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do you think McMurty has opened a can of worms by using a fan and that other manufacturers will follow soon?

do you think we will ever see the 1600hp, TTV6, 600-ish kg Red Bull X2011 being made to demolish all records?
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I thought it'd be ~2,000 kg without fuel. 1,950 kg with full tank is a pleasant surprise! :D
Its a pity that its 200kg heavier than the SF90 and Aventador and even the Bugatti Tourbillon is lighter despite having a much bigger 25kwHr battery compared to only 3.8kwHr in the Revuelta. Hopefully the upcoming SV version will be able to save some more weight.
 
do you think McMurty has opened a can of worms by using a fan and that other manufacturers will follow soon?

do you think we will ever see the 1600hp, TTV6, 600-ish kg Red Bull X2011 being made to demolish all records?
I do think there will be more adopters, yes. And hopefully they improve upon the concept. The problem with Spéirling is that no matter how fast it is, it's still a soulless two-pedal masher EV without the gears serving as a speed reference.
The drive modes are very cool, but the RC-toy-like whine always stays with you. And I imagine that's a deal breaker for many potential customers.
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I would love to see the fan concept applied to a light ICE powered track missile. Maybe not quite the level of Red Bull X2011, where you need a G-suit to not pass out from driving it... But imagine something like GMA T.50s with enhanced fan element. That car is under 900 kg with a fan system already present (just not nearly as effective as McMurtry's).
Re-engineer that car with sealed off underbody and a small battery to power the fan. You'd be lighter than Spéirling with a much more palatable driving experience. The acceleration out of corners would be less than the 1000 hp EV shove. But then, do you consider the standard T.50s slow? Of course not! And this would have way higher minimal speed than the normal car.
Also, combining fan with ICE opens up cool engineering opportunities to be explored in the way how the fan is powered. If you had a turbo engine, you could employ energy regen à la Porsche 919's GU-H energy harvesting setup, recharging the, now even smaller, battery.
 
Sport Auto France Supertest - Mercedes-AMG C63 S E Performance

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Circuit Val de Vienne Lap Time - 1:49,76
Vmax: 231 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: +1,2 / -1,2

Track Conditions: 16deg C - Dry

Driver: Christophe Tinseau

Acceleration (km/h):

0-100:
3,4
0-160: 7,7
0-200: 13,0

0-400m: 11,6s @ 192 km/h
0-1000m: 21,5s @ 237 km/h

Braking:

200-0: 147 m

Weight: 2175 kg
Weight Distribution: 50/50%

Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S
Tire Size: 265/35/20 | 275/35/20

Rating: 3/5

Price as tested: 167,890 €
 
Sport Auto France Supertest - Mercedes-AMG C63 S E Performance

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Circuit Val de Vienne Lap Time - 1:49,76
Vmax: 231 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: +1,2 / -1,2

Track Conditions: 16deg C - Dry

Driver: Christophe Tinseau

Acceleration (km/h):

0-100:
3,4
0-160: 7,7
0-200: 13,0

0-400m: 11,6s @ 192 km/h
0-1000m: 21,5s @ 237 km/h

Braking:

200-0: 147 m

Weight: 2175 kg
Weight Distribution: 50/50%

Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S
Tire Size: 265/35/20 | 275/35/20

Rating: 3/5

Price as tested: 167,890 €
It sits so well on the road. Shame about what's in the engine bay.
 
Sport Auto France Supertest - Mercedes-AMG GT 63 S 4Matic+

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Circuit Val de Vienne Lap Time - 1:46,66
Vmax: 239 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: +1,2 / -1,2

Track Conditions: 12deg C - Track drying out

Driver: Christophe Tinseau

Acceleration (km/h):

0-100:
3,2
0-160: 7,3
0-200: 11,5

0-400m: 11,3s @ 198 km/h
0-1000m: 20,8s @ 252 km/h

Braking:

200-0: 141 m

Weight: 1950 kg
Weight Distribution: 54/46%

Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport S 5
Tire Size: 295/30/21 | 305/30/21

Rating: 4/5

Price as tested: 280,850 €

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Quattroruote (IT) Test - Lamborghini Revuelto

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Vairano Pro:
1:24,395
Vmax: 264,0 km/h
Max. G-Force: 1,23

Air Temperature: 25c
Asphalt Temperature: 34c

Acceleration (km/h):

0-60:
1,3
0-100: 2,4
0-120: 3,1
0-130: 3,5
0-150: 4,3
0-160: 4,7
0-180: 5,8
0-200: 7,1
0-220: 8,4
0-240: 10,0
0-260: 11,9
0-280: 14,4
0-300: 18,2

0-400m: 9,7s @ 236,7 km/h
0-1000m: 17,6s @ 298,1 km/h

Stability Test:

- Double Lane Change(Wet):
92 km/h
- Straight Lane Change: 139 km/h
- Lane Change when cornering: 108 km/h

Top Speed (EV Mode): 139,0 km/h

Top Speed (Corsa Mode): 352,3 km/h

Noise Level dB(A) Maximum Acceleration: 97,7

Max Speeds in Gear:

1st > 2nd:
94 km/h @ 9500rpm
2nd > 3rd: 132m/h @ 9500rpm
3rd > 4th: 170 km/h @ 9500rpm
4th > 5th: 231 km/h @ 9500rpm
5th > 6th: 278 km/h @ 9500rpm
6th > 7th: 319 km/h @ 9500rpm
7th > 8th: 352 km/h @ 9050rpm

Braking:

100-0: 37,0 m (1,06 g)
200-0: 135,4 m (1,16 g)

Weight: 2,053 kg
Weight Distribution: 44/56%

Drag coefficient: -

Tire Brand: Bridgestone Potenza Sport
Tire Size: 265/35/20 | 345/30/21
 
Slower than a 296 from 100-300 kph. Slower than a SF90 period. Incredibly heavy. All of this was expected. I can imagine this car just eats tires in one single gulp.
 
Autocar Road Test - Porsche 911 S/T (992) (6-Spd/Manual)

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Lap Time:
-

Acceleration (mph) / [16deg C, dry] vs [2004 Porsche Carrera GT 20deg C, dry]:

0-30:
1.7 / 1.7
0-40: 2.2 / 2.2
0-50: 3.0 / 2.9
0-60: 3.7 / 3.7
0-70: 4.4 / 4.4
0-80: 5.6 / 5.2
0-90: 6.5 / 6.3
0-100: 7.6 / 7.4
0-110: 9.5 / 8.7
0-120: 10.9 / 10.2
0-130: 13.3 / 11.8
0-140: 15.5 / 13.6
0-150: 18.0 / 15.8
0-160: 21.8 / -

1/4 Mile - 11.9s @ 125.4mph / 11.6s @ 129.0mph

0-1000m: 21.2s @ 157.4mph / -

30 - 70mph: 2.6s / 2.7s


Max Speeds in Gear:

1st:
47mph @ 9000rpm
2nd: 74mph @ 9000rpm
3rd: 103mph @ 9000rpm
4th: 132mph @ 9000rpm
5th: 164mph @ 9000rpm
6th: 186mph @ 8321rpm*

Braking:

60-0:
2.37s / -

30-0: 8.0 m / 8.8 m
50-0:
21.2 m / 25.6 m
70-0:
42.5 m / 52.1 m

Tires Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2
Tires Size: 255/35/20 | 315/30/21

Drag coefficient: 0.35

Weight: 1,408 kg
Weight Distribution: 39/61%

Price as tested: £255,092

Autocar Rivals Ranking:

1st:
Porsche 911 S/T - 5/5
2nd:
Ferrari 296 GTB - 5/5
3rd: RUF SCR - 4.5/5
4th: Porsche 911 GT3 Touring - 4.5/5
5th: GMA T.33 - n/a
 
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I see that the same will happen with the SF90 XX as it did with the standard SF90. On both occasions Gebhardt showed on his Instagram page teaser video of him doing laps on the Nurburgring. And again, I guess we will never get a laptime or supertest in both cases.
 
I am not sure that this is the right thread, but I didn't want to create a new one just for this - and it's fairly relevant to car tests anyway!

A tire test! Done by Autobild, using the GT3RS as the test vehicle.

But not just any tire test - one where the Trofeo RS finally gets measured!

And guess what! It actually beats the Cup 2 R!
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And not only that, it also beats it for average time over a long session:
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Now, before we crown the new king, it's worth mentioning that Porsche is still doing all their N-ring lap records with the Cup 2 R, so it's a question if the Trofeo RS is truly faster on all sorts of tracks in all sorts of conditions, but this is definitely a good start!
 
The difference in rubber pickup is fascinating. Pirelli really cooked up some miraculous tire this time.
It's just a shame it seems to be OEM spec only for now (and not general use).
 

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