X5 [Spy Shots] Next Gen BMW X5 (G65) and iX5 - coming in 2027?

[leylandi]

It's nice, but it looks too much like the ix3. I think this will be the biggest problem with the new BMWs.

 

[Gor134]

Coincidentally the new X5, X7, Q7, and Q9 are all debuting with the window trim-mounted electronic door handles. Do they share the same supplier for this part/mechanism or something, that they're both switching to this design?

 

[Design FIRST]

Oooohh that’s gonna be a looker.

M

Yes-BMW design teams appear to be on quite a roll once again. Thank goodness !

Great to see it following a period of some arguably questionable design exercises.

 

[Uygar]

Sooo handsome.

What a thing!

 

[McLaren64TR]

Extraordinary

 

[leylandi]

just boring.

 

[Serpens]

Coincidentally the new X5, X7, Q7, and Q9 are all debuting with the window trim-mounted electronic door handles. Do they share the same supplier for this part/mechanism or something, that they're both switching to this design?

Funny. Lincoln has been using them for a long time now, albeit more discreetly.

 

[Uygar]

just boring.

What’s boring about a good looking vehicle with a fresh design language?

 

[McLaren64TR]

What’s boring about a good looking vehicle with a fresh design language?

Hidden door handles were used in Range Rover models before Mercedes, and Leylandi praised the hidden door handles of the W223 S Class. Now, they have moved on to the defense that other manufacturers used BMW and Audi's new door handles before. Hypocrisy once again for Mercedes fans.

 

[klier]

What’s boring about a good looking vehicle with a fresh design language?

He doesn't even speak English. It's all ChatGPT if it's more than three words.

Hypocrisy once again for Mercedes fans.

To be fair to MB fans, it's just this baby child here.

 

[Design FIRST]

just boring.

Anything but IMHO.

BMW seems to have found a compelling design recipe blending futuristic elements combined with a good dose of monolithic minimalism that is actually accentuated by some strategically placed adventurous surface sculpturing. All articulated on the canvas of a more traditionally proportioned, typically BMW exterior silhouette. Like the new NKL ix3, this looks like a real winner to me.

Just my take, but the accusation of being "boring" would more appropriately apply to the vehicles such as the Audi Q6 etron or the M-B GLC EQ. Not that they are "ugly" per se, of course. But the major exterior "design highlight" of the GLC EQ is it's afterthought of a faux-radiator grill shield. Not the most favourable of credentials. And the Q6 etron is simply...well...too safe, too "been there, done that" and hence...actually..."boring".

 

[McLaren64TR]

He doesn't even speak English. It's all ChatGPT if it's more than three words.



To be fair to MB fans, it's just this baby child here.

I agree. It wouldn't be right to refer to the majority.

 

[leylandi]

Once you get used to the ix3, these designs will start to seem boring. Because they will be repetitive (what happened to Mercedes). The new x1 and x5 will be the small and big ix3.

 

[leylandi]

What’s boring about a good looking vehicle with a fresh design language?

I'm not talking about Mercedes getting boring because they keep making the same bumpers. I'm talking about the repetition of the entire pattern. I'm sure that's boring for you too.

 

[Uygar]

I'm not talking about Mercedes getting boring because they keep making the same bumpers. I'm talking about the repetition of the entire pattern. I'm sure that's boring for you too.

We can’t really say NK models are repetitive, at least at this moment, because we have only seen one model. All these renders are using iX3’s bumpers and graphics. We’ll see how different or same they will look once the camouflage is off.
I bet they will find the middle ground with their designs. People criticized them for making every model look totally different, told that BMW had no brand identity, now it’s the exact opposite. Weird times.
Personally I have always loved their model specific design approaches, but I’m pretty sure they will do the same with the NK models, probably less dramatic though.

 

[leylandi]

We can’t really say NK models are repetitive, at least at this moment, because we have only seen one model. All these renders are using iX3’s bumpers and graphics. We’ll see how different or same they will look once the camouflage is off.
I bet they will find the middle ground with their designs. People criticized them for making every model look totally different, told that BMW had no brand identity, now it’s the exact opposite. Weird times.
Personally I have always loved their model specific design approaches, but I’m pretty sure they will do the same with the NK models, probably less dramatic though.

I don't mind them repeating the same philosophy. I've said it many times before: I prefer a simple yet stylish design to one that looks different and ugly. Actually, I was trying to explain the hypocritical perspective of BMW fans here. They're so eager to interpret the positive side of BMW, no matter what direction it takes. They applauded BMW when it followed a different and bold design philosophy with every model. Now, they've shifted to a conservative and timid philosophy. And they're applauding again! I think the reason for the applause is the end of the horribly proportioned car generation that began with the iX and the redesign of stylish and characterful cars. The iX3 isn't a revolutionary design in the automotive industry. There are similar models in the industry. But the fact that it revolutionized the BMW brand has made it important. People no longer have to impose designs they dislike on themselves or others. The discussions about the 5, 7, and XM on this forum are examples. Everyone loved the iX3 and will love the cars that follow.

 

[McLaren64TR]

BMW's design chief stated a few months ago that the models will differentiate from each other in terms of design. Of course, even though the design language is Neue Klasse, there will be differences in the details, which will ensure that the models stand out from one another.

Since only one Neue Klasse model has been introduced so far, the claims that all models will look alike have no validity.

 

[klier]

I don't mind them repeating the same philosophy. I've said it many times before: I prefer a simple yet stylish design to one that looks different and ugly. Actually, I was trying to explain the hypocritical perspective of BMW fans here. They're so eager to interpret the positive side of BMW, no matter what direction it takes. They applauded BMW when it followed a different and bold design philosophy with every model. Now, they've shifted to a conservative and timid philosophy. And they're applauding again! I think the reason for the applause is the end of the horribly proportioned car generation that began with the iX and the redesign of stylish and characterful cars. The iX3 isn't a revolutionary design in the automotive industry. There are similar models in the industry. But the fact that it revolutionized the BMW brand has made it important. People no longer have to impose designs they dislike on themselves or others. The discussions about the 5, 7, and XM on this forum are examples. Everyone loved the iX3 and will love the cars that follow.

Ok ChatGPT.
If you say so.

 

[Uygar]

I don't mind them repeating the same philosophy. I've said it many times before: I prefer a simple yet stylish design to one that looks different and ugly. Actually, I was trying to explain the hypocritical perspective of BMW fans here. They're so eager to interpret the positive side of BMW, no matter what direction it takes. They applauded BMW when it followed a different and bold design philosophy with every model. Now, they've shifted to a conservative and timid philosophy. And they're applauding again! I think the reason for the applause is the end of the horribly proportioned car generation that began with the iX and the redesign of stylish and characterful cars. The iX3 isn't a revolutionary design in the automotive industry. There are similar models in the industry. But the fact that it revolutionized the BMW brand has made it important. People no longer have to impose designs they dislike on themselves or others. The discussions about the 5, 7, and XM on this forum are examples. Everyone loved the iX3 and will love the cars that follow.

I don’t agree with the “people no longer have to impose designs they dislike on themselves or others” statement. Design is totally subjective, so it’s only natural for people to like, or prefer, models that might be “ugly” to some people, because it simply fits their aesthetic. To give a simple example, the reason we got an i5 was not solely based on my BMW biased opinions ( since I’m the only one in my family that is enthusiastic about cars ), but rather based on how good it was as a whole package, and how appealing it looked to us. It’s simply preferences. I’m pretty sure most of the people that favor BMW do actually like those “ugly” models, and not force themselves to like something that they don’t actually care about.

 

[Esp5]

BMW's design chief stated a few months ago that the models will differentiate from each other in terms of design. Of course, even though the design language is Neue Klasse, there will be differences in the details, which will ensure that the models stand out from one another.

Since only one Neue Klasse model has been introduced so far, the claims that all models will look alike have no validity.

That's right. If we post comparison photos of the previous generation X1, X3, and the soon-to-be-discontinued current X5—all contemporaries—it's the same case. They shared the main design elements and a family resemblance, despite being completely different, as has always been the case (also with their predecessors).

This is just about imposing a completely wrong narrative or personal perception just to have something negative to say.