Vs Swedish test: Film: white M3 V8 vs blue RS4

[Zafiro]

Webb-TV - Auto Motor & Sport - Sveriges snabbaste bil-tv!

 

[EnI]

Translation?

 

[Zafiro]

Im at work now so I cant watch the video to hear what they say.

 

[LaArtist]

He more or less said that there is no better one..
its about choices..

If you want a TGV train fixed to the rails.. get the RS4
If you want to go sideways and laugh your teeth out get the M3..



PS
give me the M3 please.. i have alot of experience by now with the RS4..and the car is to sure footed.. it frustrates me..

but i must say.. the RS4 looks better..
so i need a rear wheel drived.. good looking car..
hmm what can that be.. hmm

 

[RICHBOY]

He more or less said that there is no better one..
its about choices..

If you want a TGV train fixed to the rails.. get the RS4
If you want to go sideways and laugh your teeth out get the M3..



PS
give me the M3 please.. i have alot of experience by now with the RS4..and the car is to sure footed.. it frustrates me..

but i must say.. the RS4 looks better..
so i need a rear wheel drived.. good looking car..
hmm what can that be.. hmm

Something tells me your leaning towards that three pointed star!

 

[Centurion]

Awsome review!!! I loved it, it's rare to find a Swedish review on the same level as this one.

Nothing new in it and they say the exact things we will here all over again.

RS4 = Very stable car with immense grip, very safe in slippery conditions.

M3 = The car for those who want to have fun tailing and power sliding.

They also found it very amusing that the M3 is 5kg heavier then the RS4 which is a sedan and has AWD, despite the fact that the M3 uses a carbon fiber roof and has an engine 15kg lighter than the one in the RS4.

 

[chonkoa]

Awsome review!!! I loved it, it's rare to find a Swedish review on the same level as this one.

Nothing new in it and they say the exact things we will here all over again.

RS4 = Very stable car with immense grip, very safe in slippery conditions.

M3 = The car for those who want to have fun tailing and power sliding.

They also found it very amusing that the M3 is 5kg heavier then the RS4 which is a sedan and has AWD, despite the fact that the M3 uses a carbon fiber roof and has an engine 15kg lighter than the one in the RS4.

It is amusing because the M3 is lighter than the RS4.

 

[Zafiro]

Awsome review!!! I loved it, it's rare to find a Swedish review on the same level as this one.

Nothing new in it and they say the exact things we will here all over again.

RS4 = Very stable car with immense grip, very safe in slippery conditions.

M3 = The car for those who want to have fun tailing and power sliding.

They also found it very amusing that the M3 is 5kg heavier then the RS4 which is a sedan and has AWD, despite the fact that the M3 uses a carbon fiber roof and has an engine 15kg lighter than the one in the RS4.

carjournliasts do make mistakes. As explained before bmw /mb is measured according to EU standard while while Audi is using DIN standard.
EU standard include 68kg driver and luggage which DIN standard doesnt include.

 

[Centurion]

carjournliasts do make mistakes. As explained before bmw /mb is measured according to EU standard while while Audi is using DIN standard.
EU standard include 68kg driver and luggage which DIN standard doesnt include.

That's what I thought but was unsure. It's not the first time an auto magazine give false information.

 

[EnI]

Nothing new in it and they say the exact things we will here all over again.

RS4 = Very stable car with immense grip, very safe in slippery conditions.

M3 = The car for those who want to have fun tailing and power sliding.

This is exactly the main difference between Audi & BMW characters. Therefore a true cross-shopping is almost impossible - due so much different characters.

Audi = stability & calmness, videogame-like glued-to-the-road driving, perfect traction, all-roundness, maturity, restrained design.

BMW = raving & dynamism, engaging driving with sliding, great steering, emphasized sporty nature, playfulness, expressive design.

They also found it very amusing that the M3 is 5kg heavier then the RS4 which is a sedan and has AWD, despite the fact that the M3 uses a carbon fiber roof and has an engine 15kg lighter than the one in the RS4.

Just like Andreas said it. The guys in the video are talking about manufacturer figures, and it's a well known fact Audi state weight by DIN standard (w/o driver & cargo), while BMW state weight by EU standard (incl. 68kg driver, and 7kg cargo). Yet I guess not well known enough to reach those two Swedish lads.

 

[RICHBOY]

This is exactly the main difference between Audi & BMW characters. Therefore a true cross-shopping is almost impossible - due so much different characters.

Audi = stability & calmness, videogame-like glued-to-the-road driving, perfect traction, all-roundness, maturity, restrained design.

BMW = raving & dynamism, engaging driving with sliding, great steering, emphasized sporty nature, playfulness, expressive design.




Just like Andreas said it. The guys in the video are talking about manufacturer figures, and it's a well known fact Audi state weight by DIN standard (w/o driver & cargo), while BMW state weight by EU standard (incl. 68kg driver, and 7kg cargo). Yet I guess not well known enough to reach those two Swedish lads.

I believe you meant to put the "expressive design" along with the Audi characteristics!

 

[Centurion]

Since the cars have different characteristics they said that there's no clear winner.

 

[EnI]

I believe you meant to put the "expressive design" along with the Audi characteristics!

Not really.

I doubt Audi design can be labeled as expressive - especially when directly compared to contemporary BMW design.

Be sure the customers that went from BMW to Audi went there due too expressive BMW design, since they like more restrained one - and Audi is giving them what they wanted.

But when compared to some other brands / cars - then, yes, Audi can be sometimes associated with the word "expressive" when it comes to styling. Especially when it comes to the same latest models eg R8, A5.

 

[RICHBOY]

Not really.

I doubt Audi design can be labeled as expressive - especially when directly compared to contemporary BMW design.

Be sure the customers that went from BMW to Audi went there due too expressive BMW design, since they like more restrained one - and Audi is giving them what they wanted.

But when compared to some other brands / cars - then, yes, Audi can be sometimes associated with the word "expressive" when it comes to styling. Especially when it comes to the same latest models eg R8, A5.

Don't quote me on the exact statement, but when EVO took the E92 M3 and the RS4 about town they said the RS4 got most the attention.

 

[EnI]

Don't quote me on the exact statement, but when EVO took the E92 M3 and the RS4 about town they said the RS4 got most the attention.

That just means the certain people were more attracted to (and pay more attention to) RS4 than to M3, not that RS4 has more expressive design.
Even more - I'm sure they liked RS4 better since iits more restrained & coherent design. While M3 definitely looks more "visually challenging" - like any other BMW, and I'm aware quite some people have problem with such looks.

 

[Zafiro]

I just watched the clip and both drivers were mention how good the new M3 sounds and you get the impression they prefer the sound from M3 over the RS4.

Also the verdict was that the M3 is more fun to drive than the RS4. They basically ended the test by saying "If you want to laugh your mouth out every time you drive then your choice is the M3".

No comments on the steering feel.

 

[Centurion]

I just watched the clip and both drivers were mention how good the new M3 sounds and you get the impression they prefer the sound from M3 over the RS4.

Hmmm I wouldn't be so sure. They did express how much they love the sound of the RS4 as well.

 

[EnI]

Are you guys really from the same Sweden.

Because it doesn't seem so.

 

[Zafiro]

Hmmm I wouldn't be so sure. They did express how much they love the sound of the RS4 as well.

but they mentioned the M3 sound more than one time Seriosly though, thats the impression I got .

 

[RICHBOY]

Hmmm I wouldn't be so sure. They did express how much they love the sound of the RS4 as well.

You know how it goes, you take as you please and leave the sh!t at the door!!