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Sport Auto - Porsche 718 Spyder RS

HHR - 1:52,7
Vmax: 252 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,40 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 22c / 27c

Acceleration:

0-40: 1,4
0-100: 3,8
0-160: 7,8
0-200: 12,0

Top Speed: 308 km/h

Slalom 18m: 72,9 km/h

Braking:

100-0(Cold): 36,8 m
100-0(Warm): 33,5 m
200-0(Warm): 138,2 m

Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 (N1)
Tire Size: 245/35/20 | 295/30/20

Weight: 1,463 kg
Weight Distribution: 44,3/55,7%

Price as tested: 177,876 €

Overall Rating (100 point): 89 pts

 

[DeDe]

Sport Auto Supertest - Maserati MC20 (572 PS / 757 Nm)

HHR - 1:51,5
Vmax: 265 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,30 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 19c / 27c

Disappointing time at Hockemheimring! A 992 Turbo on normal P Zero road tyres is 2.2 (!) seconds quicker than the MC20...

Few reference times:
1:47,8 min - Porsche 911 Turbo S (992) - P Zero
1:48,2 min - McLaren 720S - P Zero Corsa
1:49,0 min - Lamborghini Huracán EVO - Trofeo R
1:49,3 min - Porsche 911 Turbo (992) - P Zero
1:50,1 min - BMW M4 CSL - Cup 2 R
1:51,0 min - Porsche 911 GT3 Touring (992, manual) - Cup 2
1:51,5 min - Maserati MC20 - Cup 2

 

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Sport Auto - Audi RS 6 Avant Performance

Anneau du Rhin: 1:20,2
Vmax: 227 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: 1,25 g
Air / Asphalt Temperature: 26c / 39

Acceleration:

0-40: 1,1
0-100: 3,4
0-160: 7,4
0-200: 11,7

Top Speed: 305 km/h

Slalom 18m: 69,0 km/h

Braking:

100-0(Cold): 33,3 m
100-0(Warm): 33,1 m
200-0(Warm): 127,2 m

Tire Brand: Continental ContiSportContact 7 (A0)
Tire Size: 285/30/22

Weight: 2,144 kg
Weight Distribution: 55,5/44,5%

Price as tested: 183,150 €

Overall Rating (100 points): 81 pts

 

[Rolf]

Disappointing time at Hockemheimring! A 992 Turbo on normal P Zero road tyres is 2.2 (!) seconds quicker than the MC20...

Few reference times:
1:47,8 min - Porsche 911 Turbo S (992) - P Zero
1:48,2 min - McLaren 720S - P Zero Corsa
1:49,0 min - Lamborghini Huracán EVO - Trofeo R
1:49,3 min - Porsche 911 Turbo (992) - P Zero
1:50,1 min - BMW M4 CSL - Cup 2 R
1:51,0 min - Porsche 911 GT3 Touring (992, manual) - Cup 2
1:51,5 min - Maserati MC20 - Cup 2

Even the N-Ring time of 7:25 seems slow for its power, weight and low riding height. An AMG GT63 S 4dr ran the size time and that is a 2.1ton sports saloon with higher center of gravity and front engined.

 

[Bridster]

Even the N-Ring time of 7:25 seems slow for its power, weight and low riding height. An AMG GT63 S 4dr ran the size time and that is a 2.1ton sports saloon with higher center of gravity and front engined.

We knew that the MC20 was slow... me and a couple of other people all guessed high 20s if the car was on Potenza Sport tires. This is all within expectations.

You can't really compare factory laps to Sport Auto laps, but yeah, it's still slower than something like the M4 CSL (7:17 Sport Auto), or the 488 GTB from 7 years ago (7:22), never mind modern competition like the 992 GT3 (7:05), or the 296 GTB (6:59). On Potenza Race tires you could expect at least 5s improvement, but that still wouldn't make it terribly competitive.

The car also seemed pretty low on power. 572PS vs 630PS advertised. Not sure if that was just a problem of that particular car, or if Maserati are over-rating it in general.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

1:51,5 min - Maserati MC20 - Cup 2

Why have you quoted Cup 2 on the Maserati? Didn’t it use Bridgestone Potenza Sport?

 

[DeDe]

Why have you quoted Cup 2 on the Maserati? Didn’t it use Bridgestone Potenza Sport?

You're right, my bad.

 

[Revvd]

The car also seemed pretty low on power. 572PS vs 630PS advertised. Not sure if that was just a problem of that particular car, or if Maserati are over-rating it in general.

I just read the article (via Google Translate). Apparently Maserati mechanics explained the disappointing dyno result by saying the dyno station was at 757 meters above sea, whereas the factory claim is only up to 600 m of elevation. Also, they put in 95 octane fuel for the dyno run
But then Gebhardt goes on to say that the car felt like <600 PS even at a test airfield, 170 m above sea.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

I just read the article (via Google Translate). Apparently Maserati mechanics explained the disappointing dyno result by saying the dyno station was at 757 meters above sea, whereas the factory claim is only up to 600 m of elevation. Also, they put in 95 octane fuel for the dyno run
But then Gebhardt goes on to say that the car felt like 600 PS even at a test airfield, 170 m above sea.

I see that acceleration results is slower than other european tests

 

[Revvd]

Another interesting bit from the test is MC20 only managing 288 kph at the end of Döttinger Höhe.
For comparison, McLaren 600LT at the same section hit 303 kph (claimed 600 PS / dynoed at 618 PS; 1,434 kg with full tank).

Also, they estimate 8 to 10 second Nordschelife lap time improvement with proper semislicks.

 

[Bridster]

C&D 0-150-0mph Test:

 

[Jo_Sta7]

C&D got 150 mph in 15.0 seconds for their long term Z06 tester. 100 mph in 5.9.

 

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0-150mph-0

03:43 Honda Civic Type R, 52.7 sec
04:50 Hyundai Elantra N, 47.0 sec
05:49 Volkswagen Golf R, 40.2 sec
06:46 Bentley Bentayga S, 32.8 sec
07:50 Kia EV6 GT, 31.2 sec
08:43 Toyota GR Supra, 31.1 sec
09:34 Ford Mustang Dark Horse, 29.7 sec
11:07 Bentley Continental GT Speed, 24.8 sec
12:07 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing, 24.7 sec
13:09 Porsche 911 GT3 RS, 24.4 sec
14:33 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 22.5 sec
15:56 Porsche 911 Turbo S, 19.3 sec and 200 mph

 

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Autocar Road Test - Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992)

Anglesey Circuit (International) Lap Time: 1:37 / (12deg C, damp) / 1:38.1 (992 GT3 / 17deg C, dry) - Autocar BBDC 2023 Test

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Acceleration (mph) / [18deg C, dry]:

0-30: 1.4
0-40: 2.0
0-50: 2.5
0-60: 3.2
0-70: 4.0
0-80: 4.9
0-90: 5.9
0-100: 7.1
0-110: 8.5
0-120: 10.1
0-130: 12.0
0-140: 14.3
0-150: 17.2
0-160: 21.5

1/4 Mile - 11.5s @ 126.9mph

0-1000m: 20.7s @ 159.9mph

Max Speeds in Gear:

1st: 48mph @ 9000rpm
2nd: 76mph @ 9000rpm
3rd: 105mph @ 9000rpm
4th: 135mph @ 9000rpm
5th: 163mph @ 9000rpm
6th: 184mph @ 8771rpm
7th: 184mph @ 7675rpm*

Braking:

60-0: 2.41s

Tires Brand: Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport R
Tires Size: 275/35/20 | 335/30/21

Drag coefficient: 0.39

Weight: 1,476 kg
Weight Distribution: 37/63%

Price as tested: £235,007

Autocar Rivals Ranking:

1st: Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992) - 4.5/5
2nd: Lamborghini Huracan STO - 4.5/5
3rd: McLaren 765LT - 4.5/5
4th: Mercedes-AMG GT Black-Series - 4/5
5th: Ferrari SF90 XX Stradale - n/a

 

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Sport Auto France Supertest - Honda Civic Type R (FL5)

Circuit Val de Vienne Lap Time - 1:53,10
Vmax: 212 km/h
Max Lateral G-Force: +1,2G / -1.1G

Track Conditions: 12deg C - Dry track

Driver: Christophe Tinseau

Acceleration (km/h):

0-100: 6,4
0-160: 13,1
0-200: 21,3

0-400m: 14,3s @ 169 km/h
0-1000m: 25,5s @ 218 km/h

Braking:

200-0: -

Weight: 1429,5 kg
Weight Distribution: 62/38%

Tire Brand: Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S
Tire Size: 265/30/19

Rating: 5/5

Price as tested: 70,422 €

 

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Sport Auto France - Tesla Model S Plaid

Acceleration (km/h):

0-100: 2,4
0-160: 4,5
0-200: 6,7
0-300: 16,2

0-400m: 9,6s @ 241 km/h
0-1000m: 17,4s @ 308 km/h

Vmax: 325 km/h

Braking:

200-0: 143 m (1,1G)

Price as tested: 134,390 €

 

[Rolf]

Sport Auto France - Tesla Model S Plaid

Acceleration (km/h):

0-100: 2,4
0-160: 4,5
0-200: 6,7
0-300: 16,2

0-400m: 9,6s @ 241 km/h
0-1000m: 17,4s @ 308 km/h

Vmax: 325 km/h

Braking:

200-0: 143 m (1,1G)

Price as tested: 134,390 €

These are slower times up to 200km/h but 16.2sec to 300km/h and 1km in 17.4sec@308km/h is shattering.

 

[Tourbillon]

These are slower times up to 200km/h but 16.2sec to 300km/h and 1km in 17.4sec@308km/h is shattering.

What do you think 322km/h around 19.X seconds?

 

[Jo_Sta7]

Electric cars with little drag and massive horsepower are very quick……