Porsche 911 Turbo
"Vantage owners racing for pink slips will want to specify a race to 180 mph, which is the point where the Aston finally hangs a lead on the 911 Turbo, 24.1 seconds to 25.0."
Specifications
2025 Aston Martin Vantage
Vehicle Type: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door hatchback
PRICE
Base/As Tested: $194,500/$302,100
Options: carbon-ceramic disc brakes, $14,400; Q Special Range paint, $13,600; lower carbon package, $12,3000; Inspire Sport Monotone interior package (16-way adjustable ventilated seats, embroidered wings headrest, quilted detailing, upper and lower carbon trim inlays), $12,300; Bowers & Wilkins sound system, $10,000; blue-tinted carbon center stack, $7200; upper carbon package, $5700; tinted-blue center stack inlay, $5700; carbon-fiber roof, $4700; Contemporary leather color, $3300; Alcantara headliner, $3100; contrast stitching, $2900; Contemporary carpet color, $2400; Dark Chrome Jewelry package, $2300; Black Wings badges, $1800; 21-inch 5-spoke forged wheels, $1500; tinted taillights, $1400; heated steering wheel, $800; power door handles, $600; umbrella, $500; first aid kid, $300
ENGINE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 243 in3, 3982 cm3
Power: 656 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 590 lb-ft @ 2750 rpm
TRANSMISSION
8-speed automatic
CHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: control arms/multilink
Brakes, F/R: 16.1-in vented, cross-drilled, carbon-ceramic disc/14.2-in vented, cross-drilled, carbon-ceramic disc
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport S5
F: 275/35ZR-21 (103Y) AML
R: 325/30ZR-21 (108Y) AML
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 106.5 in
Length: 177.0 in
Width: 78.0 in
Height: 50.2 in
Passenger Volume: 50 ft3
Cargo Volume: 12 ft3
Curb Weight: 3884 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 3.2 sec
100 mph: 6.6 sec
130 mph: 10.6 sec
1/4-Mile: 11.1 sec @ 133 mph
150 mph: 14.5 sec
170 mph: 20.1 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 3.9 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.2 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 2.6 sec
Top Speed (mfr claim): 202 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 148 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 301 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 1.01 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
650-Mile Trip: 19 mpg
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 18/15/22 mpg
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2024 Porsche 911 Turbo
Vehicle Type: rear-engine, all-wheel-drive, 2+2-passenger, 2-door coupe
PRICE
Base/As Tested: $199,850/$216,990
Options: sport exhaust, $3490; Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control, $3170; front-axle lift, $2770; PASM Sport Suspension, $1510; surround view, $1430; 18-way adjustable adaptive sport seats, $1150; lane-change assist, $1060; ventilated front seats; $840; High Gloss Black window trim, $510; Guards Red center tachometer, $420; Guards Red Sport Chrono stopwatch, $420; power-folding mirrors, $370
ENGINE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve flat-6, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 229 in3, 3746 cm3
Power: 572 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 553 lb-ft @ 2250 rpm
TRANSMISSION
8-speed dual-clutch automatic
CHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: struts/multilink
Brakes, F/R: 16.1-in vented, cross-drilled disc/15.0-in vented, cross-drilled disc
Tires: Pirelli P Zero PZ4
F: 255/35ZR-20 (93Y) NA1
R: 315/30ZR-21 (105Y) NA1
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 96.5 in
Length: 178.5 in
Width: 74.8 in
Height: 50.9 in
Passenger Volume, F/R: 49/25 ft3
Cargo Volume: 5 ft3
Curb Weight: 3693 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 2.3 sec
100 mph: 5.8 sec
130 mph: 9.9 sec
1/4-Mile: 10.3 sec @ 133 mph
150 mph: 13.9 sec
170 mph: 19.8 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.2 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 3.9 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.2 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 2.5 sec
Top Speed (mfr claim): 199 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 142 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 286 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 1.06 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
650-Mile Trip: 18 mpg
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 17/14/21 mpg
Silicon and Steel: 2025 Aston Martin Vantage vs. Porsche 911 Turbo
"Vantage owners racing for pink slips will want to specify a race to 180 mph, which is the point where the Aston finally hangs a lead on the 911 Turbo, 24.1 seconds to 25.0."
Specifications
2025 Aston Martin Vantage
Vehicle Type: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door hatchback
PRICE
Base/As Tested: $194,500/$302,100
Options: carbon-ceramic disc brakes, $14,400; Q Special Range paint, $13,600; lower carbon package, $12,3000; Inspire Sport Monotone interior package (16-way adjustable ventilated seats, embroidered wings headrest, quilted detailing, upper and lower carbon trim inlays), $12,300; Bowers & Wilkins sound system, $10,000; blue-tinted carbon center stack, $7200; upper carbon package, $5700; tinted-blue center stack inlay, $5700; carbon-fiber roof, $4700; Contemporary leather color, $3300; Alcantara headliner, $3100; contrast stitching, $2900; Contemporary carpet color, $2400; Dark Chrome Jewelry package, $2300; Black Wings badges, $1800; 21-inch 5-spoke forged wheels, $1500; tinted taillights, $1400; heated steering wheel, $800; power door handles, $600; umbrella, $500; first aid kid, $300
ENGINE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 243 in3, 3982 cm3
Power: 656 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 590 lb-ft @ 2750 rpm
TRANSMISSION
8-speed automatic
CHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: control arms/multilink
Brakes, F/R: 16.1-in vented, cross-drilled, carbon-ceramic disc/14.2-in vented, cross-drilled, carbon-ceramic disc
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport S5
F: 275/35ZR-21 (103Y) AML
R: 325/30ZR-21 (108Y) AML
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 106.5 in
Length: 177.0 in
Width: 78.0 in
Height: 50.2 in
Passenger Volume: 50 ft3
Cargo Volume: 12 ft3
Curb Weight: 3884 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 3.2 sec
100 mph: 6.6 sec
130 mph: 10.6 sec
1/4-Mile: 11.1 sec @ 133 mph
150 mph: 14.5 sec
170 mph: 20.1 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 3.9 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.2 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 2.6 sec
Top Speed (mfr claim): 202 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 148 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 301 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 1.01 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
650-Mile Trip: 19 mpg
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 18/15/22 mpg
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2024 Porsche 911 Turbo
Vehicle Type: rear-engine, all-wheel-drive, 2+2-passenger, 2-door coupe
PRICE
Base/As Tested: $199,850/$216,990
Options: sport exhaust, $3490; Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control, $3170; front-axle lift, $2770; PASM Sport Suspension, $1510; surround view, $1430; 18-way adjustable adaptive sport seats, $1150; lane-change assist, $1060; ventilated front seats; $840; High Gloss Black window trim, $510; Guards Red center tachometer, $420; Guards Red Sport Chrono stopwatch, $420; power-folding mirrors, $370
ENGINE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve flat-6, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 229 in3, 3746 cm3
Power: 572 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 553 lb-ft @ 2250 rpm
TRANSMISSION
8-speed dual-clutch automatic
CHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: struts/multilink
Brakes, F/R: 16.1-in vented, cross-drilled disc/15.0-in vented, cross-drilled disc
Tires: Pirelli P Zero PZ4
F: 255/35ZR-20 (93Y) NA1
R: 315/30ZR-21 (105Y) NA1
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 96.5 in
Length: 178.5 in
Width: 74.8 in
Height: 50.9 in
Passenger Volume, F/R: 49/25 ft3
Cargo Volume: 5 ft3
Curb Weight: 3693 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 2.3 sec
100 mph: 5.8 sec
130 mph: 9.9 sec
1/4-Mile: 10.3 sec @ 133 mph
150 mph: 13.9 sec
170 mph: 19.8 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.2 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 3.9 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.2 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 2.5 sec
Top Speed (mfr claim): 199 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 142 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 286 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 1.06 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
650-Mile Trip: 18 mpg
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 17/14/21 mpg
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Autocar Road Test: Lamborghini Revuelto
- Weight (wet): 1960 kg
- Tyres: Bridgestone Potenza Sport RFT
- 0 - 30mph: 1,3 s
- 0 - 60mph: 2,48 s
- 0-100 km/h: 2,6 s
- 0-100mph: 4,8 s
- 0-150mph: 10,0 s
- Quarter mile: 9,9 s @149,3mph (240,3 km/h)
- Standing km: 17,7 s @186,6mph (300,3 km/h)
0-100 km/h in 2,6 s
0-200 km/h in 7,0 s
0-300 km/h in 17,7 s ...with 2 people onboard.
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I was gonna ask if the weight wasn't supposed to be 1595kg, but this is actually the "4" version, so the claimed weight in that case is 1645kg. Still, quite the porker for only being the GTS. Let's see how much the hybrid Turbo weighs.
AutoZeitung: Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS T-Hybrid
- Power, torque: 541 PS, 610 Nm
- Weight (wet): 1696 kg
- Tyres: Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport R NA2
- 0-100 km/h: 2,8 s
- 0-200 km/h: 9,8 s
- Topspeed: 312 km/h
- Braking (150-0/100-0 km/h): 69,4 m/31,5 m (warm)
- Avg. fuel consumption: 11,0 l/100 km
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Time flies: 20 years ago at Nardo the Enzo Ferrari sprinted from 0 to 300 km/h in 26,1 seconds or 1476 metres.
Now, the Revuelto reaches the same speed 476 metres and 8,4 seconds earlier... Insane!
In a virtual race the Enzo would cross the 1 km mark 2,4 seconds after the Lambo, travelling 22 km/h less.
Now, the Revuelto reaches the same speed 476 metres and 8,4 seconds earlier... Insane!
In a virtual race the Enzo would cross the 1 km mark 2,4 seconds after the Lambo, travelling 22 km/h less.
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