A4/S4/RS4 [Spyshots] Audi RS4 Avant test mule makes spy photo debut
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JHF
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Yep, just like the RS6 Sedan as well!
Looking at this video of the RS4 Avant around the ring, i can observes some handling traits that will probably make this car less entertaining to drive than either M3/M4 and C63. The nose seems heavy and drift into understeer in some corners with noticeable body roll. Not alot of oversteer or rear wheel slip in sharp corners despite the rear suspension seeming to look soft with some body roll at the back. One good thing I noticed is that it has really good body control over the bumpy parts of the track, not alot of bounce on the suspension.
tristatez28lt1
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A couple new RS4 renders:
Rainer271
Kraftwagen König
Audi RS4, RS5 to use Panamera’s biturbo V6, 420-hp four-banger axed
Quattro's engineering boss, Stephan Reil, has shed some light about the upcoming high-performance models.
In an interview with Autoblog at the TT RS’ launch, the man in charge with engineering at Audi’s Quattro division reconfirmed the demise of the naturally-aspirated 4.2-liter V8 for next RS4 and RS5. Instead, the cars are going to downsize to a turbocharged V6, but it won’t be Audi’s new 3.0-liter from the latest S4 and S5 models.
The RS4 Avant, RS4 Sedan (yes, it’s coming back), RS5 Coupe, and RS5 Cabriolet will be motivated by the Panamera’s biturbo 2.9-liter V6 mostly developed by Porsche with some input from Audi. It’s also set to power the entry-level R8 due to arrive in United States in 2018 based on a leaked roadmap, following what will likely be a Euro launch in the second half of 2017.
Details about output have not been disclosed, but in the Panamera 4S the engine is good enough for 440 horsepower (324 kilowatts) at 5,650 rpm and 406 pound-feet (550 Newton-meters) of torque attainable from 1,750 rpm. It remains to be seen whether the future RS-badged cars from Audi will have the exact same output, or if the high-performance models will get a different tune of the engine.
And now for the bad news, Stephan Reil revealed development of the turbocharged 2.0-liter, four-cylinder engine with 420 horsepower has been terminated. Introduced back in 2014 with the spectacular TT Quattro Sport concept pictured above, the powered-up motor was rated at a fantastic 420 hp (309 kW) at 6,700 rpm and 331 lb-ft (450 Nm) from 2,400 rpm. One model that was supposed to get the beefy 2.0-liter was a production version of the VW Golf R400 concept, allegedly called “R420” to reflect the engine’s muscle.
While the engine itself will not find its way underneath the hood of a road-going car, the turbo 2.5-liter unit inside the 400-hp TT RS actually has more in common with the four-banger rather than its predecessor. Reil says only the bore and stroke are taken from the old five-cylinder engine, while a lot of the geometry is derived from the now defunct 420-hp four-cylinder motor.
Quattro’s development chief went on to specify the engineering and production costs of the four-cylinder engine would have been higher for Audi compared to the larger unit. In addition, Reil said at the end of the day that would still have been a four-cylinder unit, so it would have had a lower perceived value than the new 2.5-liter mill.
Source: Autoblog.com
Quattro's engineering boss, Stephan Reil, has shed some light about the upcoming high-performance models.
In an interview with Autoblog at the TT RS’ launch, the man in charge with engineering at Audi’s Quattro division reconfirmed the demise of the naturally-aspirated 4.2-liter V8 for next RS4 and RS5. Instead, the cars are going to downsize to a turbocharged V6, but it won’t be Audi’s new 3.0-liter from the latest S4 and S5 models.
The RS4 Avant, RS4 Sedan (yes, it’s coming back), RS5 Coupe, and RS5 Cabriolet will be motivated by the Panamera’s biturbo 2.9-liter V6 mostly developed by Porsche with some input from Audi. It’s also set to power the entry-level R8 due to arrive in United States in 2018 based on a leaked roadmap, following what will likely be a Euro launch in the second half of 2017.
Details about output have not been disclosed, but in the Panamera 4S the engine is good enough for 440 horsepower (324 kilowatts) at 5,650 rpm and 406 pound-feet (550 Newton-meters) of torque attainable from 1,750 rpm. It remains to be seen whether the future RS-badged cars from Audi will have the exact same output, or if the high-performance models will get a different tune of the engine.
And now for the bad news, Stephan Reil revealed development of the turbocharged 2.0-liter, four-cylinder engine with 420 horsepower has been terminated. Introduced back in 2014 with the spectacular TT Quattro Sport concept pictured above, the powered-up motor was rated at a fantastic 420 hp (309 kW) at 6,700 rpm and 331 lb-ft (450 Nm) from 2,400 rpm. One model that was supposed to get the beefy 2.0-liter was a production version of the VW Golf R400 concept, allegedly called “R420” to reflect the engine’s muscle.
While the engine itself will not find its way underneath the hood of a road-going car, the turbo 2.5-liter unit inside the 400-hp TT RS actually has more in common with the four-banger rather than its predecessor. Reil says only the bore and stroke are taken from the old five-cylinder engine, while a lot of the geometry is derived from the now defunct 420-hp four-cylinder motor.
Quattro’s development chief went on to specify the engineering and production costs of the four-cylinder engine would have been higher for Audi compared to the larger unit. In addition, Reil said at the end of the day that would still have been a four-cylinder unit, so it would have had a lower perceived value than the new 2.5-liter mill.
Source: Autoblog.com
klier
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"Let's say Porsche made the engine, that sounds good for the general public!"
A Porsche V6?? LOL please.
I wonder how many components are shared between the two V6 engines.
tristatez28lt1
Tire Trailblazer
Probably a lot. As far as I know, Porsche is in charge to develop all gasoline engines that are of flat, V6, and V8 configuration.
tristatez28lt1
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http://www.motor1.com/news/133393/audi-rs4-avant-specs-leaked/
The RS trio will be more powerful than the Porsche Panamera 4S from where it will inherit the engine.
A Motor1 reader has sent us an image, which we’re not allowed to use, with a slideshow from a dealer presentation in Norway concerning three upcoming RS models from Audi Sport: RS4 Avant, RS5 Coupe, and RS5 Sportback. The fact that the first two will share a biturbo 2.9-liter TFSI V6 engine from the new Porsche Panamera 4S is not exactly news taking into account Stephan Reil, engineering boss of Audi's Quattro GmbH division, revealed the important information back in September last year. What he didn’t tell us is the two will have more power and will be joined by an RS5 Sportback.
Indeed, the Panamera 4S has 440 horsepower (324 kilowatts) and 406 pound-feet (550 Newton-meters) of torque on tap, while the new RS models will have 450 hp (335 kW) and 442 lb-ft (600 Nm). That’s going to be enough Porsche power to enable the hot Audis sprint to 62 mph (100 kph) in less than four seconds and top out at an electronically capped 155 mph (250 kph), according to the slideshow. Buyers willing to spend more to reach higher velocities will be able to ask Audi to loosen up the limiter and allow the RS models reach 174 mph (280 kph) via the optional dynamic package.
The dealer also spilled the beans regarding when the cars are going to hit the assembly line. The RS4 Avant’s start of production according to the slideshow will be in December 2017, while next to the RS5 Coupe was written June 2017. According to our reader who was at the presentation, the RS5 Coupe is production-ready while the RS4 Avant is currently in the last stage of development. As for the RS5 Sportback, it’s not clear from the photo when it’s due to enter production, but it will arrive after the other two.
Based on the production dates we have, the RS5 Coupe could be unveiled in March at the Geneva Motor Show whereas the RS4 Avant might debut in September in Frankfurt.
The RS trio will be more powerful than the Porsche Panamera 4S from where it will inherit the engine.
A Motor1 reader has sent us an image, which we’re not allowed to use, with a slideshow from a dealer presentation in Norway concerning three upcoming RS models from Audi Sport: RS4 Avant, RS5 Coupe, and RS5 Sportback. The fact that the first two will share a biturbo 2.9-liter TFSI V6 engine from the new Porsche Panamera 4S is not exactly news taking into account Stephan Reil, engineering boss of Audi's Quattro GmbH division, revealed the important information back in September last year. What he didn’t tell us is the two will have more power and will be joined by an RS5 Sportback.
Indeed, the Panamera 4S has 440 horsepower (324 kilowatts) and 406 pound-feet (550 Newton-meters) of torque on tap, while the new RS models will have 450 hp (335 kW) and 442 lb-ft (600 Nm). That’s going to be enough Porsche power to enable the hot Audis sprint to 62 mph (100 kph) in less than four seconds and top out at an electronically capped 155 mph (250 kph), according to the slideshow. Buyers willing to spend more to reach higher velocities will be able to ask Audi to loosen up the limiter and allow the RS models reach 174 mph (280 kph) via the optional dynamic package.
The dealer also spilled the beans regarding when the cars are going to hit the assembly line. The RS4 Avant’s start of production according to the slideshow will be in December 2017, while next to the RS5 Coupe was written June 2017. According to our reader who was at the presentation, the RS5 Coupe is production-ready while the RS4 Avant is currently in the last stage of development. As for the RS5 Sportback, it’s not clear from the photo when it’s due to enter production, but it will arrive after the other two.
Based on the production dates we have, the RS5 Coupe could be unveiled in March at the Geneva Motor Show whereas the RS4 Avant might debut in September in Frankfurt.
JLBM
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Sounds better than a BMW/Toyota sports car to me....
tristatez28lt1
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hovabongZA
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I hope they will also make an RS4 sedan for this generation. The last one they made is a classic and the vehicle that made me take notice of Audi.
Rainer271
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