4 Series (F32) [Spy Shots] The BMW 4 series GranCoupe is spied cold-weather-testing in Sweden

[bimmerjph]

American cars don't exist either over here. You're quite right! We're pretty damn racist over here regarding cars

I thought Ford did decently in Europe? Or are you talking purely about premium cars with that statement?

 

[klier]

Ford Europe is doing ok I guess. But then again, Ford Europe is purely focussed on the EU with models they only sell in the EU. That's why they sell cars.

 

[Foxfire]

Yeah, I think the next gen Mustang will be their only truly global car?

 

[mini_cooper4]

Really? Foreign cars, both European and Asian cars do better here than foreign (American or Asian) cars do in Europe. Yes, we might have our idiosyncrasies about some types of cars, but Americans have way more eclectic taste in cars than Europeans.

Of course you'll buy more EU cars than we'll ever buy US cars.
US cars aren't suited for us. We are also known to build the best cars in the world so it's understandable that we'll mostly buy our cars and the reason why you buy our cars... why Chinese buy our cars and so on
It's the same reason why Europeans buy iPhone and Galaxy S instead of Nokia

 

[chonkoa]

It's actually the other way around. Americans hunting the rest of the world population.

Really.

Usually the Americans proclaim anything that's not to US taste "stupid", "unattractive", "pointless" etc ... Forgetting the today's world is heavily globalized & that many products are not US-centric anymore. Some are also targeting Europe etc, while more & more of them are now tailored to suit the (East) Asians - especially to Chinese market.

I wonder if you can provide a citation to Americans proclaiming what you wrote.

If US market was the sole merit carmakers would only produce pickups, full size SUVs, large sedans, family vans, muscle cars & posh cabrios.

I believe you an intelligent person;you do understand the problems with gross generalisation.
To each their own.

PS: I don't really understand what the problem with the liftback / 5th door is. If the car has an overall attractive shape, liftback should not be a problem. Look at Tesla S, Panamera, A7 - all liftbacks & selling well in US.

To each their own

 

[chonkoa]

Why?

Just checking because it did seem that way.

I just wonder what you guys have against a 5th door??

We have nothing against it, some people like it and some prefer something else.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Really.


I wonder if you can provide a citation to Americans proclaiming what you wrote.



I believe you an intelligent person;you do understand the problems with gross generalisation.
To each their own.




To each their own

Just for your info, not all Europeans have the same views as ENI.

 

[Rainer271]

A Motor-Talk-member said the 4 GC will get definitive a tailgaite. A friend of this member is working with BMW and was at the internal presentation.

 

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[Rainer271]

A Motor-Talk-Member wrote the introduction date will be June 21st, 2014. That´s a dealers statement.

 

[LaArtist]

wtf is that? is that a hatchback like the GT cars..but in a gran coupe style?

Something like the A5 sportback thingy?

 

[Deckhook]

Its hard to tell with all the camo but doesn't appear to have the elegant lines that makes the regular 4 series so appealing.

I use to feel the same way about the A5SB but now I reckon its better than the coupe, can't imagine saying the same thing here though.

 

[Rainer271]

BMW 4er Gran Coupé: Neue Fotos und Erlkönig-Video vom Nürburgring

 

[wac77]

New Auto Bild pictures

 

[Merc1]

Only a few people on earth know what this clown car is for. Looks like a 3-Series hatchback, oh wait......its a 4-Series.

M

 

[LaArtist]

Why would one ruin a good design like that?

 

[SKY]

Can´t stand why they haven´t gone the 6er GC route, which looks fantastic. This just looks worse than the 6er GC, 4er, and 3er.

 

[Rainer271]

This are only photoshops but in the past Autobild was often very close to the real deal. We should wait till we see this car in real life. But I fear that some people will be disappointed.

 

[wac77]

Count me in the dissapointed column. It may look better in real life, but likely not good enough. If 4 --> 4 GC was anything like 6 --> 6 GC, I would have been the first one to sign up. As it seems to be shaping up, no way. I'd go for another 5 instead.

 

[Rainer271]

After the 6GC the expectations were and are very high.