Panamera [Spy shots] Porsche Panamera 2021 Facelift

[CrunchSlaughtered]

We are actually witnessing some clues that may support your argument. Quite recently, Audi spokes...

ETron GT is a masterpiece, but why should Porsche allow the use of its platform with a better design than the Taycan?

 

[Deleted member 1071]

ETron GT is a masterpiece, but why should Porsche allow the use of its platform with...

That's a good question.

I can only surmise that this may have been a consideration on Porsches' part that (allegedly) led to a decision to "limit" the use of its' "J1" BEV platform to the Taycan (and derivatives) and the Audi eTron GT. All further BEV offerings by both Porsche and Audi will reportedly be based on the jointly developed PPE/SPE platforms alone. And although we have recently seen spyshots of slightly veiled production eTron GTs' winter-testing in Sweden, I am beginning to wonder (actually "fear") whether the eTron GT will actually make it to market in these COVID-19 dominated times and the economic aftermath. Am I sensing some sort of "BMW Concept CS" deja vu ?? That would break the "automobile loving" part of my heart.

 

[Evgeny]

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Any update when this is going to debut?

 

[Centurion]

The changes look minimal. I spy an updated front bumper design and headlight graphics.

 

[Rolf]

I suppose Porsche will introduce mild hybrid tech on this FL. Maybe not that many styling changes.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

I suppose Porsche will introduce mild hybrid tech on this F...

Yes, but Porsche can not f#ck the system continuously. They are going to pay the price for this.

 

[LaArtist]

Yes, but Porsche can not f#ck the system conti...

Pay for What ?

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Pay for What ?

For the upsizing

 

[AndreB]

Does anybody know when the facelift will be released?

I think of getting the Panamera Turbo and pre-fl cars might see a consistent drop in price.

 

[LaArtist]

Does anybody know when the facelift will be released?

I...

Before year end

 

[Evgeny]

 

[Yaz]

There's not much to be done here.

 

[LaArtist]

Nope it is pretty damn stunning to start with.

 

[275others]

Looks just like the macan's back, not too sure about that.

 

[AndreB]

I expected to see slimmer rear lights.

 

[Merc1]

Car and Driver just drove a facelift prototype:

The changes to the Panamera's powertrain are more significant than the cosmetic and interior tweaks. The entry-level 3.0-liter V-6 makes way for a 2.9-liter V-6, rated at the same 330 horsepower. It is closely related to the engine in the Panamera 4S, which retains the same displacement but could receive a power boost to 450 horsepower. Above that, there's the Panamera GTS with a detuned version of the Panamera Turbo's 4.0-liter V-8. The GTS receives a power boost from 453 to 473 horsepower.

Meanwhile, the Panamera Turbo, previously rated at 550 horsepower, disappears to make way for the enthusiast's ultimate Panamera: the Turbo S, which packs a lofty 620 horsepower. This move required a number of changes to the engine's inner workings. The pistons and crankshaft are upgraded to withstand the boost from larger turbochargers, and new injectors deliver more fuel. Even the spark plugs are unique. It's a considerable investment that delivers significantly improved performance.

And then there's the expanded hybrid lineup, which includes a new mid-level version, the Panamera 4S E-Hybrid. That car slots between the entry-level Panamera 4 Hybrid and the Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid. All of them receive a 17.9-kWh battery in place of the old 14.1-kWh pack, leading to about 30 percent more fully electric range (which should in turn bump the EPA-rated electric range to 18 miles). The two lesser models are based on the 2.9-liter V-6, while the Turbo S E-Hybrid continues to be based on the 4.0-liter V-8.

The entry-level hybrid will remain close to its current 462 horsepower output, and the new Panamera 4S E-Hybrid will be rated at 552 horsepower. The Turbo S E-Hybrid gets an upgrade from the previous 680 horsepower and will now crack the 700-horsepower barrier, although Porsche hasn't yet finalized the exact output. However, unlike on the non-hybrid Turbo S, its V-8 remains largely unchanged. So, we think the enthusiast's choice is clear: Give us the Turbo S, without the heavy hybrid technology.

Turbo S for me, hold the hybrid nonsense please.


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[SKY]

Isn't that Panny Turbo SE a bit short of power compared to the GT 73 AMG?

 

[275others]

Isn't that Panny Turbo SE a bit short of power compared to t...

The “Lion” version is probably going to be the competitor to the GT 73 AMG I’m guessing.

Hot Porsche Panamera ‘Lion’ May Have Just Set A Nürburgring Lap Record

 

[275others]

Prototypes testing.