M2 [Spyshots] BMW M2 (F22) Spy Pics & Info

[Z4ever]

Could the M division do it in a cost-effective way if so allowed?

No doubt whatsoever. Of that I'm sure!

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Could the M division do it in a cost-effective way if so allowed?

No doubt whatsoever. Of that I'm sure!

There are strong rumours that there will be a more extreme, limited production run of the M2 eventually anyway.

 

[Z4ever]

^ I say they would have problems selling M3/M4s.

That's an interesting question. The way I see it, a more drive focused M2 would appeal to an even more enthusiastic audience than the M3/M4 and therefore it would separate them further apart as two distinct propositions. There would be less overlap between the two.

The M3/M4 would still have the best traditional performance figures, of course, because it has to appeal to a more wealthy audience. A 1400 kg EU Coupe with 300 hp from a turbocharged 4-cylinder engine would never challenge the M3/M4 for sheer acceleration, which in turn could still justify its higher price tag that way and from the fact of being a more luxurious proposition.

I don't see the conflict.

 

[Z4ever]

There are strong rumours that there will be a more extreme, limited production run of the M2 eventually anyway.

This would be good news, of course, but I strong believe that the 6-cylinder engine should be reserved to the M3/M4 only, as a way of market segmentation also.

 

[Zafiro]

Intresting to read comparisons between M135i and A45 because the magazines rate the M135i engine higher than the one in A45.
M2 is going to have one strong selling point and its the 6-cylinder engine.

 

[martinbo]

I mean you just can't compare the overall driver satisfaction and enjoyment of a straight or flat six to an inline four. Fortunately BMW still mounts their canted-over engines way back in their RWD chassis so complaints of nose-heaviness are moot.

 

[martinbo]

@Z4ever - it appears to me that you either are oblivious to forum etiquette and staying on topic or you are intentionally disrespectful and choose to pollute threads with your unrelated opinions. Your previous Peugeot-centric post has been deleted. Persist further and you will be thread-banned from this one.

 

[Z4ever]

I'm not going to dispute your interpretation of what is and what is not relevant to the topic because that decision is entirely up to your own judgement. I genuinely thought that I was on topic talking about the 4-cyl. engine merits, in response to your observations on the same subject, by giving the example of what I consider to be the best option available today.

You compared the I6 and H6 engine merits and I was comparing the two best I4's for street use in production today with particular emphasis on the merits of one of them precisely because it is BMW related.

You realize that it's only a question of time until the H6 and I6 engines start to give place to the H4 and I4 engines respectively, don't you?!

The Cayman/Boxster will receive it starting next year and the M2 is most probably the last 6-cyl. small M Coupe from BMW. You realize that, don't you?!

The criteria upon which you judge the relevance and opportunity of my posts on this topic is the very same you can apply to BMW's engine strategy, and the automative industry for that matter, present and future. You realize that, don't you?!

I'm only a messenger. Anyway, the post you've just deleted took me a while to write, can you at least move it to the other thread where it may be considered more relevant by you, or is it gone forever?

 

[martinbo]

My good man... I do realise a great many things.

But, most importantly, what I do realise best is that you're p!ssing off a whole lot of very knowledgeable and informed members with your excruciatingly banal and oft erroneous statements.

I too am the messenger but then again it is my job here.

 

[warot]

There are strong rumours that there will be a more extreme, limited production run of the M2 eventually anyway.

It's all dandy until I thought of this yesterday: Should there be an M2 CSL/GTS, it'll most likely be DCT only. Unfortunately, that's a deal breaker for me. I'll take the "base" M2 just for the 6MT.

Personally, I'm still very skeptical but this more hardcore version, but I guess we shall see.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I've just realised I'm going to be in San Francsico at the same time as the Pebble Beach Concours D'Elegance. At $300 a ticket I think I will give it a miss though....

 

[martinbo]

I've just realised I'm going to be in San Francsico at the same time as the Pebble Beach Concours D'Elegance. At $300 a ticket I think I will give it a miss though....

Cheapskate.



Your thoughts on trading in the M135i for an M2?

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Cheapskate.



Your thoughts on trading in the M135i for an M2?

Hmmm, the M135i is one year old. I should really keep that for another year at least. It's a great car, but I always get restless after owning a car for 12 months. My plan is to get an LCI M4, but who knows once the M2 is launched. I may be swayed.....

 

[martinbo]

Hmmm, the M135i is one year old. I should really keep that for another year at least. It's a great car, but I always get restless after owning a car for 12 months. My plan is to get an LCI M4, but who knows once the M2 is launched. I may be swayed.....

Be swayed... be very swayed. Like a young sapling in a category five hurricane.

 

[Z4ever]

Choose the one with no adaptive suspension and be swayed!

 

[Mr Robert]

I mean you just can't compare the overall driver satisfaction and enjoyment of a straight or flat six to an inline four. Fortunately BMW still mounts their canted-over engines way back in their RWD chassis so complaints of nose-heaviness are moot.

 

[klier]

That nose is so light it wants to take off...

 

[Z4ever]

C'mon! That one doesn't count... he clearly is on a run, cause there's a big, fat guy dead in the trunk.

 

[Mr Robert]

C'mon! That one doesn't count... he clearly is on a run, cause there's a big, fat guy dead in the trunk.

That car has a EU weight of 1,100 kgs.

 

[Z4ever]

And the dead guy too!